Make Civilian fire at BluFor

[Play3r 147]

I want to have a Civilian fire at a BluFor force.

But i don't want all of the civilians to be against the BluFor only one Civilian (HVT who wants to fight his way out of  trouble)

i am using the Civilian present module the same way that SayUnkl does in this video:

 

 

I have tried with :

 in INIT:

SetSide East; HVT1 setBehaviour "COMBAT";  

 

Does Anyone know a way to make it work.

 

 

[Grumpy Old Man 3545]

Most reliable way would be to have an opfor unit join the civilian side, then when needed let him join opfor side again.

Editor placed (and spawned) civilians use a different FSM than east/west/ind units and aren't as capable in combat.

Something like this:

 

//opfor unit init field:
[this] join createGroup civilian;


//when you need to make the unit fire:
[yourUnit] join createGroup east;
{
	yourUnit reveal [_x,4];
}forEach (yourUnit nearEntities 500);//reveal everything to the unit within 500m to force an immediate reaction

Cheers

[johnnyboy 3792]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Old Man said:

Most reliable way would be to have an opfor unit join the civilian side, then when needed let him join opfor side again.

Yep that's the way to do it.  Yay, Grumpy is back!  :)

[Tankbuster 1746]

I went at it differently. I spawned an OPFOR man and forceuniform'd him into some civvy clothes.

[Tankbuster 1746]

One of good things about this method is that if Blufor shoot him, they won't get a rating penalty

[GEORGE FLOROS GR 4207]

8 hours ago, Play3r said:

Civilian (HVT

 

Hello there Play3r !

 

I have some missions for example if you want to check here :

 

[johnnyboy 3792]

5 hours ago, Tankbuster said:

One of good things about this method is that if Blufor shoot him, they won't get a rating penalty

Good point TB!

[Tankbuster 1746]

For example, my suicide bombers, courtesy of @sarogahtyp script ,to look like suicide bombers, they have to be in civvy clothes, but sometimes the players suss him out before he gets to them and shoot him dead, so he can't be a real civ.

[pierremgi 4853]

4 hours ago, Tankbuster said:

For example, my suicide bombers, courtesy of @sarogahtyp script ,to look like suicide bombers, they have to be in civvy clothes, but sometimes the players suss him out before he gets to them and shoot him dead, so he can't be a real civ.

Mine are full civilian, in middle of civilians. So, no AIs can't shoot at them, even they are the target (in player's group). The only thing you can detect is the explo vest and the "Allahackbar" shout. You have very few seconds to run/drive away or shoot at him. Perfectly stressful.

[Grumpy Old Man 3545]

12 hours ago, johnnyboy said:

Yay, Grumpy is back!  :)

I was never gone

Spoiler

just camouflaged

 

Cheers

[HazJ 1289]

37 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Man said:

just camouflaged

 

Monty Python OFP style?

Old but still funny!

[Play3r 147]

 

On 30/11/2018 at 3:07 PM, Grumpy Old Man said:

Most reliable way would be to have an opfor unit join the civilian side, then when needed let him join opfor side again.

Editor placed (and spawned) civilians use a different FSM than east/west/ind units and aren't as capable in combat.

Something like this:

 

//opfor unit init field:
[this] join createGroup civilian;


//when you need to make the unit fire:
[yourUnit] join createGroup east;
{
	yourUnit reveal [_x,4];
}forEach (yourUnit nearEntities 500);//reveal everything to the unit within 500m to force an immediate reaction

Cheers

 

Sorry for the late reply G O M

 

i have here to night tried your idea.

My scenario is this to be exactly  

You as BluFor enters a village with Civilians (made with CivilianModule) it is Working

When you enter the Village ONLY One Civilian will be hostile against BluFor,

 

I have tried to make it happen in VR but it does not seem to work for me,

Placed a OpFor and put inside his INIT :[CivileChef] join createGroup civilian;      // CivileChef is the OpFor unit

i have put down a trigger 150+150 to be actived by BluFor 

Trigger is repeatable.

in ACT i have : 

Hint"insideTrigger";
{ 
 ShotCivile reveal [_x,4];                                        // ShotCivile is the Civilian you has to kill
}forEach (ShotCivile nearEntities 200);

 

In Dea:

[ShotCivile] joinSilent grpNull;hint"outsideTrigger";

But the Civilian does not engage me he just runs around

Do i have to make the ShotCivilian join the OpFor Group Civilian ?

or am i just doing it wrong?  apparently c",)

 

[Grumpy Old Man 3545]

13 hours ago, Play3r said:

 

 

Sorry for the late reply G O M

 

i have here to night tried your idea.

My scenario is this to be exactly  

You as BluFor enters a village with Civilians (made with CivilianModule) it is Working

When you enter the Village ONLY One Civilian will be hostile against BluFor,

 

I have tried to make it happen in VR but it does not seem to work for me,

Placed a OpFor and put inside his INIT :[CivileChef] join createGroup civilian;      // CivileChef is the OpFor unit

i have put down a trigger 150+150 to be actived by BluFor 

Trigger is repeatable.

in ACT i have : 

Hint"insideTrigger";
{ 
 ShotCivile reveal [_x,4];                                        // ShotCivile is the Civilian you has to kill
}forEach (ShotCivile nearEntities 200);

 

In Dea:

[ShotCivile] joinSilent grpNull;hint"outsideTrigger";

But the Civilian does not engage me he just runs around

Do i have to make the ShotCivilian join the OpFor Group Civilian ?

or am i just doing it wrong?  apparently c",)

 

Well you make your hostile unit join grpNull, doesn't really do what you wanted initially, so why not use my example and go from there?

If you want the unit to go hostile as soon as he detects blufor units it could be as simple as:

//unit init field:

[this] join createGroup civilian;

waiting = this spawn {
	_targets = [];
	waitUntil {
		_targets = _this nearTargets 500 select {_x#2 isEqualTo west};
		_this globalChat format ["Spotted %1 blufor",count _targets];
		count _targets > 0
	};
	[_this] join createGroup east;
	{
		_this reveal [_x#4,4];
	}forEach _targets;
};

Play with unit skills, spotting skill etc., lots of stuff to tweak in a case like this.

 

Cheers

[Play3r 147]

7 hours ago, Grumpy Old Man said:

Well you make your hostile unit join grpNull, doesn't really do what you wanted initially, so why not use my example and go from there?

If you want the unit to go hostile as soon as he detects blufor units it could be as simple as:

//unit init field:

[this] join createGroup civilian;

waiting = this spawn {
	_targets = [];
	waitUntil {
		_targets = _this nearTargets 500 select {_x#2 isEqualTo west};
		_this globalChat format ["Spotted %1 blufor",count _targets];
		count _targets > 0
	};
	[_this] join createGroup east;
	{
		_this reveal [_x#4,4];
	}forEach _targets;
};

Play with unit skills, spotting skill etc., lots of stuff to tweak in a case like this.

 

Cheers

It works great but the Civilian does not follow the Wp i have set up for him to follow, but he does react to BluFor.

He just stand still and waits for me to walk up to him, It is my plan to have him walk around in the Village so he wont be in the same spot every time..

 

Cheers

[Grumpy Old Man 3545]

13 minutes ago, Play3r said:

It works great but the Civilian does not follow the Wp i have set up for him to follow, but he does react to BluFor.

He just stand still and waits for me to walk up to him, It is my plan to have him walk around in the Village so he wont be in the same spot every time..

 

Cheers

This is the first post in this thread where you mention waypoints.

 

Waypoints are stored per group, so upon joining the civ group all waypoints are gone, since it's a new group.

You can use copyWaypoint to carry waypoints from one group over to another one.

 

Cheers

[Play3r 147]

Hi GOM

Yes this is first time i did not know that it had a influence.

you write that i have to COPY WP from another Group.

is your idea that i make a unit WP around the village and the HIDE the unit and i COPY the WP from him to my Civilian ?

So my ShotCivilian INIT will look like this:

 

[this] join createGroup civilian;

civilian copyWaypoints CivilianWP   // but how do i make a Group called CivilianWP and that keeps his WP or do i use the CALLSIGN given by he Game like Alpha 1-1??

waiting = this spawn {
    _targets = [];
    waitUntil {
        _targets = _this nearTargets 500 select {_x#2 isEqualTo west};
        _this globalChat format ["Spotted %1 blufor",count _targets];
        count _targets > 0
    };
    [_this] join createGroup east;
    {
        _this reveal [_x#4,4];
    }forEach _targets;
};

 

Thanks for the help, GOM sorry if i don't understand so much of this scriping thing.

i have looked at :

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/groupId
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setGroupId

But i just don't get it how to make a group that keeps his WP