USA News Censored

[walker 0]

Hi all

The dark days are comming.

In the US only Google has had the courage to stand up to the powers that realy control America.

This story is in the news across the world but not in the USA. Where the police and departments of Government are ordering the takedown of videos that record police brutality or are critical of government.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2055207/Google-refuses-official-requests-YouTube-videos-police-brutality.html

As you can see one of the reasons that news is censored in the US is "Government Criticism"

http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests/US/?p=2011-06&t=CONTENT_REMOVAL_REQUEST

My hope is that if enough people link to the Google page the US media will grow a pair.

Worried walker

Edited November 8, 2011 by walker
added direct source link

[ACPL Jon 68]

63 % accepted if I read it good... which is a really big percent.

Imagine things like

removed... no evidence, no crime, right?

No things to defend you against the authorities. You guys are f..ked, and sadly, we can be next.

[Beagle 684]

I just discussed that with my parents yesterday and brought up the theory that the turnaround in the german democratic republic would never have happened if the same measures had been applied by the very hesitant regimen back in 1990. They knew they could not take massive actions because the big russian brother did not really care and the whole world was watching.

Think about that and judge in what kind of system we life in now.

Edited November 8, 2011 by Beagle

[jblackrupert 14]

So the fake Anarchists and Marxists [Along with a few skateboard kiddies at malls]campaign of baiting the cops is working.

Now if they would only apply that dedication to a J.O.B they might get somewhere other then the front page of youtube.

Edit: That Seattle Cock on the walk cop video above was released by the Police themselves. It was not leaked.

If that was my family member shot like that, I'd put lead in that cops head and let a jury sort it out.

Edited November 8, 2011 by jblackrupert

[walker 0]

Hi all

This has been news arround the world for over a week yet not one mainstream US media outlet has said a word.

What price the US first amendment eh?

Walker

[dmarkwick 261]

So the fake Anarchists and Marxists [Along with a few skateboard kiddies at malls]campaign of baiting the cops is working.

Now if they would only apply that dedication to a J.O.B they might get somewhere other then the front page of youtube.

Edit: That Seattle Cock on the walk cop video above was released by the Police themselves. It was not leaked.

If that was my family member shot like that, I'd put lead in that cops head and let a jury sort it out.

... aaand yet another sterling post that ignores the actual topic in favour of Shouting At People You Don't Like. Followed by some nice internet tough guy talk, where, I might point out, you advocate shooting a policeman in the head. Are you determined to shut down as many OT threads as possible?

On topic: I automatically discount what I read at the Daily Mail. I'm not saying the report is necessarily inaccurate, just that I don't have faith in it :) but it is an interesting topic, providing it can outlive the week.

[HyperU2 11]

Yeah Youtube videos that are critical of the government are nearly impossible to find. Damn censors. Another troll worthy Walker thread.

[jblackrupert 14]

aaand yet another sterling post that ignores the actual topic in favour of Shouting At People You Don't Like

I don't like people who purposely bait the cops so they can get video carefully edited to show the cops reaction but not the actions to lead up to it.

The Seattle video is clear cut second degree murder. but comparing it to rioters

with cameras at the ready is complete bull.

Google is nothing more then a corporation playing "Cool" like Apple.

Yeah Youtube videos that are critical of the government are nearly impossible to find. Damn censors.

Naw, Finding videos that weren't staged for the cameras by the "victims" is hard. Especially now with the OWS protests.

Edited November 8, 2011 by jblackrupert

[HyperU2 11]

They took a lesson from Pallywood methinks. Kind of fits in with their anti Jewish mentality.

[jblackrupert 14]

The City of Vancouver where I live spent a couple of million building a skateboard park to basicaly deal with the flood of skateboard kiddies Youtube videos of them staging confrontations with mall cops and Police.

Gotta love the attention whore generation.

Let' stage a battle with the police to earn money on Youtube...... yaaaaayyyy!

Pallywood is nothing more then the Palestinian version of Shoa business. It goes both ways.

Edited November 8, 2011 by jblackrupert

[walker 0]

Hi all

As the Daily Fail was questioned, here is the same story in the Guardian.

http://m.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/oct/25/google-transparency-report-released?cat=technology&type=article

I only used the Daily Fail as it was such a right wing rag I wanted to prevent the usual extremists from misrepresenting it as a "commie plot" to attack America.

I do of course point out I produced the primary source eg Google's own Transparency Report in the first post.

Kind Regards walker

[dmarkwick 261]

I do of course point out I produced the primary source eg Google's own Transparency Report in the first post.

Indeed, I neglected to acknowledge that :)

[PELHAM 10]

Google's own Transparency Report

From January - June 2011 there were 92 removal requests covering 757 items on google services. 63% were complied with - 477 items were removed at the request of US citizens (courts), and government departments.

Reasons for requests included:

Defamation - Copywright - Impersonation - Privacy and Security - Government Criticism - National - Security - Violence - Hate Speech - Other

If you look at the Google statistics for youtube there were:

6 court orders

26 police/executive requests

for a total of 113 videos (not sure how many were removed - 63% is 71)

A possible 71 videos removed for all the thousands posted each month - is there really a problem?

There was only 1 request for removal based on Government criticism made by a police department, executive department or other. Who knows which oddball filed that one and it probably wasn't complied with?

Are all these requests unjustified? Probably not. When you consider the numbers - 757 items requested for removal vs millions of items posted online in that time. Is this really censorship and oppression? Remember some of the requests are on grounds of copywright, impersonation, defamation and privacy, from court orders brought by private individuals not the government.

Someone above has commented that 63% seems high, but that depends on the content of what was removed. The UK has an 82% removal compliance rating, is censorship in the UK worse than the US or are we more balanced in what we are requesting to be removed?

I would not let Walker interpret data on your behalf - he does not seem capable of an objective opinion. Look at the data for yourself and come to the only reasonable conclusion - yet another Walker Troll post.

Edited November 8, 2011 by PELHAM

[walker 0]

Hi all

Extending on the partial post by PELHAM and giving source.

Observations on Content Removal Requests

We received a request from a local law enforcement agency to remove YouTube videos of police brutality, which we did not remove. Separately, we received requests from a different local law enforcement agency for removal of videos allegedly defaming law enforcement officials. We did not comply with those requests, which we have categorized in this Report as defamation requests.

http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests/US/?p=2011-06&t=CONTENT_REMOVAL_REQUEST

As always follow the link to the original text in full

Of course the major problem is that traditional media in the US have not reported the story which is on non US traditional media sources throughout the world from Australia to India to Europe and South America for over a week. One is inevitably drawn to the conclusion that traditional media in the US are censoring the news in the USA.

Kind Regards walker

[Tonci87 163]

Hi all

Extending on the partial post by PELHAM and giving source.

http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests/US/?p=2011-06&t=CONTENT_REMOVAL_REQUEST

As always follow the link to the original text in full

Of course the major problem is that traditional media in the US have not reported the story which is on non US traditional media sources throughout the world from Australia to India to Europe and South America for over a week. One is inevitably drawn to the conclusion that traditional media in the US are censoring the news in the USA.

Kind Regards walker

Does this surprise you? Repression, Observation and censoring are the utilities all governments use to keep the people happy.....

[walker 0]

Hi Tonci87

I was remarking on how easily the supposedly free press of America threw the first Amendment of the US Constitution in the trash.

A few advertisers from Wall Streets Welfare Queens snap their fingers and the US press becomes Pravda.

Sad walker

[-DirTyDeeDs--Ziggy- 0]

save an attention whore, reply to his thread(s)!

[PELHAM 10]

So google have highlighted 2 requests out of a total of 93. Two police departments who were not happy that their officers were caught on video misbehaving and tried to have the videos removed. Wow, shocking.

Where is the story? America is studded with small town hick police departments that do such things. They know about it already.

The main focus of the other news stories is the high number of user information requests - 11000 or so. That might be worth examining, but remember people involved in criminal activity, posting pictures of gun use, reckless driving, drug use, incitement to riot etc might be of interest to the police. Is it simply US police cyber crime detection units trawling the Internet for crimes/witnesses in their area or something else? Your conclusion that the US media are censoring the news might be a little far fetched? They may have researched this properly and not responded to viral hokus pocus.

I see no wow factor here. The Mail and the Guardian have alerted you to the fact that the US has more removal requests and more user info requests than any other country. That coincides with the fact that the US has the highest number of Internet users. QED

Edited November 8, 2011 by PELHAM

[nettrucker 144]

Hi Tonci87

I was remarking on how easily the supposedly free press of America threw the first Amendment of the US Constitution in the trash.

A few advertisers from Wall Streets Welfare Queens snap their fingers and the US press becomes Pravda.

Sad walker

Well what do you expect? The USA has turned into a fascistic state since the Neocons took over and they are following their agenda and whoever thinks the mainstream media hasn't been bought of . . . should go back to sleep.

the Internet is full of videos where police is arresting in a brutal manner people who demonstrate. It's not only a phenomena related to the USA it's happening all over the world. When I'm watching Hannity and Riley I feel the urge to puke.

The whole mainstream media is corrupted to it's DNA, but so are our governments, our politicians. Corruption is everywhere, every man got his price. If they can't buy you . . . they gonna kill you.

[rangerpl 13]

I don't think the government is going 1984 on us, I believe it's more about PR than anything else. Police brutality happens everywhere, as not all cops are good cops. Unfortunately, with the rise of the internet, every such incident is amplified to a huge extent. This makes the government look bad, so they try to get some of these videos taken down.

As you see, not everyone complied. The government isn't throwing people into prison for posting these videos, it's just sending them angry letters :)

[Tonci87 163]

well what do you expect? The usa has turned into a fascistic state since the neocons took over and they are following their agenda and whoever thinks the mainstream media hasn't been bought of . . . Should go back to sleep.

The internet is full of videos where police is arresting in a brutal manner people who demonstrate. It's not only a phenomena related to the usa it's happening all over the world. When i'm watching hannity and riley i feel the urge to puke.

The whole mainstream media is corrupted to it's dna, but so are our governments, our politicians. Corruption is everywhere, every man got his price. If they can't buy you . . . They gonna kill you.

this!!

[nettrucker 144]

I don't think the government is going 1984 on us, I believe it's more about PR than anything else. Police brutality happens everywhere, as not all cops are good cops. Unfortunately, with the rise of the internet, every such incident is amplified to a huge extent. This makes the government look bad, so they try to get some of these videos taken down.

As you see, not everyone complied. The government isn't throwing people into prison for posting these videos, it's just sending them angry letters :)

No they don't throw you in prison for posting (it's only a matter of time IMHO) they throw you in prison for protesting which is your constitutional right. History hasn't taught anything to mankind . . . period.

[ProfTournesol 956]

No they don't throw you in prison for posting (it's only a matter of time IMHO) they throw you in prison for protesting which is your constitutional right. History hasn't taught anything to mankind . . . period.

When we see what happens in Syria, i guess we shouldn't overdo it.

[Hans Ludwig 0]

Hi all

This has been news arround the world for over a week yet not one mainstream US media outlet has said a word.

What price the US first amendment eh?

Walker

The First Amendment doesn't apply to private organizations. It only applies to public, not private venues.

Edited November 9, 2011 by Hans Ludwig

[Fox '09 14]

Well what do you expect? The USA has turned into a fascistic state since the Neocons took over and they are following their agenda and whoever thinks the mainstream media hasn't been bought of . . . should go back to sleep.

the Internet is full of videos where police is arresting in a brutal manner people who demonstrate. It's not only a phenomena related to the USA it's happening all over the world. When I'm watching Hannity and Riley I feel the urge to puke.

The whole mainstream media is corrupted to it's DNA, but so are our governments, our politicians. Corruption is everywhere, every man got his price. If they can't buy you . . . they gonna kill you.

thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHiicN0Kg10

this interview really tells it all. Sometimes it's good to turn off the TV and go to your state capital or a major city's financial district and city hall, and look around.