Colonel Gadaffi found

[eble 3]

fair play I guess, he could have ran away but died doing exactly what he said fighting to the end.

Lets hope they don't disintergrate along tribal lines and have a longer civil war of sorts, looks like every man and his dog has heavy weapons.

[PELHAM 10]

So he crawled in a drain pipe after the airstrike?

Looks like they tried to break out of the area in Sirte. Nato attacked the convoy - Gadaffi was probably injured in that and crawled inside the culvert. He was then shot several times in the culvert by an NTC soldier and was still alive when they dragged him out but died a short time later.

Saif Gadaffi is still at large - he is the last one on the list. Probably in Bani Walid?

[-GR-Operative 10]

Can someone enlighten me about what so bad have Kadhafi done? (not meant to fuel a discussion, just basic information).

[Beagle 684]

Operative;2041068']Can someone enlighten me about what so bad have Kadhafi done? (not meant to fuel a discussion' date=' just basic information).[/quote']Nothing special, just what others do right now, but he chosed the wrong friends (Germany, Italy, France) that dropped him like a hot potato on first instance. His greatest Sin was that he dies not let the west and thre IWF profiteer enoeug ffrom the weath Lybia had...Instead he reinvested it into Lybia making it the premier country on african soil...obviously he inflicted to much greed with the wealth Lybia once had. He wanted to free africa from the throatthrottteling of the western world...you better don't dare that.

He was for sure not the Messias but in no way worse than all the other "Kings, Presidents"and whatever around him.

He supported terrorism back in the 80's and he admitted it and in turn renounced it.

But there had been a few open bills still unpayed and in Early 2011 the US and UK saw a chance for payback.the former friends di´d nothing in the first and joined the international mob short after because of the fear to be excluded when the plunder is shared.

We call this international politics and it works that way since the old greeks, egyptians and the persians.

Someone in Rome just thought: Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam

Edited October 20, 2011 by Beagle

[Daniel 0]

Operative;2041068']Can someone enlighten me about what so bad have Kadhafi done? (not meant to fuel a discussion' date=' just basic information).[/quote']

Having students publicly hung for taking part in protest marches? Just off the top of my head.

As Walker said, good riddance. Someone might want to alter the thread title. I do, however, concede the point made in this thread that more countries may now be less keen to side with Europe/The West for fear of these sort of reprisals and interferences.

Edited October 20, 2011 by Daniel

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[ProfTournesol 956]

Operative;2041068']Can someone enlighten me about what so bad have Kadhafi done? (not meant to fuel a discussion' date=' just basic information).[/quote']

Lockerbie bombing ? French UTA plane bombing ?

[jblackrupert 14]

Blowing up a plane

[Daniel 0]

Also blamed for the bombing a German night club full of American troops, and the death of a policewoman shot dead in London from within the Libyan embassy.

[Mr. Charles 22]

There is a video on youtube/Liveleak about his last moments and oh boy...

[Beagle 684]

The world is sick!

[mrcash2009 0]

I dont think anyone is capable of being blamed for something they never did themselves (ref bombings and UK shooting etc). I think its more about the politics of things over time/linking, plus the UN/NATO hard-on right now to crusade and pick off as many people they used in the past that are not needed now as possible in order to continue "liberating" and spreading "democracy".

Don't worry the game of guess who continues with the next demons to line up and focus in the cross hairs for termination and infiltration.

If you are taking out people of links to wrong-doing I think many on both sides should drop a smart bomb on themselves to save themselves.You have to love the hypocrites jumping on this in the ivory towers.

"Mission Accomplished" .... on to the next (pumps fists like TAPS ghost hunters team)..

Oddly the percentage of wrong doing over him and "the other two" out of action isn't balancing much, out of a frying pan into a fire.

Edited October 20, 2011 by mrcash2009

[max power 21]

Operative;2041068']Can someone enlighten me about what so bad have Kadhafi done? (not meant to fuel a discussion' date=' just basic information).[/quote']

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi#State-sponsored_terrorism

He was public enemy number one of the Regan administration. He was big news in the 80s. He has since settled down a little bit.

[Beagle 684]

It is quite usual manner in politics today to order the death of people you shaked hands with first...I don't call that civilzed anymore.

"He lives on in the hearts of his "friends"...

[PELHAM 10]

Operative;2041068']Can someone enlighten me about what so bad have Kadhafi done? (not meant to fuel a discussion' date=' just basic information).[/quote']

A good question - we should remember the 1000s of victims not the man.

From the UK perspective:

Lockerbie bombing UK 1988

Lockerbie is known internationally as the place where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed after a bomb exploded during the flight. In the United Kingdom the event is often referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven residents of the town were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of other buildings nearby. The 270 victims (259 on the plane and eleven in Lockerbie) were citizens of twenty-one different nations.

Murder of PC Yvonne Fletcher - 1984

Yvonne was shot in the back with a machine gun fired from the Libyan Embassy. No one has ever been convicted for the murder of Yvonne Fletcher. However in 1999, the government of Muammar Gaddafi accepted responsibility for her death and agreed to pay compensation to her family. Her fiance is in the picture and was at her side as she lay bleeding to death in the road.

Omagh Bombing - 1998

Twenty-nine people died as a result of the attack and approximately 220 people were injured. The bomb was built using semtex supplied by Gadaffi.

Edited October 20, 2011 by PELHAM

[ProfTournesol 956]

It is quite usual manner in politics today to order the death of people you shaked hands with first...I don't call that civilzed anymore.

"He lives on in the hearts of his "friends"...

Well, that was the same with Saddam Hussein. Anyway, i prefer him dead than visiting my country and pitching his tent in Paris.

[Beagle 684]

This forum is to small to credit all victims of US authorities here. And I already got banned three months once for doing so. Call that a bit biased.

[max power 21]

This forum is to small to credit all victims of US authorities here. And I already got banned three months once for doing so. Call that a bit biased.

Because other people are bad does not get Qaddafi off of the hook. Any implications to the contrary are, at best, based on fallacious logic, and, at worst, the foundations of poisonous rhetoric.

[wld427 1705]

This forum is to small to credit all victims of US authorities here. And I already got banned three months once for doing so. Call that a bit biased.

bit paranoid are we?

[-GR-Operative 10]

Thanks for all the information guys, will research a bit more.

But did the countries accept his excuses (for the attacks, directly or indirectly associated to him, as I see) or was him still wanted in some countries?

[dunedain 48]

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You could add the UTA Flight 772 flight on that list. :mad:

[froggyluv 2136]

I just saw the Golden Pistol that he was carrying being passed around a crowd of kids....

This guy really wanted to be a James Bond villain.

[HyperU2 11]

You could add the UTA Flight 772 flight on that list. :mad:

And the Berlin bombing that killed 2 US soldiers and a Turk. Toss up how Beagle feels about that one though.

[Beagle 684]

Operative;2041156']Thanks for all the information guys' date=' will research a bit more.

But did the countries accept his excuses (for the attacks, directly or indirectly associated to him, as I see) or was him still wanted in some countries?[/quote']Germany accepted the excuse and the renunciation from supporting terrorism. Gadaffi was considered to really try hard to be considered a serious statesman.

UK and USA on the other hand are well know to be unforgiving.

Eye for an eye till the world is blinded.

[sudayev 27]

Correct me if I'm wrong. I've seen this clip on liveleak - Qaddafi’s last moments. Was he still alive during the video shoot, looked like the old man was still moving. They roughed him pretty good afterwards. At least I'm sure now that was him, which I can't say about this whole OBL shady job, they just wrapped him in a carpet and dumped from the boat and said to the world - it was him.

Edited October 20, 2011 by Sudayev