The Iraq Thread 2

[turms 0]

Quote[/b] ]No ties to terrorests!?! what part of the world you been hiding in brother! Iraq has harbored terrorist groups for years

which terrorist groups and where are the proofs?

[WhoCares 0]

Indeed, I already thought about picking up on that one. IIRC, the only 'link' Powell provided in his presentation at the UN were Ansar-il-Islam (sp?) in the kurdish-iranian border zone, where Saddam had little to no control anyway...

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Quote[/b] ]No ties to terrorests!?! what part of the world you been hiding in brother! Iraq has harbored terrorist groups for years

which terrorist groups and where are the proofs?

Around a year ago, maybe longer not sure, there were members of Al Quada photographed having meetings with high ranking members of the Iraqi military, not once, but three times. These photos were shown during two press meetings on CNN by Cohen Powell.

Also there has been weapons and other military gear intercepted by the Phillipines military in raids at know terrorsist pick up points. These weapons and gear were from Iraq. There are around four different terrorist groups active with the phillipines, al quada is one of them.

Iraq has also been know to harbor terrorist groups since the early 80's. Many terrorist groups take refuge with Iraq knowing the Iraqi government will not hunt down or turn over known terrorists.

[denoir 0]

Quote[/b] ]No ties to terrorests!?! what part of the world you been hiding in brother! Iraq has harbored terrorist groups for years

which terrorist groups and where are the proofs?

Around a year ago, maybe longer not sure, there were members of Al Quada photographed having meetings with high ranking members of the Iraqi military, not once, but three times. These photos were shown during two press meetings on CNN by Cohen Powell.

It was claimed that it happened in Prague but it proved to be false. Even the Bush administration admitted that.

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Iraq has also been know to harbor terrorist groups since the early 80's. Many terrorist groups take refuge with Iraq knowing the Iraqi government will not hunt down or turn over known terrorists.

Iraq supported terrorism up to the end of the Iran-Iraq war after which they completely lost interest. Also noted should be that these terrorists were of the Arabic-Communist type, not the Islamic-Fundamentalist type. Until Iraq was invaded this spring, AQ and the Baathists were on opposing sides. They hated each other guts and Saddam was famous for his religious persecutions.

Needless to say, just like with the WMD, no evidence of pre-war AQ activity have been found.

Quote[/b] ]You mean the same allies that had to much to loose if Saddam was ousted. France who sold them weapons in trade for oil or germeny who had an oil agreement with Iraq. Come on say it isn't true. I've read intel documents on different country ties to Iraq in preperation to go over there, before I was routed to Japan. These same ALLIES were only concerned for their interests, but aren't we all. Those were the allies that told us not to go. The UK never told us not to go...remember that the UK was one of the biggestallies for going in to Iraq right along with us.

Not going to war for selfish reasons beats morally the hell out of going to war for selfish reasons. You claim that you attacked Iraq to defend USA and its allies. I'm asking again, defend against what? And an overwhelming majority of your allies did not want you to go to war, so clearly they didn't feel that Iraq was a clear and present danger.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

Yes, that link and the photograph of the interaction with terorist organisation were not fake but misinterpreted, simple because the people observed were not the ones we thought they were.

The only link that CAN be made is that Saddam financially supported families of palestinian suicide bombers. The legal question now is whether that can be realy considered as sponsoring the terorists themselves!

I would say in a western court a case like this would be clear. Not guilty in this specific accusation. And the UN is basically some sort of court, isnt it?

[ralphwiggum 6]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/12/05/sprj.irq.main/index.html

Quote[/b] ]Bremer predicts an increase in attacks in Iraq

Bush names James Baker to help reduce Iraq's huge debt

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Despite a recent drop in attacks against U.S. troops in Iraq, the U.S. civilian administrator in Iraq Friday predicted violence will increase in the next six months as occupation authorities begin to transfer power to Iraqi leadership.

"In the immediate phase ahead of us between now and the end of June, we will actually see an increase in attacks, because the people who are against us now realize that there's huge momentum behind both the economic and political reconstruction of this country," administrator L. Paul Bremer said in a televised interview.

Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt said at a news conference that conflict between insurgents and soldiers is "below recent norms," averaging 19 engagements daily against coalition forces and two daily against Iraqi civilians and forces.

[bmgarcangel 0]

Frankly, I don't understand what everyone is worried with in Iraq. I mean seriously, the job is being done there. And plus when a democratic president is elected into office in the next ellections, I can assure you that more will be done in Iraq, such as more operations, more men, etc.,etc.,etc.

One thing though, that i do believe that needs to be done, is increased border patrols and road checkpoints,etc.,etc.

Not to mention, an increase in the search for arm caches and such.

[bn880 5]

Frankly, I don't understand what everyone is worried with in Iraq. I mean seriously, the job is being done there. And plus when a democratic president is elected into office in the next ellections, I can assure you that more will be done in Iraq, such as more operations, more men, etc.,etc.,etc.

One thing though, that i do believe that needs to be done, is increased border patrols and road checkpoints,etc.,etc.

Not to mention, an increase in the search for arm caches and such.

Then to you I'd say, try living there as an Iraqi. Then you will be cursing quite nicely, not knowing if the 20 year old M1A2 gunner will care if you are armed or not when something arizes. And who cares about water, power, and communications (phone).

[Acecombat 0]

Frankly, I don't understand what everyone is worried with in Iraq.  I mean seriously, the job is being done there.  And plus when a democratic president is elected into office in the next ellections, I can assure you that more will be done in Iraq, such as more operations, more men, etc.,etc.,etc.

One thing though, that i do believe that needs to be done, is increased border patrols and road checkpoints,etc.,etc.  

Not to mention, an increase in the search for arm caches and such.

Ahh the pleasures of arm chair comments

[drewb99 0]

Dunno if this has been posted yet, but do a google search for Miserable Failure and see who comes out on top

[Tex -USMC- 0]

Dunno if this has been posted yet, but do a google search for Miserable Failure and see who comes out on top  

They've got a sense of humor, don't they? Just like googling for 'Microsoft' or 'French military victories'  

edit: oops, didn't actually read the article at first, and didn't know that the french one had been mentioned.

[bn880 5]

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[walker 0]

[Acecombat 0]

OMG this is a conspiracy....

[HOBOMAN 0]

The thing that ticks me off is we did find any wmds yet. France sold iraq weapons in the 80's but those haven't poped yet. And now some danmed resistance fighters are killing our troops. Iraq is living hell with sucide bombings and RPG attackes. It's time to drive them resistance thugs out of iraq before this turns into anouther nam.

[ran 0]

France sold iraq weapons in the 80's but those haven't poped yet.

hmm ... simple question : were we the only ones ??

[Tovarish 0]

The thing that ticks me off is we did find any wmds yet.

That ticks a lot of people off, but for different reasons

Quote[/b] ]France sold iraq weapons in the 80's but those haven't poped yet.

LOL are you saying France sold Iraq Nukes or chemical weapons?

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And now some danmed resistance fighters are killing our troops. Iraq is living hell with sucide bombings and RPG attackes. It's time to drive them resistance thugs out of iraq before this turns into anouther nam.

Slight problem....it's their country, not yours.

[ran 0]

Quote[/b] ]France sold iraq weapons in the 80's but those haven't poped yet.

LOL are you saying France sold Iraq Nukes or chemical weapons?

we've done some nasty businesses with iraq in its good period ....

we may not have sold complete or real weapons , but we've sold components and materials which could be used to make those .... just like most western countries did back then ....

[HOBOMAN 0]

I would first like to say I'm not try to offend anyone and I am a proud american patriot.

France and other countries sold Rgps, surface to air missiles, small arms, and ballistic cruse missiles to Iraq in the 80's. We are not sure if they sold any wmds because we don't have a complete list. My nato countries wanted to get ride of weapons they stockpiled duringthe cold war. When tensions started to fade, some countries sold their extra weapons to iraqi and iran.

Although even the US gave osama bin laden weapons becuase of the russian invadsion in afganistan in the 80's. The usa at the time intended to stop the spread of communism; Osama wasn't a terrorist. Once the taliban started to use the war weapons to attack civilians the usa bombed weapon stock piles.

France sold weapons to iraq to encourage the bloody iraq iran war. The reason the provide iraq and not other countries with the weapons is still unclear to us.

[HOBOMAN 0]

Slight problem....it's their country, not yours.

No its now our country. The resistance fighters never did govern iraq. They are only thugs trying to drive us out of iraq. SO iraq is the usa's for now.

[HOBOMAN 0]

The usa will stand it's ground protecting Iraq. I'm pround of my families servive for their country. WE will not let simple thugs and idiots drive the USA from ensuring the iraqi people freedom and liberty.

[bn880 5]

Iraq certainly is not yours and we will see how well you stand in the sand... Just wait, and see, what will be.

You my friend appear to have been a little washed out by the media and your governments drivel, listen to yourself, trying to blame your peoples deaths on one nation, France. I mean come on! Not realistic, not even barely. Stop being fixated on this idea that France is some kind of evil enemy of your nation. They are not, they just have some serious morals and seem to despise war a little.

[denoir 0]

The usa will stand  it's ground protecting Iraq. I'm pround of my families servive for their country. WE will not let simple thugs and idiots drive the USA from ensuring the iraqi people freedom and liberty.    

That's all nice and well, but do you have any idea of how to accomplish that? Things arn't going all that well.

[Crazysheep 1]

France sold weapons to iraq to encourage the bloody iraq iran war. The reason the provide iraq and not other countries with the weapons is still unclear to us.

Didn't America do that as well....? To a larger extent...?

[The Frenchman 0]

France sold weapons to iraq to encourage the bloody iraq iran war. The reason the provide iraq and not other countries with the weapons is still unclear to us.

Didn't America do that as well....? To a larger extent...?

Yes....and more.

Sigh