Behaviorism ;-)

[jeza 5416]

Myke;1973028'] if they were face to face with those co-players.

Yeah i agree, tis why i try to act in the manner of where i am into a face to face situation its just a good way to keep things civil & polite and a nice 'online behaviour' code to stick to , to make others comfortable as well. To be fair the way some people have spoken to me online and if they did it in person i dont know many people who wouldnt take a swing at them :p

[celery 8]

I think it would be good to understand that some just don't always feel overly social all the time and just want to see how the mission plays out until they have something useful to say. I once joined a server where all the members of a clan greeted everyone individually, and they seemed to get totally manic if someone didn't greet every member back, spamming "Hi" until they got an answer and threatening some poor guy with a kick if he didn't elaborate on his home country when asked. I thought the clan was full of sick individuals.

All in all, cooperation doesn't require that many words. If the mission has clear objectives and there's at least one person briefly telling others what to do, all should go well.

Edited July 4, 2011 by Celery

[NeMeSiS 11]

Never gone into a bar full of people you don't know and sat their quietly, keeping yourself to yourself?

Why go to bar if you aren't going to talk to anyone. And yet people still do.

Ever tried going to a bar and deliberately talking to everyone?

-The women think you are a sex pest.

-The men think you are gay.

-Groups of people think you are mentally challenged just for being sociable.

-After an hour the bar staff think you are trying to sell drugs and throw you out.

-If you are lucky you will not be attacked and chased down the street because some of those 'very quiet' people really are very mentally challenged.

Can't understand why we all communicate on forums and blogs these days can you?

Both of you go to horrible bars. :p

However, i dont really see the problem with leaving the small talk out of online gaming, if i am gaming i want to game, not talk. The only communication i want is discussing tactics/orders. Its also a nice way to kill time if you are waiting to respawn, but only if the people you are talking to are into it, forced small talk is awful anyway.

[Montanaro 0]

1st. Behaviorism isn't really the term you are looking for, but I doubt English is your 1st language so I'll let it slide

2nd. Humor helps

3rd. Timing helps

I'll say "whats up" when I get on servers, but I don't get bent out of shape if people don't reply. I realize they are playing the game and may not pay attention or have the time to say something. I also realize most communication is done through VOIP now.

If you want to have a positive atmosphere I suggest you go to the same servers and make yourself a regular. Also be funny, and don't always try to talk to everyone. If I'm riding in a chopper, I'll switch to the chopper channel and say something goofy and relevant to the situation or something way off the cuff to see if I get a bite. I know these people have nothing to do but sit there, and are more likely to say something back.

But you also don't want to be the annoying twat who spams chat with meaningless drivel. Sometimes just asking people what the situation is and what the plan is helps, but again it depends on what type of server you on and the mentality of their players.

If I'm hosting a house party, and some guy I don't know comes over and yaps and yaps and tries desperately for friends, I'm more likely to think he's a dork and throw him out for freaking out everyone. If he comes and just tries to go with the flow I'll be happy for him to come to my next party.

[[frl]myke 14]

Never gone into a bar full of people you don't know and sat their quietly, keeping yourself to yourself?

Actually not, no. Might be because i would chose a bar where i'm used to know a few people. And you analogy sucks anyway, if i'm into bar talking to no one, this is SP. The moment i look for conversation is when MP starts.

And it's not about having chitchat all the time, it is common sense to say at least hello. If someone is not in the mood to talk about god and the rest of the world he may say so. But a hello wouldn't hurt him.

In a Bar, you and your friends are playing dats, all of a sudden someone starts to play in your rounds aswell without saying a word, i think this analogy fits better.

But hey, if it's your attitude to be unpolite in general, then be it. ;)

[Twisted. 10]

mea culpa mea culpa

I am guilty

So hi! and a big smile :D

Its just that its a pretty intimidating game and you arma types

are so terribly touchy about it all . . so when a noob like me joins and I am looking around

poking stuff to see what works and what dosen't , I don't want to piss people who are

seriously playing off

but for future

Hi yall . .now let me figure out the channel thingy ;)

[OrLoK 20]

hello all

I'm a loner weirdo and don't always say "hullo" on joining a server.

I usually wait to see if folk are communicating and if so, then I say hello, if not, I may or may not greet depending.

Whilst in game I will use comms for Pid, dir of fire, etc etc, but rarely do i get chatty.

Some folk are naturally talkative some not.

Don't hate me cos I'm shy.

Although if I am talked to or given a greeting, i would never deliberately ignore or not respond. That's just rude.

Rgds

LoK

[mrcash2009 0]

Its funny that you can get kicked for not talking, I though getting kicked was when you did talk and just chatted crap and were abusive or a TK nut.

If you haven't got anything good to say, say nothing at all and if you actually have nothing to say then the gameplay will speak for itself if you should be kicked or not.

Ever tried going to a bar and deliberately talking to everyone?

Yes I do, its mainly to annoy women who think they are beautiful & stunning and get them to think im a sex pest and leave me alone, also it helps idoits at bars who think they are gods gift to stay away from me as they might think im gay. Which clears the area for my real friends to be around, oh the laughs we have had :) Edited July 5, 2011 by mrcash2009

[jeza 5416]

Yes I do, its mainly to annoy women who think they are beautiful & stunning and get them to think im a sex pest and leave me alone, also it helps idoits at bars who think they are gods gift to stay away from me as they might think im gay. Which clears the area for my real friends to be around, oh the laughs we have had :)

I know someone like you at my local...im not moving next time! :p

[maddogx 13]

also it helps idoits at bars who think they are gods gift to stay away from me as they might think im gay.

But what if one of them actually turns out to be gay, thinks you're hitting on him and also thinks you look kinda cute?

You're screwed. :p

[andersson 285]

When you go into a room where you are supposed to do the same thing as the rest of the guys there, whatever it is, I find it common sense to give them at least a nod as an acknowledgement. I like when people do the same thing when they enter this virtual arma room. The players who says "hi" when they enter get more attention from us as they show they might be interested in playing with us. Silent players usually steal a helicopter or car and go away on his own (not always).

One should however not expect a conversation after that brief acknowledgement from any part as chit-chat can be disturbing for gameplay. I think it is a good thing to stay silent some time to see whats going on and check the mood of the server.

[NeMeSiS 11]

You're screwed. :p

Or he could just enjoy the free drinks offered to him, and then run, or at least stumble away. :p

[Baff1 0]

Or look deeply into each others eyes....

[SteveJA 12]

Or look deeply into each others eyes....

Hahaha that made me chuckle

[mrcash2009 0]

But what if one of them actually turns out to be gay, thinks you're hitting on him and also thinks you look kinda cute?

You then go to plan b which is a female friend "relationship argument at the bar" to muddy the waters. :)

BTW ... none of this is real, I meant it as sarcasm to the original post :) Although I can carry on with the scenario for a bit longer.

Edited July 7, 2011 by mrcash2009

[Twisted. 10]

seeing as this thread is in search of conversation and being friendly, mind if I post a couple of dumb noob questions here?

[dysta 10]

seeing as this thread is in search of conversation and being friendly, mind if I post a couple of dumb noob questions here?

If not to breaking any rule and offend someone, yes.

[[frl]myke 14]

@Dysta

your answer is misleading. He is asking generally "do you mind?" and you replied with "yes". ;)

Sooo....you want him to break the rules and offend someone? :D

[dysta 10]

Myke;1976223']@Dysta

your answer is misleading. He is asking generally "do you mind?" and you replied with "yes". ;)

Sooo....you want him to break the rules and offend someone? :D

Hah, you got me. I am "testifying" his behavior in this thread. :p

[Twisted. 10]

ohh . .making fun of the noob huh? that does it . . .you shall be barraged with dumb newbie questions:

1.How do I know where the action is?

2.What and how does the teleport thing work?

[[frl]myke 14]

Sorry twisted, i was making fun of how Dysta phrased his answer. ;)

No, people generally don't mind so-called "dumb" questions.

1.: Ask. Read the Briefing. Follow other players. Check the map.

1.: Teleporting isn't a core feature of ArmA but a custom scripted solution. Usually the function is attached to a object (flagpoles are often used for that) and activated through the actionmenu. Be aware that you have to look directly at the object (flagpole) or the action wont show up. After activating it, usually the map opens and by left clicking you select your teleport location. Mostly this is another flagpole located in a already controlled area or, more rarely, completely free to choose.

After clicking on the map, the map usually closes and you get teleported.

[Herbal Influence 10]

Someone here brought a comparison I like very much: :)

Entering a bar (= your PC as the host) with people (or even a better comparison: only one person!) playing darts (= ArmaII/OA). Without words you pick up a dart-thingie and begin to throw your darts. Saying nothing.

Aaarrgh ... :mad:

Whereas I wanna make clear that I don't use a microphone/VOIP, because I don't like it to hear constant discussions, coughing, burrrrrrrrrrrrping, nose blowing, farting ... :eek:

And I like to have a good acoustic about what's going on in the game; VOIP derails me. Insofar I am myself incommunicative ;). But I am very fast on the chat and I am happy that only yesterday I could help two youngsters with some fast chatline advice who at first asked me to skype in which I didn't want to.

What I can agree upon is that, especially with VOIP, there is often much too much conversation :o. A nice effect of the chat is that you like to be short because it is less comfortable than just letting out your thoughts (and other noises) into a micro.

ps.

And, yes, behaviorism is the wrong word for the title. I should have said it is to be read with an pseudointellectual sound in your voice.

[celery 8]

Entering a bar (= your PC as the host) with people (or even a better comparison: only one person!) playing darts (= ArmaII/OA). Without words you pick up a dart-thingie and begin to throw your darts. Saying nothing.

No. You enter a server with players playing Arma 2, the end. Face to face occasions IRL are inherently social whereas internet multiplayer isn't.

[Herbal Influence 10]

No. You enter a server with players playing Arma 2, the end. Face to face occasions IRL are inherently social whereas internet multiplayer isn't.

In the original post I was talking about a game you are hosting on your PC (Multiplayer/Internet)?

[maddogx 13]

It also very much depends on the mission type. On a Domination server, everyone can go ahead, dick off and do their own thing, sure.

On a real coop, you expect peeps to be communicating and working together.