crashdome 3 Posted February 7, 2004 Some videos I found of MS Longhorn's conceptual 3d User Interface at www.extremetech.com Sorry but I only grabbed the wmv versions.. there are others at above site. http://www.crashdome.net/images/WaveWindows.wmv http://www.crashdome.net/images/StarWars.wmv http://www.crashdome.net/images/dizzy.wmv What this means...? No more damn white boxes when you move a window!!! BIS... expect demands for a 3D dialog system Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kegetys 2 Posted February 7, 2004 Sun has or had some similar 3D desktop system for X Windowing System... Looks like this. I can't really think of any use for such system though other than playing around with it for a while and then turn it off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted February 7, 2004 Waste of resources - the GUI is supposed to be functional, with all needed information available quickly. It is not supposed to be a resource draining toy store Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted February 7, 2004 When the desktops will be so good that once again you can grab your documents with the hand, crumble them and throw them into the bin, geeks will have another argument to keep using the shell: No sports! Now give me that 3d desktop, a VR-Glove w/ ForceFeedback and a 3d wastebin! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blink Dog 0 Posted February 7, 2004 Try telling that to microsoft, my xp is currently using 80Mb of ram just to organize my disk drive. I liked DOS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iNeo 0 Posted February 7, 2004 Looks kinda useless, I hope they make something good outta it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted February 7, 2004 Completely useless but funky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted February 7, 2004 Pretty useless, nice to look at for 2 minutes, and then you turn it off (due to starting headache ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llauma 0 Posted February 7, 2004 I could be useful when the 3D monitors arrive where you can look behind objects by moving your head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qUiLL 0 Posted February 8, 2004 3d desktop will be too much of a hassle. if i want to see a window quickly i like to just be able to click on it in the taskbar and presto! not this bs of moving it around to get it up front Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSpencer 0 Posted February 8, 2004 Yeah, if you've ever modelled something, you'd know. A two axis grid is easy to work with something, you don't need a 3 axis Windows UberXP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qUiLL 0 Posted February 8, 2004 what happened to good ole' windows 95 anyway? it could do 90% of what i do now with the windows xp interphase using about a gazillion mb less space. thats not even bringing windows 3.1 into the equation, that is definitely worth the lesser-functionality for like 1/10 the space of windows 95 and 1/1000000000th the space of xp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crashdome 3 Posted February 8, 2004 Ah but think of this.... http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1152375,00.asp Quote[/b] ]Kerry actually described more than just the key features of the new 3D Desktop Composition Engine, adding in details on how Longhorn will handle high pixel-density displays, hardware-accelerated vector graphics, images, 3D, and ClearType text, along with core design requirements for graphics hardware subsystems for Longhorn systems. Users will get two new Longhorn UI experiences, the first being called Tier 1 (not the final name), a DX-7 baseline that all Longhorn systems must support. The more advanced Tier 2 requires high-end DX9-based hardware. It's likely that users will be able to switch between Tiers depending on their circumstances. And corporations who want to gradually ease into the new UI Tiers of experience might first opt to use a provided Windows 2000 compatibility mode, until they ramp up their support staff. I think 3D enivroments are good. It would allow a more non-Desktop GUI. Something I cannot stand in making a 2D graphics based application is the amount of re-painting that is required and the lack of space. If you could have a textured object(window w/ icons or whatever) behind another in a 3d enviroment, you are refreshing at a constant frame rate and don't need to worry about re-painting. Also, you could create layers upon layers and not fight for that 1-pixel length line to get the background window forward. I agree that waves and other such features are rather childish, but the idea of a pure 3D desktop would allow a much simpler approach to application development. No more fights for desktop real-estate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 8, 2004 Great. Now you can clutter your desktop with useless crap in 3 dimesions and not just 2! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
der bastler 0 Posted February 8, 2004 Something like this, eh? http://www.3dwm.org/ Nah, like my XFce4 (desktop, choosing an app), used memory after complete startup: 39MB... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baron von Beer 0 Posted February 8, 2004 Guys, wheres your imagination, your vision? Imagine, you are playing OFP2, and you drive off the edge of the map. Suddenly, you the green earth turns into the (insert selected color/wallpaper) of your desktop. You advance into C:, and start destroying folders (Which deletes them from the drive)... At least it would make cleaning out the hard drive more fun. Yeah, unless programs are integrated somehow, I don't see this being usefull. Even then, I would rather have the available resources. I want my ram/cpu to make my work render more quickly, my games play faster, not make my My Computer Icon have an extra dimension.. I don't care if it is 3d, or just text on a black backdrop, it still does the same thing when I click on it. This looks like nothing more than an attempt to make the OS "Pretty", and add a cool factor to new users. Sure, some people WILL like it (likely those who use the PC for basic tasks, and don't care if it uses extra resources, they can still surf the net just as fast, and have a better looking desktop.) Nothing wrong with that, just hope it is optional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crashdome 3 Posted February 8, 2004 Guys, wheres your imagination, your vision? Imagine, you are playing OFP2, and you drive off the edge of the map. Suddenly, you the green earth turns into the (insert selected color/wallpaper) of your desktop. You advance into C:, and start destroying folders (Which deletes them from the drive)... Â At least it would make cleaning out the hard drive more fun. Yeah, unless programs are integrated somehow, I don't see this being usefull. Even then, I would rather have the available resources. I want my ram/cpu to make my work render more quickly, my games play faster, not make my My Computer Icon have an extra dimension.. I don't care if it is 3d, or just text on a black backdrop, it still does the same thing when I click on it. Â This looks like nothing more than an attempt to make the OS "Pretty", and add a cool factor to new users. Sure, some people WILL like it (likely those who use the PC for basic tasks, and don't care if it uses extra resources, they can still surf the net just as fast, and have a better looking desktop.) Nothing wrong with that, just hope it is optional. I can understand that, but not everyone simply plays games with their computer. I would be the first one to respect older technology. I still love the Atari 2600 and Commodore 64, but why on earth would anyone want to keep a 2D desktop when in about 5 years the "resources" everyone is so guarded about will be a pinch of what will be available. As far as program integration.. I can imagine all applications would make use of it at some point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toadeater 0 Posted February 8, 2004 You'd need a 3D input device of some sort in order for 3D interfaces to be useful. Something like a VR glove and a true 3D VR display that projects things all around you. Now then, that would be something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aj_addons 0 Posted February 9, 2004 in one word pretty useless the last two just look like really fancy screen savers how the hell do you work on somehting that is flying about upside down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denoir 0 Posted February 9, 2004 I think this is coming very late. Your fancy graphics board with a huge amount of memory and a strong GPU is today entirely unused by the windows system. When you move windows around or play around in photoshop or simply read a document, your CPU is taking the full load. With the new system you let the graphics card handle the graphics. This should have been introduced years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted February 9, 2004 I'll end up turning it all off anyway! My XP Pro desktop looks like NT4.0 anyway. (Very plain and grey) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vognsen 0 Posted February 9, 2004 Yea. About time that 3d graphics get integrated in the windows desktop. Imagine how easy it would be to code games, if windows had its own 3d engine? Just tell windows what to use and which textures.... I know thats very simple said... but if windows are optimised for 3 dimensions, games wouldnt have to come up with their entirely own engine. We would finally have a standard engine, no problems with engines not working with particular drivers etc... And no more linux for gaming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted February 9, 2004 With the new system you let the graphics card handle the graphics. Isn't that why all gfx cards today have 2d accelerators, too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
