bn880 5 Posted June 14, 2004 Nah the world isn't going to end even if they fight naked. Odd, I guess what it does is it makes shape recognition difficult (that camo), but only at certain distances, so hmm... then you see this grey dude. Actually the colour blue is not processed as well by our brains as all the other colours we normally see, perhaps because for "ever" we have had this blue sky (with coulds... IE the pattern) hanging over our heads which should be ignored most of the time. Not much else, other than water is blue in our lives... mumble mumble... . . bye EDIT: blue; it's there and you can't do nothing about it, might as well ignore it sucks when it's shooting at you eh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted June 15, 2004 Nah the world isn't going to end even if they fight naked. Odd, I guess what it does is it makes shape recognition difficult (that camo), but only at certain distances, so hmm... then you see this grey dude. Actually the colour blue is not processed as well by our brains as all the other colours we normally see, perhaps because for "ever" we have had this blue sky (with coulds... IE the pattern) hanging over our heads which should be ignored most of the time. Not much else, other than water is blue in our lives... mumble mumble... Curacao blue ... hmmm Methylen blue ? I'm blue dabadidabady I'm blue dobadidobady .... erm .... It reminds me of one of my nephews' pajamas, blue with white clouds ..... My guess is that they just blended all of the three marpat patterns, stonewashed it a few times and got this insipid blueish shit not even dign of the smurfs.... as you could have already guessed, i'm a bit sceptical, I want to see this thing in use so I can judge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted June 15, 2004 Personally I'd have to do a Pink Panther, have some people hide in these unis as I walk in a forest or urban environment and see if I could easily spot them. It's hard to say from just a silly pic. Something tells me this is not picked at random, but based on extensive research. Or not, in which case: smurfs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordy 0 Posted June 15, 2004 Personally I'd have to do a Pink Panther, have some people hide in these unis as I walk in a forest or urban environment and see if I could easily spot them. Â It's hard to say from just a silly pic. Â Â Something tells me this is not picked at random, but based on extensive research.Or not, in which case: smurfs! Â I agree. Personally, I'd like to do that research for a portion of what they got: x,000'000'000,00 $ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfbane 0 Posted June 15, 2004 Ehrm.. what the hell is that.. a pyjamas? Nah, nothing beats the swedish uniform with its nice camo pattern and rock solid quality Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted June 15, 2004 Quote[/b] ]There were 20 changes made to the uniform, to include removing the color black and adapting the digital print from the Marine Corps uniform to meet the needs of the Army, said Sgt. 1st Class Jeff Myhre, the Clothing and Individual Equipment noncommissioned officer in charge. lol...as if some higher ranking officer isn't gonna pull rank on recievership of their new uniform... "Damn you boy, I ain't no space cadet, and neither is my unit...." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucretius 0 Posted June 15, 2004 not going to make much difference they are still going to fight from inside APC's and aircraft... A terrorist is not even going to get a shot off at a live soldier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skewballzz 0 Posted June 15, 2004 Im not sure if they are using 3 different patterns, or if that one in those past two pics are a genaric one. Im pretty sure the one they are showing is the urban one. I cant see how the army could be THAT dumb. Can someone please tell me if that one if for all areas, or if everyone is assuming that pattern is for everything. Its gotta be the urban one. Id like to see the woodland and desert one though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redliner47 0 Posted June 15, 2004 hey, tell that to an infantryman or marine, Ill bring a video camera to watch the aftermath Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted June 15, 2004 @ June 14 2004,23:40)]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040614/capt.wx10506142020.army_new_uniform_wx105.jpgAww, I think he's adorable. get the finger off the trigger. get the finger off the damn trigger. get the damn finger off the damn trigger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redliner47 0 Posted June 15, 2004 It seems that this uniform does a very good job at breaking up the visual stuff. Im pretty sure this will replace all camouflages currently fielded by the US Army. They made this to be a compromise between all three and it cant be perfect in all respects Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rishon 0 Posted June 15, 2004 This is the Army we are talking about, The Stryker, Cancelling 10 top of the line projects for it. This is just another step in the road. I wonder WHAT the hell they are thinking.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted June 15, 2004 @ June 14 2004,23:40)]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040614/capt.wx10506142020.army_new_uniform_wx105.jpgAww, I think he's adorable. get the finger off the trigger. get the finger off the damn trigger. get the damn finger off the damn trigger. Don't break his concentration, he's fighting communsim. edit: terrorism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redliner47 0 Posted June 15, 2004 Quote[/b] ]This is the Army we are talking about, The Stryker, Cancelling 10 top of the line projects for it. This is just another step in the road. I wonder WHAT the hell they are thinking.... I believe they are thinking that warfare is changing, we need a more mobile force that can adapt quickly. Although the stryker has flaws, they will be worked out eventually. The uniforms are also made to adapt A possible scenario would be if you were moving from rocky, desert like terrain, to forested terrain. This universal pattern will not match in perfectly to both ends of the spectrum but will blend in enough to be effective edit: If you are referring to the Commanche as one of the top of the line projects, know that the need for recon helos has gone down due to the widespread use of UAV's and other electronic surveillance methods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DracoPaladore 0 Posted June 15, 2004 edit: If you are referring to the Commanche as one of the top of the line projects, know that the need for recon helos has gone down due to the widespread use of UAV's and other electronic surveillance methods. My few thousand dollar radar system just picked up a convoy your several million dollar helicopter risked itself to find. I'm guessing they realized that the task the Commanche was being made for could be done by cheaper and less costly methods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redliner47 0 Posted June 15, 2004 Quote[/b] ]My few thousand dollar radar system just picked up a convoy your several million dollar helicopter risked itself to find. I'm guessing they realized that the task the Commanche was being made for could be done by cheaper and less costly methods. Exactly my point. Even though the Military has vast, unimaginable wealth, cuts need to be made. In the eyes of the strategists and planners, the stryker was best suited for the army's role, as is the new ACU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redliner47 0 Posted June 15, 2004 They are going to use different shades of color but the same pattern This one looks alot better Darker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stgn 39 Posted June 15, 2004 They are going to use different shades of color but the same patternThis one looks alot better  Darker http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2001956139.jpg edit: please do not quote images. No it dosent he is just not satnding in the light. And how is it better to have a cammo that dosent fit in eny place than one for each one. STGN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UsMarine408 0 Posted June 15, 2004 If you connected the blouse and the pants it would just be one big shitty flight suit lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redliner47 0 Posted June 15, 2004 I actually have seen some photos of them testing the pattern against various environments, its actually quite surprising how well they work. They arent perfect but they do blend in well enough. Ill post them here as soon as i can find or upload them. STGN, look at the scenario i posted earlier. you will be able to move from terrain to a different type of terrain and be able to blend in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gollum1 0 Posted June 15, 2004 You've all got it wrong, the camo in the pics posted so far is obviously the URBAN camo. The new camos are woodland, desert and urban. An urban pattern hasn't existed before. The pic above shows the woodland camo, I'll see if I can find another pic somewhere... Having different camos for different branches is foolishness, I say MARPAT for all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redliner47 0 Posted June 15, 2004 no no no, Gollum, this pattern will replace the desert and woodland variants of the US camouflage but they added the lighter colors in so it will blend in to urban settings as well. Quote[/b] ]The uniform is being produced in a single, universal pattern to replace the two camouflage versions in current use: tan-brown for desert use and green-brown-black for woodland settings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gollum1 0 Posted June 15, 2004 no no no, Gollum, this pattern will replace the desert and woodland variants of the US camouflage but they added the lighter colors in so it will blend in to urban settings as well.Quote[/b] ]The uniform is being produced in a single, universal pattern to replace the two camouflage versions in current use: tan-brown for desert use and green-brown-black for woodland settings. From the Army website: There are three different versions of the ACU. Urban Woodland No pics of Desert as of yet...Desert Marpat rules... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redliner47 0 Posted June 15, 2004 can you give me a link to that article please? from what i read they are replacing desert and woodland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
