Iraq (current news/events)

[mistyronin 1181]

This is a joke :D ,the same who created ISIS maybe ?

Islamic extremists financed with Arabian money?

I don't think Russia would fly C130. The US would never use them as bombers, would send proper jets. So Iranians, Syrians or Iraqi seem to be the most probable.

[Xalteva 10]

Islamic extremists financed with Arabian money?

I don't think Russia would fly C130. The US would never use them as bombers, would send proper jets. So Iranians, Syrians or Iraqi seem to be the most probable.

The "no one knows who" applies to who ? certainly not to US or Russia !

[negah 26]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28240140

Iraq has warned the UN that Sunni militants have seized nuclear materials used for scientific research at a university in the city of Mosul.

"These nuclear materials, despite the limited amounts mentioned, can enable terrorist groups, with the availability of the required expertise, to use it separately or in combination with other materials in its terrorist acts,"

I guess the rebels would be able to make "dirty bombs" now.

[Sgt.Spoetnik 10]

Question is; where did these 40klg came from and didn the US and Nato defeated saddam because he whas secretly working on a nuclear bomb or device, but nothing whas found same with chemical weapons ,but now ISIS finds all over the place chemical weapons and 40klg of uranium only for them to grab and to do who knows what with.

Yesterday they found heaps off chemical arty rounds and the uranium, this with every money in the vaults in the national bank in mosul, and hardware of every army unit in the area that deserted,these guys have a nice stock going and can use it 2,

[spooky lynx 73]

( Vice News ) Someone Is Launching Airstrikes on Iraq, But No One Knows Who

Looked at the video showing 'new' Iraqi Frogfoots... Well, it seems like they finally arrived back home after Desert storm escape in Iran:)

[mistyronin 1181]

Looked at the video showing 'new' Iraqi Frogfoots... Well, it seems like they finally arrived back home after Desert storm escape in Iran:)

Yeah, it seems they were on holidays :cool: ( for a quarter of a century )

[vilas 477]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28381455 < religion of peace

[Xalteva 10]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28381455 < religion of peace

Those guys are most likely a mix of released criminals and PMCs like Blackwater (can explain the huge number of western guys in it) paid by saudi arabia and uae to destroy the Iraqi revolution ! you gonna ask me why ? saudi arabia and uae don't want people seeing successful revolutions in the area,that will put them and their thrones in danger and make them lose allies too,that's why they inject those terrorist organizations in each rebellion to turn them into civil wars ! those guys even supported the coup in Egypt and helped removing a democratically voted president and governement ... Egypt is now becoming a second north korea !

The mess in the middle east is far from being religious ! religion is just a false flag with a lot of interests behind ;) ,if ISIS was a real threat,they would have destroyed it a long time ago ... think about it !

[ProfTournesol 956]

I disagree. It's obviously a religious proxy war between Wahhabi Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran.

Edited July 19, 2014 by ProfTournesol

[vilas 477]

if ISIS was a real threat,they would have destroyed it a long time ago ... think about it !

so they are not threat ? cause i seen a lot of movies how they ride city and shoot to anyone who is wearing euro-us-style clothes,

i seen movies of ISIS fighters (recorded by them) where they move in car across Iraqi street and shoot to people wearing jeans, t-shirt shouting "Allah Akbar"

such movies are recorded by ISIS guys themselvs, with religious music,

people who not wear traditional religious clothes are being shot from AK on the street, usual Iraqi pedestrians on Iraqi town,

if this is not religious why they shoot to one branch (Sheets vs Sunnis) ?

why they are not destroyed long ago ?

cause they have local undeducated people support , local people who want state to be not secular,

the same is in Catholic church

if someone would ask my r.i.p. grandma and gave her right to decide than:

- people would be force to eat fish on friday,

- short skirts would be forbidden,

- condoms and counter pregancy pills would be forbidden,

- 10% tax for church

is my grandma payed by Vatican ? no, she simply believes that people should live in middleages , noone pays her, it is her who pay every penny she has to priest, and than begs for money for food, cause all retire pension she already gave on church

if ISIS is false flag operation of someone - than why so many local people support them ?

why all people not fight them ? why it is again conflict of Sunnis vs Sheets ? what was fault of people that were shot down on the street of Iraqi town that they were wearing jeans and t-shirt ?

if you seen such movies at least, cause i have seen such movies and those movies are horrible, few ISIS guys drive in jeep and shoot from AK anyone spoted on the street who doesn't wear traditional clothes (reminds violence between music subcultures when skinhead attack punk, punk attack skinhead, disco fan attack metalhead, football hooligan attack rasta-wear etc etc)

[Xalteva 10]

Yeah, i saw those HD movies and their high quality reports ,and also their puppet imam recorded in a mosque with 360° cameras all around ,wearing his black suit and his 9000$ rolex watch ... i am not muslim,so if i wear a black suit and start killing people in the streets with a sword and saying allhu akbar ,i will be a muslim ?? and what locals are you talking about ? you are taking tribes for ISIS ! because, they have maybe some nice propaganda ,but on the ground tribes alliance is holding a bigger territory !

And no,you are wrong about your grandma ! because people in general want to keep religion something private ... political forces want to control religion and religious people ! it was the case with the church that raised christianity as a false flag to dominate people and protect monarchy so they can profit from it ... if you have done your researches and stopped watching movies,you would have known that the same thing is happening in muslim countries ! the religious field is highly controlled and ministries are created just for that particular reason ! there is no place for any other ideologies let alone extremism,they follow the "religion" of the state the religion that glorifies the ruler and protects him and gives him all powers ... for example in saudi arabia,you don't have the right to be anything other than wahabi not even spread ideas of other islamic branches ! it's about control , extremists are created by political powers and are given resources to achieve their goals !

@ProfTournesol

It would be so indulgent to think otherwise (at least for me) ! wahhabites represent only 2 - 3 % of muslims ... and according to my researches! conflicts between Shia and sunna were very rare before the 21st century !

Edited July 19, 2014 by Xalteva

[ProfTournesol 956]

Wahhabi aren't numerous obviously but are very influent in the Sunni world, and are trying to gain more and more influence to counter growing Iran power.

[Xalteva 10]

Wahhabi aren't numerous obviously but are very influent in the Sunni world, and are trying to gain more and more influence to counter growing Iran power.

Well,yes but using vicious means ;)

But honestly,wherever there is oil or some fancy resource,there are extremist groups (Mali,Lybia,Nigeria,Iraq,Sudan) ... come on we're not that stupid ! even African extremists were updated to the latest standards by adding the Islamic touch :D : BOKO HARAM ! African countries had always civil wars while international companies were stealing their fancy metals ... these religious/civil wars conflicts are what we're wanted to see ! but no one knows what's happening in the background ;) ! Kurdistan has already taken many oil fields in Iraq and is discussing with Turkish governement about future collaboration, ISIS has taken some too ... a magician always tries to focus your attention on one hand while he is doing his tricks with the other !

Edited July 19, 2014 by Xalteva

[maturin 12]

I disagree. It's obviously a religious proxy war between Wahhabi Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran.

ISIS is the product a proxy war involving Saudi Arabia, but at this point the Saudis would very much like to see ISIS destroyed. Just like the US regrets fostering the Taliban, the British regret the Muslim Brotherhood and Israel rues the day it supported the creation of Hamas.

[mistyronin 1181]

Not the best News resource, but:

( Yahoo News ) World alarm grows over IS onslaught in Iraq

United Nations (United States) (AFP) - The UN Security Council called an emergency meeting Thursday on the crisis sparked by the advance of Islamic State fighters who seized Iraq's largest Christian town, driving tens of thousands from their homes.

Should be around this moment.

At UN headquarters in New York, France requested the urgent talks set to begin at 5:30 pm (2130 GMT).

[mistyronin 1181]

( BBC ) Obama authorises air strikes on Iraq

[sudayev 27]

New vICE materials

The Spread of the Caliphate: The Islamic State (Part 1)

Grooming Children for Jihad: The Islamic State (Part 2)

3 parts to come.

[Dwarden 1125]

there are worse news , like beheading children of Kurds, Christians and other minorities in Mosul areas ...

it's sadly confirmed news same as mass raping and executing women who refuse to accept theirs fanatical religion and marry martyr ...

crucifixion of infidels with public display are now confirmed too

info about captured woman being sold to slave market are also now confirmed as true

[vilas 477]

"i was saying it before" ;)

i should not say more, cause i could produce 1000 lines post with 100 links,\

but they even forbid music, cause when you dance or listen to music like rock, they also want to kill you,

burning faces by acid for taking photo etc.

[sudayev 27]

They are the new taliban, such things as described above happened already in Afghanistan. Arming any "rebel" groups in muslim countries is the most stupid idea, because everytime they get armed they are prone to extreme muslim teachings and sooner or later they turn against their former suppliers.

Just look, the taliban in Afghanistan were former anti soviet rebels supoported by the USA. Eventually they turned against the US. Now in Syria, that naive socialist Obama who thinks there are "mild groups" and because of that he provides them with training by CIA best men in the region and deadly equipment such as TOW missiles. This is so naive to think there are mild groups. Arabs are smart and they are masters when it comes to deceiving, simply using their "mild face" to get advanced weapons and support to eventually show their extremist faces later on and turn against everything what civilized world stays for.

[vilas 477]

sad is life of people in that region :(

[mistyronin 1181]

They are the new taliban, such things as described above happened already in Afghanistan.

I'd say they are worst, even Al Qaeda refused them for being too extremists.

[sudayev 27]

I'd say they are worst, even Al Qaeda refused them for being too extremists.

I heard that. Don't know how much influential is Al Qaeda is nowdays, but the OLD Al Qaeda with Bin Laden, Zarqawi and Mulla Omar would have approved methods used by ISIL.

[mistyronin 1181]

I heard that. Don't know how much influential is Al Qaeda is nowdays, but the OLD Al Qaeda with Bin Laden, Zarqawi and Mulla Omar would have approved methods used by ISIL.

Well technically IS ( the former ISIL, and even before ISI ) was the representative of Al Qaeda in Iraq back in the 2000's, but later IS wanted to go even more "extreme" and there were even clashes between Al Qaeda and ISI already in 2006.

Anyway they are a bunch of the worst kind of fanatics you can find. And can provoke a lot of damage if they are not stopped at time ( in fact they are already doing ).

[sudayev 27]

Enforcing Sharia in Raqqa: The Islamic State (Part 3)