Apollo 0 Posted March 22, 2004 So i was thinking how to topple the Belgium goverment (wich is corrupt and blatantly childish nothing new there) ,well after some consideration i came to the conclusion that this won't be that easy really. I mean it's not the millitary side of view ,thats pretty straithforward ,just equip a number of millitia troops and let them surprize attack all Belgium bases on the same night and in the morning drive into Brussels pronto ,given the readiness of the Belgium army (the average Belgian soldiers beer belly & ass hardly fits in an Apc) it should be pretty much a walk in the park. (well ok need some funds need some volunteer's just a matter of promotion really) Nah what bothers me more is the political side.Belgium has allies for one ,don't want them to mess with my cute little coup d'etat.And Belium is unstable as it is with all those Flemmish nationalists and i don't want the country to split up just because i want to get rid of some corrupt politician's ,so oisting the Monarchy wouldn't be a good idea ,i would rather have him support and ligitimize my goverment after the coup.And i don't want to change the country into a dictatorship neither but then that means i have to hold free elections after some time and then the corrupt politicians might sneak in again. Most Belgian's hate the corruption of the Belgium goverment and has big distrust in it ,in this sense they could support an bloodless coup that just ousts the corrupt politicians but i doubt that many Belgiums would support a dictatorial regime.With other words i have to find a way to quickly restore stabilization after the coup and i could need some hints for that. I would also need some integer politicians and those should pose a challenge to find.That makes it hard to find decent groups support for the coup ,i don't want anarchists rabble or Flemmish nationalists on my side as i would have to make some prommisses wich would go beyond my goal really. Ah well ,clearly by now you all understand that it is for a good cause ,so if you got some tips fire away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DracoPaladore 0 Posted March 22, 2004 Excuse me, Wether or not your coup fails, wouldn't this forum and BIS considered accountable or responsible for such an action for not contacting the authorities? Somehow, I have trouble beleiving this in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apollo 0 Posted March 22, 2004 OW ,is discussion on staging coup's in specific country's against the forum rules? If it is then plz close the thread ,i don't wanna break any rule's here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted March 22, 2004 Every revolutionary has to start small... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted March 22, 2004 Seriously man revolutions are SO 1789. Belgium is a democracy, if you dont like the current government use your right to vote to voice those feelings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Frenchman 0 Posted March 22, 2004 I see that Denior has gotten to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted March 22, 2004 First you have to make sure the US doesn't take over after your coup succeeds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DracoPaladore 0 Posted March 22, 2004 OW ,is discussion on staging coup's in specific country's against the forum rules? If it is then plz close the thread ,i don't wanna break any rule's here! Â Don't think so. But if you are going to go through with a such an action, couldn't the forums be held accountable? That is, if something actually does happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted March 22, 2004 If you want to start a coup, I suggest you don't try to organise it in a very public forum! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DracoPaladore 0 Posted March 22, 2004 Thats why I'm not taking this very seriously. Isn't government overthrow through a coup suppose to be a surprise? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Postduifje 0 Posted March 22, 2004 heh, I won't say a word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted March 22, 2004 get the military to join you, you'll need people to keep the country in one piece once your or the people you want are in power ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted March 22, 2004 get the military to join you, you'll need people to keep the country in one piece once your or the people you want are in power ;) In that case I'd recommend getting the secret support of your chocolate industry. Controlling the whole belgium economy beforehand will facilitate the coup and you can easily do away with the existing governement without causing too much stirr! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted March 22, 2004 Hi all The Choclate Revolution. Snickers at ten paces. Good joke Laughingly Walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apollo 0 Posted March 22, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Seriously man revolutions are SO 1789. Belgium is a democracy, if you dont like the current government use your right to vote to voice those feelings. But...but.... the point is that those party's are corrupt ,so whether i vote or not il vote for a corrupt goverment. Quote[/b] ]First you have to make sure the US doesn't take over after your coup succeeds Yes thats a problem ,you see we got WMD in this country ,sure we got those nukes from the U.S but still... This while i actually need those friendly and nice American invester's to pump some of those nice green ones trough our hands.I might wait till Kerry get's to power and in the meantime i can plant some jungle over here as detterent. Quote[/b] ]Don't think so. But if you are going to go through with a such an action, couldn't the forums be held accountable? Not if i win! Quote[/b] ]If you want to start a coup, I suggest you don't try to organise it in a very public forum! Ah coman you cant compare the Belgian national security exactly to the Mossad or Kgb ,i mean they probably still use 80386 computers on their offices with a shared connection of 56modem ,have a bell that ring's every hour to wake the employee's for 5 minutes and have a boss with a royal name and 12 unlawfull children.It's not like the Belgian national security achieved anything to stop extremist groups in this country unless when you would consider last years Eurosongfestival's Belgian contester's were actually Fasict revolutionary's.They CCC didn't take the least of precaution's in their organization for bomb attacks on Belgian govermental building's wich they done for over a year here and it was not the state security that caught them ,heck the CCC at one point even held a meeting in a restaurant that was regulary vissited by State security employee's because it was so close to their office. Quote[/b] ]get the military to join you, you'll need people to keep the country in one piece once your or the people you want are in power ;) Well the King is still high commander of the army here ,if i can "convince" him to recognize my goverment then i guess all would be ok.Not that this millitary is actually much of a danger ,most Belgian ship's are wrapped in some hugh conservation bag ,most f16's scrapped means that their air power consists of a fleet of unarmed transport plane's that don't have the engine power to actually keep Belgian soldiers in the air.And it would probably take the land forces 3 weeks to go from somewhere in the country to Brussels due to way to many pub's along the road. Quote[/b] ]In that case I'd recommend getting the secret support of your chocolate industry. Controlling the whole belgium economy beforehand will facilitate the coup and you can easily do away with the existing governement without causing too much stirr! Finaly some REAL advice.The chocolate and beer industry must be vital cornerstone's to my buildup.When i control these industry's all i have to do is a national half sale and the army is renderred completly useless for a long time.And with all the foreign beer's that Interbrew control's i might even influence some important neighbour's.But what can i offer these industry's apart from a Shotgun pounted at their nuts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DracoPaladore 0 Posted March 22, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Don't think so. But if you are going to go through with a such an action, couldn't the forums be held accountable? Not if i win! Talking about other nations who would be upset by the sudden lack of chocolate exports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted March 22, 2004 Finaly some REAL advice.The chocolate and beer industry must be vital cornerstone's to my buildup.When i control these industry's all i have to do is a national half sale and the army is renderred completly useless for a long time.And with all the foreign beer's that Interbrew control's i might even influence some important neighbour's.But what can i offer these industry's apart from a Shotgun pounted at their nuts? I don't care what you do with our little country, just don't touch the beer and the chocolat... Oh and don't keep the monarchy, it's not like anyone actually likes those... euhm... whatever they are... All they do is breed and more of them=more for us to pay... They're like rabbits these days... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted March 22, 2004 pay me and i'll do whatever you want . bombing royal residences, kidnapping government members, robbing national banks, psi-ops, HumInt, whatever ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EiZei 0 Posted March 22, 2004 For a mere 5000 euros + the price of transportation and booze I can get you a company of angry drunken finnish reservists just as long you dont mind collateral damage. How about setting a paypal account? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted March 22, 2004 For a mere 5000 euros + the price of transportation and booze I can get you a company of angry drunken finnish reservists just as long you dont mind collateral damage. How about setting a paypal account? Well, I can try to supervize those drnken finns but i don't promise anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frisbee 0 Posted March 22, 2004 I would also need some integer politicians and those should pose a challenge to find Ooooh! Oooh! Pick me! Pick me! Btw,our army isn't that useless,granted, equipment wise it is, but we have FN to amend that. Actually a lot of the army is probably as tired as you are of the politicians, you'd get their support in no time. The trouble would indeed be keeping the country together, most of flanders would probably want to kick out the rest (but then we wouldn't have FN!). If you get around that, PM me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted March 22, 2004 i forgot VIP escort and assasination (or both at the same time if you see what I mean) also forgot about my payment : twice my weight both in Frites and in fine chocolate and a paid vacation in Ostende Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TopCover 0 Posted March 23, 2004 Marry the daughter of the CEO of FN herstal. Also, do raids from Dutch territory and retreat back after the strike. We have always been able to seek out the Belgian commando's, they have way better beer in their canteens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dauragon 0 Posted March 23, 2004 Is this serious or somekind of joke? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted March 23, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Is this serious or somekind of joke? We are OFP players. We are serious Anyway I was pretty amused to hear how many flaws accompanied the Child abuse/ murder case in Belgium until now. 1. Door of prison transport left open when departing from court. (Have seen that on news) 2. Journalist was able to get to main suspect and took photos within jail and even in his prison cell. 3. Key for handcuffs found on table next to his cell. Quote[/b] ]A spokesman for the Belgian prison system said he had no idea how the key ended up in the sack of salt."The only thing we can say at this stage of the investigation is that a key was found in a sack of salt which had been there for a very long time," It clearly looks like this guy has help from up above. I guess we can wait for the day when he escapes and dissapears somewhere. Sorry for going OT but it more or less demonstrates the state the belgium juridical system is at right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites