kilrbe3 37 Posted February 3, 2013 (edited) I am in absolute shock right now , and very sad :( He was one of the greatest men that I have never met, but read about. His book was so inspiring, and moved me, this is just a heart breaker right now & tear dropper. Mr. Kyle was/is one of most decorated idols in my mind after I read his book, and researched more into him. This is a tragic loss to a great man, soldier and father & wife. Taya must be completely crushed right now, and so loss. She moved me even more sometimes than Chris did when reading his book. RIP Chief Chris Kyle :*( I will give any and all support I can if something arises to this great fallen comrade. RIP. Source: http://sofrep.com/16838/chris-kyle-another-brother-lost/ Edited February 3, 2013 by KilrBe3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Charles 22 Posted February 3, 2013 Why'd you go to a shooting range with PTSD veterans However, my condolences to the family and friends. Seen him on Conan :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hillsbills 1 Posted February 3, 2013 A lot of vets shoot as a way to counter PTSD, this story stinks in more ways than one though. There were calls for his death in this country as well as in Iraq. http://mynameisjoecortina.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/open-letter-to-war-criminal-chris-kyle-worlds-worst-human-being-august-2012/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted February 3, 2013 A lot of vets shoot as a way to counter PTSD, this story stinks in more ways than one though. There were calls for his death in this country as well as in Iraq. http://mynameisjoecortina.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/open-letter-to-war-criminal-chris-kyle-worlds-worst-human-being-august-2012/ Wow, that's one raving lunatic. :eek: (The blog author I mean, not Chris Kyle.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jefferspang 2 Posted February 4, 2013 A lot of vets shoot as a way to counter PTSD, this story stinks in more ways than one though. There were calls for his death in this country as well as in Iraq. http://mynameisjoecortina.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/open-letter-to-war-criminal-chris-kyle-worlds-worst-human-being-august-2012/ I'm pretty sure that's a failed satire writer, seriously why are some people so attention starved??? Anyway, this has been a real rough couple of months for the entire SOF community at home considering just a month ago there was the tragic incident at the Show of Support parade float. RIP Chris Kyle, gone but never forgotten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hillsbills 1 Posted February 4, 2013 No satire, most of his rantings are Antisemitism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mihikle 2 Posted February 4, 2013 People in the UK that have been diagnosed with PTSD can never touch any kind of weapon again. Unfortunately it seems the US doesn't have the same policy:confused: RIP to Chris and my condolences to his family and friends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beagle 684 Posted February 4, 2013 ...Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword (Matthew 26:52) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisb 196 Posted February 5, 2013 Yes, contentious issue this. Reported around 120 kills, very impressive, a hero or idol of some type!, maybe even a role model to some, who knows! But the people he killed of course could also have been hero’s, idols, role models etc themselves, to the people who supported them. Its really all down to where you come from and your views on conflict throughout the world in general.. Its sad when anyone dies, condolences must be sent to his family, also to the families of all the people he killed.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hillsbills 1 Posted February 5, 2013 Well they went there to die in Jihad, kudos to him for helping them. People in the UK that have been diagnosed with PTSD can never touch any kind of weapon again. Unfortunately it seems the US doesn't have the same policy:confused: RIP to Chris and my condolences to his family and friends. We have people still serving who have PTSD, how does that work over there? Boot them out or do they go on patrol with no weapon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mihikle 2 Posted February 5, 2013 We have people still serving who have PTSD, how does that work over there? Boot them out or do they go on patrol with no weapon? They will put them on a desk job if it is very mild (and I mean very mild) however if it is more than that they will be booted out basically. Our country is only coming to realize PTSD is an actual 'illness', back in the 80's they got "sent to a special place in Wales" which although may have helped, the 'illness' was seen as a major sign of weakness and cowardice, hence why still people don't own up to having PTSD. Although luckily in the past 7-8 years the situation has started to change with the MoD urging potential patients to come forward as soon as possible. Hopefully this situation is getting better :) Why never touch a weapon? Well my friend developed PTSD in Afghanistan, and to prove my case: Without thinking, when re-assembling a pistol, accidentally loaded a magazine and fired a shot off, nearly taking out his mates knee. No fault of his, it's just something that can happen when developed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggyluv 2136 Posted February 5, 2013 Yep, PTSD is no joke. One of my buddies joined and fought (and killed) in Iraq because he was young and pissed off after 911. After a while, he says he became disillusioned because he felt the guys he was killing weren't extremists, just poor people who joined extremist miltias because the US had occupied it's soil and felt he would have done the same if the US was being occupied by another country. He's an amateur MMA fighter now but has real problems controlling his aggression in sparring when a switch goes off in his head and he literally tries to knock the block off sparring partners so he gets repeatedly kicked off the team. Most of the time he's pretty chill and amiable but you can feel when his mood just shifts hard and everyone basically just stays away from him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mihikle 2 Posted February 5, 2013 They say it's worse than a physical injury... would say I have to agree from what I've heard! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beagle 684 Posted February 5, 2013 You don't need to go into a war and fight for PTSD...I dropped out of Fire department service because of it...After I saw too much young women die in car accident while we tried to cut them out of the wrecks....and I still cant control my agression burst 20 years later...went triough divorce after my wife could not emndure it anymore. PTSD is not exclusive to veterans...but today it is more accepted for veterans to suffer from it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MissionCreep 12 Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) They say it's worse than a physical injury... would say I have to agree from what I've heard! I read an article that says that medical experts are coming to realize more and more that cases lumped in as "PTSD" are actually due to brain injury ... concussions from explosions (eg from IEDs, shells, grenades, heavy weapons) can cause physical brain/neurological trauma that may not be visible or even noticed by people at the time. Its effects only start appearing later on. Edited February 5, 2013 by MissionCreep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scrim 1 Posted February 5, 2013 Are they from 1918? That's pretty much what they thought back then, and it's quite debunked seeing as how veterans have suffered from PTSD despite not being subjected to much explosives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nodunit 397 Posted February 5, 2013 Highly doubt trauma in most of these cases means literal physical impact but rather something you hear or worse, see. Watching a person, a REAL person is something that will change you psychologically one way or another, it gets worse when you see the after effects such as family, or some other emotional connection. I can't really imagine what it must be like, nevermind feel like to see many people die with the underlying thoughts that you were the cause. Either because you forced their hand or because you couldn't save them in time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mihikle 2 Posted February 7, 2013 I read an article that says that medical experts are coming to realize more and more that cases lumped in as "PTSD" are actually due to brain injury ... concussions from explosions (eg from IEDs, shells, grenades, heavy weapons) can cause physical brain/neurological trauma that may not be visible or even noticed by people at the time. Its effects only start appearing later on. It sounds plausible, I can only speak from the people I know that have it, but both the people got it from dragging injured mangled friends from IED blasts, could possibly be because of concussion etc however they never said them themselves was hit by the blast at all, just that they had to drag their mates out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horner 13 Posted February 10, 2013 Terrible thing to hear about him, never did a whole lot of research on him but I found this interesting thing about him. A little off topic, but, Apparently Chris Kyle was born and raised in Odessa, Texas. And he would have been just old enough to be a freshman on the 1988 Permian High School Football Team (the football team from "Friday Night Lights"). I wonder if he went to that school and maybe if he was on the team (he was definitely badass enough). Mysteries.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakerod 254 Posted February 12, 2013 Terrible thing to hear about him, never did a whole lot of research on him but I found this interesting thing about him.A little off topic, but, Apparently Chris Kyle was born and raised in Odessa, Texas. And he would have been just old enough to be a freshman on the 1988 Permian High School Football Team (the football team from "Friday Night Lights"). I wonder if he went to that school and maybe if he was on the team (he was definitely badass enough). Mysteries.... I'm guessing not. I think it would've been mentioned. Although I guess he isn't even listed here so I suppose that is a possibility. A 1992 graduate of Midlothian High School LA Times (Source) I guess that answers that. Still doesn't mean he couldn't have been on the team (he might have transferred schools). However, I do feel it would be mentioned somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amra 10 Posted June 18, 2013 This post made me read his book and I'm glad he got what he deserved. Burn in hell, Chris Kyle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Charles 22 Posted June 18, 2013 Why do you have such a low opinion of him? Surely, he wasn't a hero, but what makes him so evil in your mind? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scrim 1 Posted June 18, 2013 This post made me read his book and I'm glad he got what he deserved. Burn in hell, Chris Kyle. And goodbye to you, little nasty man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amra 10 Posted June 18, 2013 Why do you have such a low opinion of him? Surely, he wasn't a hero, but what makes him so evil in your mind? Well it's in his book. He is almost illiterate narrow-minded man which came to Iraq to kill people who defend their country and call them "savages". In fact he is a savage. With reasonings of a 5 y.o. child and great pride of what he did. And goodbye to you, little nasty man. Get lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRS 10 Posted June 19, 2013 Well it's in his book. He is almost illiterate narrow-minded man which came to Iraq to kill people who defend their country and call them "savages". In fact he is a savage. With reasonings of a 5 y.o. child and great pride of what he did.Get lost. The irony. It is almost unbearable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites