Soviet era soldiers

[noundo 0]

I'm confused by the several Russian/Soviet soldier addons. What addon would I need to get to have Soviet soldiers from the 1985 era that meet todays addon standards?

[Lt_Phoenix 0]

There doesn't seem to be any good Sovjet-era troops at the time being.

I must say I hope some addonmakers will rise to the challenge.

[Bobcatt666 0]

I got some in the works, for Afganistan war era units. Flora pattarn units are correct even if not highly issued for regular motorized rifle units. So are the BIS units for naval inf and Spez Naz. The cover over cammo was in use from the 70 to the mid of the Afganistan war to cover over the beight uniforms commonly issued till flora was about in greater numbers.

[Messiah 2]

There doesn't seem to be any good Sovjet-era troops at the time being.

I must say I hope some addonmakers will rise to the challenge.  

true... but the marine assult pack has some amazing russian naval infantry units and spetz natz... check them out

[noundo 0]

....true... but the marine assult pack has some amazing russian naval infantry units and spetz natz... check them out

Aren't these modern (21st century) Russian troops?

[bmgarcangel 0]

Just wait for the RHS troops to come out. I keep coming on everyday like on ofp.info and I expect them to be there. Perhaps it will be tormorrow!

[The Frenchman 0]

If I remember correctly, the BIS Russians are supposed to be Soviet Airborne troops(by their camo.) But I heard from someone(forget the name of the guy) that the camo is outdated.

[badlymad 0]

I think the pattern the BIS soviet troops wear is that one piece KLMK camo. It'd be nice to have a regular soviet soldier pack with normal non-camo wearing troops though.

[Shadow NX 1]

Just wait for the RHS troops to come out.  I keep coming on everyday like on ofp.info and I expect them to be there.  Perhaps it will be tormorrow!

But those arent the soviet era troops he looks for

[raedor 8]

Just wait for the RHS troops to come out. I keep coming on everyday like on ofp.info and I expect them to be there. Perhaps it will be tormorrow!

But those arent the soviet era troops he looks for

and i'm sure they're not gonna be released tomorrow.

[Shadow NX 1]

True...

[red oct 2]

doesn't the russian army today use most of the equipment and camo from the soviet era? i probaly doubt that the RHS team needs any help in finding idea's for there work, but if you guys could include any of the following i would be very very very grateful

[Veovis 0]

OK. Some info, feel free to correct me. The BIS units are actually using a sniper one piece suit that goes over a BDU, so it is somewhat innacurate. The Flora pattern started being issued in 1998, so Suchey's units are not right for the 80s either. Early 90s up until Flora was VSR camo, as seen on a few units, such as the RHS tank crew. SpetzNaz are issued Flora, but discard it and buy other BDUs, such as M1s and M21s, with their own money. These come in patterns such as kamysh (Suchey's Spetz Naz) tigerstripe, and others. That is all modern stuff. Basically, the 1980s was a complete mess as far as the Soviet BDUs go. There are a lot of different patterns, and since none of them are produced any more, I don't know much about them. Most 'Soviet' addons you see, like RHS, are using actually using a VSR pattern as far as I can tell, so they are actually 90's troops.

[bmgarcangel 0]

So then.....what are we going to do about this little mess? Just use Modern day russian troops or BIS looking crappy soviet era soldiers?

[jotte 0]

Veovis, the coverall used by the bis troops was issued to all kinds of troops. It appeared sometime during the mid-late 70's. It's not a sniper suite but a camo coverall to go over regular uniform.

[Shadow NX 1]

doesn't the russian army today use most of the equipment and camo from the soviet era? i probaly doubt that the RHS team needs any help in finding idea's for there work, but if you guys could include any of the following i would be very very very grateful  

Thx, but i got all these pics and a ton more ( i collect every lil thing i can find about russian and soviet gear, currently my pic folder is over 700MB )

The problem is not a lack of ideas it is a lack of time and manpower.

[Beagle 684]

I've seen USSR Soldiers with camo pattern similar to US Woodland, just darker with more green and brown, in the last days of the GDR (german democratic republic)...1989...

[nyles 11]

I've done my own little research about this a while ago and my conclusion was the following:

The Soviet soldiers in OFP are using an oversuit called KLMK:

It is a one part costume, which was mainly issued for Spetznaz, snipers and VDV troops to be worn over the monotone Soviet uniforms that were issued 'til the mid eighties. While the OFP Spetznaz are wearing just the suit, the regular OFP Soviet grunts are additionally wearing the KZS oversuit:

It has the same camouflage as the KLMK but features a different coloration for the leaf pattern. During the eighties, more and more units adopted this type of camouflage when the Warsaw Pact realized the return of camouflaged uniforms that were rarely seen since WW2. It was the same time the USA introduced the woodland pattern uniforms over their Vietnam era green monocolour uniforms.

From this image made by BIS, it can be seen that they too researched this as it shows a BIS employee wearing said clothing:

However, it is unclear to what military branch the Russians in OFP belong. From the black berets of the officers, one could assume they are Naval Infantry, as VDV would have blue ones. I take it that they were meant to be generic Soviet forces and were not meant to belong to any specific branch, though.

In the mid- to late eighties, the Soviets introduced a new BDU with camouflage pattern, thus making the KLMK and KZS obsolete. They might still have remained in use though amongst some units as can be seen from this present-day Ukranian border guard:

Information about this successor BDU to the Afghan War era monotone uniforms is hard to get, but I assume that it had this camouflage pattern:

Hard to say, but there might have been variations in the exact coloration. This might be the uniform, Beagle has seen before the GDR was disbanded.

The last image I uploaded shows a number of Soviet soldiers during the mid eighties in Afghanistan: (Link)

Starting from left to right, you can see a Russian soldier, most likely paratrooper or spetznaz, due to the special forces t-shirt, who has a old Soviet mono-colour uniform. The next soldier seems to be a paratrooper or spetznaz as well, however he features the new BDU with new Soviet Woodland pattern. The third soldier again looks special forces, as he has an AKS74. He is wearing a KLMK oversuit over his uniform and a flakvest again ontop of the oversuit. The KLMK leave pattern looks more brownish, almost like on the KZS, although this might either be simply a variant or a mistake by the painter. The fourth soldier seems like an Afghan soldier put in place and equiped by the Soviets. The last soldier obviously is a pilot - most likely a helicopter pilot. He is issued a pilot dress with the new camo pattern like the second soldier.

Hope this helped to clear up some things. If I made some mistakes during my research, please feel free to correct me.  

[nyles 11]

Heh, as I've just learned about these new OFP4XBOX screenshots, I gotto add another small bit.

In the XBox incarnation of OFP, many of the current OFP models are getting revamped and polished up a bit. The *new* Soviet soldiers however seem to are now wearing completely differently coloured pants. The top part still seems to be either KLMK or KZS based, but I have absolutley no idea about those pants. They look too blury to be of the same leaf pattern.

Can anyone identify these uniforms?

[Shadow NX 1]

Absolutely no clue, i hope BIS wont leave the russian soldiers that way, these pants make them far too easy to spot plus they look pretty unreal...

I already see it comming, nice realistic US troops and some russian clown units too shoot at... please noooo

[red oct 2]

whoa, other than the strange camo combo, those soldier models look fantastic. maybe they are planing to give their jackets the same color as their pants? maybe its just me, but i think the brown camo sorta blends well with the ground. i just have one question about the Russian Federation army uniforms, i've been seeing lots of pictures of current russian soldiers wearing uniforms like #3 in both pictures below:

how come they aren't wearing any camo patterns? i mostly see soldiers serving in Chechnya wearing this kind of clothing

[Major Fubar 0]

The guy with the flamethrower looks like Nicholas Cage!

...seriously, the more uniform variations, the better IMHO...

[red oct 2]

now that you mentioned it, i've also been wondering does the russian army still have flame throwers? i think they still use those thermite gernades.

[nyles 11]

Instead of a flamethrowers, the Russians are using the RPO-A with thermobaric warhead nowadays

[Shadow NX 1]

"The first sign of a RPO-A used somewhere were the puking conscripts..."

The uniform on the pics is the soviet era winter suit, the grunts still wear it cause their equipment is mostly very old like the Ssh-68 helmets, they take what they can get.

I think most pics with guys wearing them are from first chechen war, now the equipment situation is a bit better.