France General

[TheMightyKovacs 6]

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/07/24/france-muslim-smashes-wine-section-in-store-and-demand-to-enforce-sharia/

Muslim destroyed wine section in store, demands shop to obey sharia and not sell alcohol in shops during rammadan

http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2015/07/25/france-muslims-beat-woman-for-wearing-a-swimsuit-while-sunbathing-in-park/

http://diversitymachtfrei.blogspot.com/2015/07/france-woman-beaten-up-because-she-was.html

another one, woman attacked for sunbathing in bikini,

Well that's just people being dumb, hell even non-muslims do/say stupid shit like that. People are just stupid like that.

Edited July 27, 2015 by themightykovacs

[ProfTournesol 956]

(BBC News) France train shooting: Hollande awards Legion d'honneur

 

 

Three Americans and a Briton who foiled a suspected terror attack on a train have received France's top honour from President Francois Hollande.

Mr Hollande presented Spencer Stone, Alek Skarlatos, Anthony Sadler and Briton Chris Norman with the Legion d'honneur at the Elysee Palace.

Two other unnamed passengers will receive the honour at a later date.

The passengers overpowered a suspected radical Islamist on a high-speed train bound for Paris on Friday.

French authorities are questioning the suspect, Moroccan national Ayoub El-Khazzani, 25.

 

[spooky lynx 73]

if we must obey Muslim rules in Saudi Arabia as tourists, they must obey Christian rules in Europe,

What? Christian rules? Let me remind you that LGBT crew is to be ashamed and burn in hell according to Bible. So 'Christian rules' are gone (Charlie Hebdo support shows it even better). Unlike Muslim ones.

 

 

Well that's just people being dumb, hell even non-muslims do/say stupid shit like that. People are just stupid like that.

Agree. But if there are plenty of stupid people among natives, why should Europe get even more from outside?

[sudayev 27]

c

 

 

African village in Calais, France! This is not Somalia, this is France. It makes me wonder - why it's still there and where is French law and order? Does the government has still control over tunnel/port region? Hard to believe seeing such images and ask such ridiculous about police presence in EU's most powerful country, but in my opinion someone has lost control and is losing it - and it's not the African side, because they are persistent and eventually they will persevere.

 

 

Something about overnight battles at Eurotunnel. Looks also like the Africans footsoldiers have found new allies the British and French antifa groups.

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/609632/Channel-Tunnel-Eurotunnel-Eurostar-delays-migrant-crisis-large-scale-intrusion

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3258421/Eurotunnel-services-suspended-migrants-storm-Channel-Tunnel.html

 

 

By the way. I think we need a proper thread regarding the migrant crisis in the EU"

[ProfTournesol 956]

(BBC News) Jeb Bush says sorry for mocking French working week

 

That's a change with his brother, who didn't even know where Europe was on the world map.

[ProfTournesol 956]

(Vice News) Windows 3.1 Is Still Alive, And It Just Killed a French Airport

 

Just lol  :rolleyes: 

[da12thMonkey 1943]

Multiple shootings and explosions in Paris tonight. Thought to be suicide bombs near Stade de France and shootings in restaurants.

 

Earlier reports said at least 20 dead, but some outlets are now reporting more than 40

 

Ongoing hostage situation at the Bataclan theatre - up to a hundred people are thought to be inside

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34814203

 

Explosion near Stade de France was audible on the TV coverage of the France-Germany match https://twitter.com/ArsenalTerje/status/665285613961244673

[spooky lynx 73]

Shit... What's happening there? I've read about both shooting and explosions.

[vilas@o2.pl 2]

Shit... What's happening there? I've read about both shooting and explosions.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/paris-muslims-screaming-allahu-akbar-murder-at-least-35-take-100-hostages

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/death-toll-now-60-in-paris-jihad-massacre

[sudayev 27]

Scale of this attack is many times bigger than the attack on Charlie Hebdo. Moreover there approximately 100 people taken as hostages. President Hollande has been evacuated.

 

This is very sad, but ISIS have dragged the war directly to France. 

 

I wonder when Western countries will realize that weakening authoritarian regimes of Northern Africa and Middle East and replacing them with crawling muslim barbarism was a terrible idea. 

[Tonci87 163]

France has closed its borders.....

[sudayev 27]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11995227/Paris-shooting-Many-feared-dead-live.html

 

live reports + video feed

[Heeeere's johnny! 51]

As of 14 November 2015, 0:10 GMT:

• 3 explosions in Paris (two explosions roughly 16 and 20 minutes into the football match Germany vs. France)
  • Avenue Jules Rimet (in front of Stade de France)
  • Métro-Goncourt
  • Boulevard Voltaire corner Passage Saint-Pierre Amelot
  • 35+ dead
  • police confirmed: at least one explosion was a suicide bomber
• 6+ shooting scenes, including the shopping mall "Les Halles" and the square "Place de la République"
• 60-100 hostages taken in concert hall "Bataclan"
  • police stormed the hall
  • two assassins were killed
  • an unknown number of hostages were killed
• president François Hollande declared emergency rules in France as a whole (not only Paris) and closed France's borders
• german football team is still in the stadium
• several subway stations closed, some tracks will stay closed the next days
• schools and universities in Greater Paris stay closed this Saturday (in France, School is Monday, Tuesday, Thursday-Saturday)
• unconfirmed rumours:
  • reportedly two dark-dressed, not-masked young men shooting with AKs in concert hall "Bataclan"
  • reportedly one of the shooters shouted "C'est pour la Syrie" ("That's for Syria") (France is bombing ISIS camps in Syria)
  • reportedly two assassins are still on the run

[spooky lynx 73]

France has closed its borders.....

Too late, there're plenty of potential cannon fodder already living in France or even having citizenship.

[sudayev 27]

Apocalyptic scenes in theater. A Massacre :/

 

Rumors about stadium attacks aimed at football players originally. 

[sanctuary 19]

Those poor people just trying to live their everyday life, and a few assholes come in and murder them...

 

Everytime a terrorist attack happen in France (and it's not new, it's been like that since more than thirty years), once the authors are known, it appears they were already on listings from the authorities as being linked to various terrorism groups ... everytime, it's never people that are unknown from french services.

 

That list of people they all come from is apparently made of +/- 1800 individuals on french ground, they're not hidden, they're free to move.

 

Can't believe after all those years my country government is still not getting rid of those people, and their only reaction is when those terrorists finally decide to make their move and murder people.

It's not like there are no anti terrorism laws here to put those terrorists in training guys in prison before they act, as we even have "apology for terrorism" as a recognized crime to send people to jail.

[Rydygier 1309]

 

 

- you want sharia ?

- yes

- you want to live in islamic law country ?

- yes

- so why the hell you left such country?

- ekhmmm 

 

 

AFAIK, according to them all the Earth is a possession of Allah, which basically means, it rightfully belongs to the muslims - they just reach for what's their by their faith. Or something like that. This would explain the attitude of the most of immigrants, this would explain horrible acts, they do, like these recent, and this bodes escalation till some people here, in Europe, finally open their eyes and learn some things, sadly now only in the hard way, hopefully before will be too late. I'm affraid, it's not a coincidence, so all those acts of terror and all this barbarism and hate is done by people of certain culture (sic!) and mentality, just that's the way their religion, their faith works with such kind of minds. Things like poverty, greedy fingers of great empires or cruelty of local wars are only the amplifiers, boosters. 

[vilas 477]

Scale of this attack is many times bigger than the attack on Charlie Hebdo. Moreover there approximately 100 people taken as hostages. President Hollande has been evacuated.

 

This is very sad, but ISIS have dragged the war directly to France. 

 

I wonder when Western countries will realize that weakening authoritarian regimes of Northern Africa and Middle East and replacing them with crawling muslim barbarism was a terrible idea. 

 

ad3 ) they will not understand, maybe in 2030 ;)

they do not understand one can respect right of wolf and sheep at one time, because wolf do eat sheeps,

when you have farm with chickens, geese, pigs and wolf come to attack it, and you are resposible farmer - you have rifle and you know how to protect,

left wing says you should have rifle taken away by police and pay for wolf fundation ;)

they will not understand, their tolleance and left wing will kill them, and will kill others too , cause they feed wolves on territory of sheeps, worst of all is that west rather like to arrest for "racism" those who want to save Europe,

west acts like suicidal tendencies insane person,

when you try to save their life - they call you nazi, racist etc.

and such attacks will be more and more often,

in few years i see Europe following:

- sharia patrols attacking people

- locals being arrested for "racism" by left wing government,

- more Breiviks from underground,

- more sharia attacks

- civil war with islam and than who wins ? for sure not freedom, but winner will be either caliphate or new hitler (because natives will radicalize and vote or simply NWO dicature will hit and make Europe like Year 1984 Orwell book)

 

 

ad2) ISIS attacked cause France bombed ISIS , next target will be Russia,

in ca 2025-2030 there will be civil war in Europe, young muslims will than be adult, without job, families with 5 kids that don't work, our old people retired , social care system and pension system bankrupt, drones and robots replacing human in work, but families of 5 kids of low qualified angry religious people will start riots,

worst of all is that than in 2030 west will have to choose between new Hitler or Sharia law, and all democracy, freedoms, social system will die because of their tollerance and left wing,

[vilas 477]

Th

 

Everytime a terrorist attack happen in France (and it's not new, it's been like that since more than thirty years), once the authors are known, it appears they were already on listings from the authorities as being linked to various terrorism groups ... everytime, it's never people that are unknown from french services.

 

That list of people they all come from is apparently made of +/- 1800 individuals on french ground, they're not hidden, they're free to move.

 

Can't believe after all those years my country government is still not getting rid of those people

 

heh, because it is like that when left wing rule special services

if those jihad radicals are always known, they should be arrested first day after saying "Sharia must be set"

and kept like US do with Guantanamo

tollerance to jihad and sharia preachers will always end like this, always,

you cannot be tollerant to wolf when you are sheep , wolfs eat sheep, sheep must be armed and disable wolf to survive , if you not understand it, you will be eaten, it is you or them - tertitum non datur

left wing will not allow to defend your country

if you want peace, your authorities must eliminate those who praise jihad, those who demand sharia,

the same to other countries

nowadays in UK hate preaching immams still call to set Sharia in UK and noone jails them, they live from benefits - cause it is Jazyia - tax paid by infidels , they do not work, have 5 kids and demand sharia

if west doesn't eliminate them - your faith is known, just lets wait for year 2025, 2030

beofre that left wing will try to arrest and sentence "nazis, racists"

after this year natives will be nazis and racists themsleves - if not prevented now, to prevent raise of new Hitler Europe must act now, but this cannot be "lets be more tollerant, more multiculti", this must be opposite to stop those who come here to spread jihad and turn globe into world caliphate

jokes in my country say that main steet of Oslo in 2030 will be named of Breivik

http://niezalezna.pl/72901-terrorysci-ubogacili-kulturowo-paryz-strzelanina-bomby-zakladnicy-wiele-smiertelnych-ofiar

my country press say "terrorists enriched culturally Paris"

people in comments demand to ban build mosques

thanx god we do not have political correctness censorship here,

majority of those comments in Germany or Sweden would cause arrest by left wing police for "racism" although it is not about skin color, it is about religion (sharia patrol in London had native convert)

http://wpolityce.pl/swiat/271757-polska-musi-zachowac-pelna-kontrole-nad-swoimi-granicami-nad-polityka-azylowa-i-migracyjna

new Polish government - we do not see possibility to take refugees seeing this - no muslims here !!!

http://wpolityce.pl/polityka/271759-czas-przyjac-do-wiadomosci-ze-wojna-cywilizacji-trwa-doprowadzily-do-niej-lewackie-ideologie-jedyny-ratunek-to-silna-tozsamosc-i-madra-asertywnosc

"this is war of civilisations this is caused by leftists, only salvation is strong national identity"

 

another important thing - president of Iran refuesed to meet President of France cause wine was served and food was not halal - our press reported it

[vilas 477]

AFAIK, according to them all the Earth is a possession of Allah, which basically means, it rightfully belongs to the muslims - they just reach for what's their by their faith. Or something like that. This would explain the attitude of the most of immigrants, this would explain horrible acts, they do, like these recent, and this bodes escalation till some people here, in Europe, finally open their eyes and learn some things, sadly now only in the hard way, hopefully before will be too late. I'm affraid, it's not a coincidence, so all those acts of terror and all this barbarism and hate is done by people of certain culture (sic!) and mentality, just that's the way their religion, their faith works with such kind of minds. Things like poverty, greedy fingers of great empires or cruelty of local wars are only the amplifiers, boosters. 

exactly

but on poverty i have other theory - i do not buy poverty, it is also mentality, there are people who study hard and learn to better job when they are poor, there are people who simply fertilize (in migrant topic i shown data from Africa,

when Europe had 10% population growth from 1970, Africa has 300%)

 

 

you want sharia ?

- yes

- you want to live in islamic law country ?

- yes

- so why the hell you left such country?

- ekhmmm

heheh

----

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/salon-paris-jihad-massacre-shows-that-right-wing-needs-to-moderate-their-rhetoric

eh

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/guardian-after-paris-jihad-far-right-groups-may-well-fuel-more-hatred

they will never understand before it is too late - this is war of civilisations, secular civilsation which want to have good life vs civilisation that believes in life after life but to gain it they must destroy others (us)

http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1356,title,Dzihadysci-opublikowali-wideo-Groza-kolejnymi-atakami-we-Francji,wid,17973132,wiadomosc.html

jihadists threaten to do more attacks

[Rydygier 1309]

I've read some comments of people living there, and one thing is striking - emanating from them resignation and hopelessness, defeatism, completely absurdal in the current circumstancies. They're like already defeated in their minds, no any will to change thing for better, just escape to save theirselves or despair. Pure fatalism. Compare to USA after WTC. 

 

That's, what France bacame in its own eyes? Neutered corpse just lying and waiting for death? What's politicians are saying is one thing, but the essence is the will, the mentality of the Frenchmen. So how it looks really now? 

[vilas 477]

I've read some comments of people living there, and one thing is striking - emanating from them resignation and hopelessness, defeatism, completely absurdal in the current circumstancies. They're like already defeated in their minds, no any will to change thing for better, just escape to save theirselves or despair. Pure fatalism. Compare to USA after WTC.

 

yes it is opposite

when i am hit - i want to strike back with double force

they don't

if i am hit - i am mobilized to revenge

Polish comments on internet "close all mosques now" , French/German comment "we cannot marginalize poor victims muslims"

but question is what should be now revenge after those attacks ?

reaction of USA after 9/11 was great - wipe Taliban from earth (Taliban won in A-stan they had support of people, locals wanted them opposite to socialistic secular dictator )

now USA shakes hand with Taliban as only power in A-stan :(

arrest all jihadists, immams ?

striking ISIS but ISIS is result of what local population wants (democracy) opposite to more tolerant and moderate dictators

this is problem - because movements like ISIS are not 1% extreme without any support - those people in that civilisation want sharia and believe in jihad,

we cannot educate all Middle East to become secular or convert to Christianity

also US/west should not invade them in past, also colonies should never happen, also corporations must be stopped

we must work on alternative fuel, we should close borders and return refugees let they fight against ISIS in their homes, we can even arm them (of course with low-tech, of course on credit),

when alternative energy is ready, we can wave good buy to theocracies and in 10 years they return to middle ages, waiting till those people will want to live in secular states - can take ages (immams, government, feudal owners, kings will not give up easy cause they will lost all power and money they have ), we do not have ages, before they will raise to live in secular modern state having 1 kid , they will turn us into what Middle East or Africa is nowadays

 

second general today says that mulitculti is failure (http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1329,title,Gen-Polko-zgineli-wykonawcy-jednak-nadal-bezkarni-sa-organizatorzy-zamachu-we-Francji,wid,17973058,wiadomosc.html?ticaid=115f0f cause tody all commanders of our special forces are asked by journalists)

general says that those who organized it are without conesequences, only consequences have those who participated in this , 30% young muslims support jihad says general (according to his sources, he was commander of unit GROM - our "Delta Six")

general Skrzypczak blaims USA for removing Quadafi and also blaims multiculti ( http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1329,title,Gen-Skrzypczak-wszystko-rozpoczelo-sie-od-najazdu-Amerykanow-na-Panstwo-al-Kaddafiego,wid,17973158,wiadomosc.html)

 

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/german-police-arrest-muslim-linked-to-paris-jihad-attacks-had-guns-explosives-hand-grenades

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/london-gatwick-airport-terminal-evacuated-police-arrest-man-with-grenade-in-his-bag

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/you-will-not-live-in-peace-islamic-state-warns-france-in-new-video

 

west should understand that our values and freedoms are not comaptible with islam and islam is not comaptible with us, coexistence is not possible, things we call good they call adultery that must be punished, things we call crime they call just and good, those are 2 opposite civilisations, our beliefs are opposite , they will try fight for their believes , many of us (maybe not in west) will fight for our beliefs

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/11/14/paris-muslim-attackers-still-on-the-loose-uk-prepares-for-upcoming-mass-casualties/

[Rydygier 1309]

Yeah, now I would kinda expect after this shameful period of "sham actions" a real, coordinated land offensive against IS, but indeed, the real question stays, even if IS defeated, what then with the region? Who would fill the emptiness after ISIS? Someone will. Is there anyone in power willing to reach the very root of the Middle East problems? Or at least bold enough to define it? 

[vilas 477]

http://niezalezna.pl/72909-mocne-slowa-waszczykowskiego-po-zamachach-juz-slysze-dyskusje-tego-oszalalego-lewactwa

new government Polish minister of foreign affairs "i see discussion of mad leftists already"

"europe had only half effort to destroy ISIS which has ambitions to make war of civilisations"

"i hear since morning mad leftists saying it is we who are guilty, it is west guilty for not good life conditions for frustrated migrants, and that if they take AK or Shahida belt - it is our guilt, blaming yourself is dead end street"

"we cannot take any waves of migrants, we must check identity and they should proove they suffered as minority to be called refugee"

 

europe should not discuss about destroying ISIS but actualy destroy ISIS and any other caliphates

problem may be with Saudis who also are theocracy, Iran, how they would react,

europe should not support Assad oposition who is simply jihad too,

 

problems of middle east is other system of beliefs,

what we do when we do not have good conditions ? we study, learn, work harder - to get more ,

europe since 1970 has 10% population growth

Africa has 300%, they have poverty and they have several kids, Middle East and Asia doubled population,

it is problem (similar to problems of many poor big families in Poland, when low educated unemployed or junk-job people decide to have 3, 5 kids and they beg for food later),

i know such families (native Poles) too who instead of think - have another child next year and they earn 300 euro and woman is pregnant every year and those kids suffer malnutrition , this is simply other way of thinking, that is even present in our culture too, just here it is 1% ("jakos to będzie" = "god will help us i am sure"),

in other culture people do not care but say with optimism "god will help" etc.

i am happy we have new government and i hope new government will prevent such things here, if something like this happened here - i cannot imagine our reaction

the worst is that Islamic Leaguge and Islamic Brotherhood - funded by saudi money - are already active here in Poland, the fact is that we have less than 1% of muslims, but since 2013 immams say that Sharia should be implemented here as well

and those immams are free - if i was in gov. i would ordered to arrest such immam after such interview the same day he said, the same day he would be in arrest

now question how much we can expect arrest of jihadists ?

3 weeks ago 700 muslims marched in Demnark demanding to set Sharia Law in Denmark - all was tollerated and okay, i wonder will it still be tollerated that other culture demands to change host culture and demands change natives,

even if such radicals are just 5% among them - do they help to fight radicals ? do they report to police "hi, my brother is jihadist  he said he want to murder infidels" do they do it ? or after march of 700 jihadists only reaction is "nothing happened, we must raise benefits cause they need more money so we should resign from new car and pay bigger tax" if this attitude will not change, in 2025, 2030 it will be too late, there will be than caliphate or hitler choice - both wrong choices

it is like with cancer - if you not cut small piece of body with cancer - cancer will kill you , waiting is wrong

 

http://wpolityce.pl/polityka/271774-tylko-we-wsieci-wazny-wywiad-z-misjonarzem-z-bliskiego-wschodu-islam-rzadzi-ale-nie-moze-byc-rzadzony-to-najwazniejsza-w-nim-zasada-polecamy

interview with Catholic monk - who lived abroad - "islam want to rule but cannot accept other ruling this is for them most important "

 

http://wpolityce.pl/swiat/271786-kolejni-terrorysci-w-drodze-do-paryza-samochod-sforsowal-bramki-na-autostradzie-a1-w-srodku-jest-czterech-uzbrojonych-po-zeby-mezczyzn

another attempt - another jihadists in France, police race,

open all doors no control - revenges itself

[fn_Quiksilver 1636]

AFAIK, according to them all the Earth is a possession of Allah, which basically means, it rightfully belongs to the muslims - they just reach for what's their by their faith. Or something like that. This would explain the attitude of the most of immigrants, this would explain horrible acts, they do, like these recent, and this bodes escalation till some people here, in Europe, finally open their eyes and learn some things, sadly now only in the hard way, hopefully before will be too late. I'm affraid, it's not a coincidence, so all those acts of terror and all this barbarism and hate is done by people of certain culture (sic!) and mentality, just that's the way their religion, their faith works with such kind of minds. Things like poverty, greedy fingers of great empires or cruelty of local wars are only the amplifiers, boosters. 

 

Unfortunately the global marxist ideology has been the theme of our public school teaching for the past 25 years.

 

So,

 

A) There isn't seen a problem with redistributing money from the global wealthy to the global poor.

 

• What right the wealthy nation has to its wealth, we're all in this together
• One Earth
• Brotherly Love of thy neighbor
• Limited resources
• Probably attained wealth through exploitation of the poor
• From each...

 

B) The main problems are managing the PR and resistance movements to this.

 

• "Oh noes, this [migrant issue] will cause the rise of nationalism"
• "Right wing will get a big boost from this issue, oh noes!!"
• "How do we manage the opinion to make people like them"

 

C) Any solution will be a global marxist solution.

 

• "Any boundaries / laws / borders / rules separating wealthy and poor must be undermined and destroyed."
• "These borders and laws are the real problem, not the millions of Syrian doctors and engineers walking in from all over Asia and Africa"
• "Borders are the problem"