New lostbrothers us special forces

[ran 0]

http://lostbrothers.ofpmatch.com/index.php

[ran 0]

and a small preview of the coming soon FAMAS pack :

[peeps 0]

its very difficult to reply to that

[RTR_Commander 0]

They look amazing    and I can't wait for them to be released!

Any date yet?

[ran 0]

no date yet , still improving the character models

[Antichrist 0]

Are you going to release SP missions or campaign with it?

[ran 0]

dunno

[Antichrist 0]

U should!

Cause no matter how awesome OFP: HK addon is it is still kinda feels underused

[ran 0]

bump

[suchey 0]

May I suggest that you release these as a single pack...this is to say...combine the famas and special forces into the HK pack in a single download as version 1.2 or something...I think this may help in getting these great items running on multiplay servers...the beauty of the HK pack is you can tell players they need the HK pack and they get all the stuff rolled into one nice neat package. Trying to get your average public server player to download add-ons is difficult at best and having all of it in one package would certainly make things easier in my oppinion. Perhpas an update for those who have the pack and a replacement of the pack download with the full package for those that dont??? Just an idea. Great work by the way!

[edc 0]

I think they should put them in seperate packs-I don' want a FAMAS, and I already have the HK pack, so I would have to download a lot of stuff I don't want.

[ran 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">May I suggest that you release these as a single pack...this is to say...combine the famas and special forces into the HK pack in a single download as version 1.2 or something...I think this may help in getting these great items running on multiplay servers...the beauty of the HK pack is you can tell players they need the HK pack and they get all the stuff rolled into one nice neat package. Trying to get your average public server player to download add-ons is difficult at best and having all of it in one package would certainly make things easier in my oppinion. Perhpas an update for those who have the pack and a replacement of the pack download with the full package for those that dont??? Just an idea. Great work by the way!

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not .....

the famas pack and hk pack are 2 different things , you see ?

if i don't wannt the hk weapons , i don't download them , i download onyl the famas , etc etc .. and all our addons are on our site ......and if you are still not happy with our servers , then you can put our addons in one nice zip file and send it over to your friends

[miles teg 1]

I just wanted to mention that so far those U.S. Forces addons are looking fairly good, although I wanted to point out a few things.  On the Army Rangers, I noticed that the soldier is wearing a Gulf War era "Chocolate Chips" type camoflage cover on his kevlar helmet, yet the rest of his uniform does not match.   Also Army Rangers normally don't run around not wearing a hat or helmet.  Only Special Forces (Green Berets) and Delta Force operators can generally get away with not wearing a cover as they are allowed greater freedom regarding uniforms and physical appearance due to the nature of their missions.    Rangers are still closer to the regular Army in how they operate (they are the shock troops of the U.S. Army) and still conform to Army regulations.  In addition the Army Rangers should have their sleeves rolled down as they generally rarely roll up their sleeves in desert enviornments.  The desert uniforms are designed to have baggy sleeves that allow air to circulate through the uniform, plus generally in a tactical situation, sleeves are kept rolled down.

Finally the Delta Force operators (and maybe Rangers) should have headset radios.  It also would be very nice if you could make either the Delta Force Commandos and/or the SAS commandos with the arab style head scarves like the KSK troops in the HK MOD.  

For some outstanding pics of U.S. Special Forces in Afghanistan as well as other U.S. military units check out this page at:

http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/album01

Hopefully some of those pics will give your team some more ideas.   My hope is that those of you working on this mod for Lost Brothers will do the units accurately. After all, why bother doing so much hard work on these units if they are not accurate?

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[ale2999 0]

Nice job again to the great lost brothers mod

[Garritos 0]

rolled up sleeves are bad because they are always more tan than the face making an undesireable effect. =] other than that i love em.

[suchey 0]

will the special forces be released as a seperate download or as an inclusion/update to the HK pack ?

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Suchey @ Sep. 29 2002,20:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">will the special forces be released as a seperate download or as an inclusion/update to the HK pack ?<span id='postcolor'>

separate

[mattmayhem 0]

Could you make an car-15 shorty with desert camo, aimpoint sight and a long scilencer? This pack looks really great, im really looking forward to it.

Ooops i mean car-15

[Eviscerator 0]

car-14? what the hell is that?

[USMC Sniper 0]

He ment a Car15. Anyways, to mattmayhem, the BIS XMS is a CAR15, CAR15 is simply another name for the XM177E2. Anyways, I would like to see a resking of that at least, and get rid of those horrible looping sounds too!

[Jester983 0]

They look great. Im glad someone has finally decided to remake the delta force guys. The ones we have now were nice when they came out but they are in desperate need of a make over now.

Looks great. Keep it up guys!

[Eviscerator 0]

well...no actually that and the colt commando/m4/car 15 are developments of a carbine version of an AR-15:

(not my writing btw)

Colt CAR-15 / XM-177 Commando (USA)

Colt CAR-15 - earliest version

Colt XM-177E1

Colt Commando (model 733, note M16A2-style brass deflector and forward assist)

Data for current production Colt mod 933 Commando

Caliber: 5.56x45 mm (.223 Remington)

Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt

Overall length: 680 - 762 mm

Barrel length: 292 mm

Weigth: 2.44 kg empty

Rate of fire: 750 rounds per minute

Magazine capacity: 30 rounds (or any other M16 type magazine)

The first carbine version of the M16 assault rifle appeared under the name of CAR-15 in 1965, an was intended for US Special Forces who fought in Vietnam. The original M16 was simply shortened by cutting the half of the lenght of the barrel (from original 20 inches to 10 inches) and by shortening the buttstock by another 3 inches. The butt was plastic and retractable, the handguards were of triangular shape and the flash hider was of original three-prong type. Based on the origunal CAR-15, Colt quickly developed the CAR-15 Air Force Survival Rifle, intended, as a name implied, to serve to downed airplane and helicopter pilots. This version had tubular handguards and metallick tubular buttstock, and fo some reasons the pistol grip was shortened.

Initial combat experience with CAR-15 brought up some problems. First, the carbine was too loud, deafing the firing soldier quite quickly. Second, the muzzle flash was also terrific, blinding the shooter at night and giving avay the position of the shooter to the enemies. Colt partially solved this problem by installing a new, longer flash suppressor. This version, known as the Colt model 609 Commando, also carried new handguards of tubular shape. This model was officially adopted by US ARmy as XM-177E1. This wersion had M16A1-style receiver with forward assist button. In the mid-1967 Colt slightly upgraded the Commando by lenghting the barrel up to 11.5 inches (292 mm), and this version was adopted as XM-177E2.

Later, with the introduction of the M16A2 and M16A3 (flat-top) models, Colt also changed the design of itys Commando line, adding three-burst options and flat-top receivers with Weaver-style rails.

Current Colt Commando carbines (Colt still called these Submachine-guns) are based on either M16A2 or M16A3 receivers, and had 11.5 inch (292 mm) barrels with M16A2-style flash suppressors, and available in either 3-round bursts or full-auto versions. Colt Commando carbines are used by various US Special Forces and by some foreign forces, including Israei ISAYERET.

From the technical point of view, the Colt Commando is similar to contemporary M16 rifle, having same light alloy, two parts receiver, direct gas operated, rotating bolt action, with non-reciprocating charging handle at the rear of the receiver. The telescoping buttstock is made from metallic tube. Due to recoil spring, located inside the butt, the Commando cannot be equipped with side- or underfolding stock withouth some redesigning. Currenly Colt Commando assault carbines are issued with standard M16-type 30 round magazines, but any other M16-compatible magazine can be used, including the 100-rounds Beta-C dual drums.

[Eviscerator 0]

oh and before there are claims of they all look the same it doesnt matter...

AR-10A2 7.62mm Carbine

AR-10A2 7.62mm Rifle

[ebud 18]

A few comments on the uniforms.

Please, please take the time to add realistic wrinkles, shadows and highlights to the cloth.

An easy way to do this is to go to a clothing site such as the gap etc, grab a light colored image of a pair of pants/shirt, make it grey scale and overlay the appropriate area in photoshop over your cammo... play with the layer settings ( multiply, overlay, screen etc), adjust the contrast and opacity, mulitply certain layers and overlay certain layers... in the end you'll get much better looking uniforms.

Lot's of work, but it's worth it. Right now the uniforms just look flat and highly unrealistic. I had the same problems with the HK pack... but now since your doing US units I had to comment.

Take a look at the lighting effects on the clothing I've been working on

here

http://www.geocities.com/eczerwonka/ofp.html

and

http://www.geocities.com/eczerwonka/gr.html

Not perfect, but you can see how just a few layers of clothing wrinkles over some flat cammo can make them look a little more realistic.

<edit> also once you get one set done, you can use it over and over... you just edit the cammo/cloth layer. Easy.

Great work so far....can't wait to play with them

Ebud

[miles teg 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Eviscerator @ Sep. 29 2002,23:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">car-14? what the hell is that?<span id='postcolor'>

Car-15 was what he said... but basically it's part of the Colt family of M16 rifles and is very similar to the M4. For more info go to:

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as50-e.htm

However personally I would not want to see one of these in desert cammo...looks kinda cheezy...most of the ones I've seen used in desert enviornments are just the standard black color.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>