Balkan war mod w.i.p

[NYX87 10]

Hehe :) , I'll try to make the damn thing...

Edited June 14, 2011 by NYX87

[Tobie 10]

... or just convert it! (with permission of course ;))

[yugoslav 13]

i was wondering when you release this could you have a version without faction markings for the vehicles?

[superrat 10]

yes "yugoslav" down the road when this thing is done

however i am looking for picture of OTM60 yugo transpoter any version i found dozen pics but no luck of top of vehicle heres model of it that i did if any of you saw a pic of this vehicle anywhere that show's top post it here plase

[topas 1]

Well... hardly a solid reference (don't laugh, please :D) but at least this gives some clues and an idea on the layout of the hatches etc:

http://www.lorist.co.rs/new/forum/index.php/topic,1643.msg42426.html#msg42426

There's even some interior shots :p

Edited June 22, 2011 by topas

[spooky lynx 73]

Looked at your MT-LB screenshots... Is it some local modification? As I know, soviet version with 12,7 mm MG is armed with NSV machinegun, and according to Wikipedia article, DShK is the armament of polish-made MT-LBs.

[NYX87 10]

There are some pictures at site SrpskiOklop:

Here's the direct link to the M60,there are more photos at the bottom

http://stef124.tripod.com/m60.htm

M60P version has twin recoilless guns at the back end of the vehicle.

You can find all the info on the armored vehicles that were used in the Balkans Wars in the 90's. There's also a section for local-made vehicles (mostly uparmored trucks,but there are some other very interesting conversions,pictures included) :)

More pics of the top:

http://en.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/18403

http://www.armyrecognition.com/serbian_army_serbia_light_armoured_vehicle_fr/m-60p_tracked_armoured_vehicle_personnel_carrier_serbia_serbian_army_technical_data_sheet_descripti.html

Edited June 25, 2011 by NYX87

[NYX87 10]

I don't know how accurate it is, but I know some polish-made made T55's (T55A version) were used in the war (Croatian Army had polish T55A's).So it's possible that this version of MT-LB is polish one. On the other hand many conversions were made on all sides (like mounting a 30mm auto-cannon (with the turret) from M80 APC onto the chassis of 2S1 Gvozdika (it had it's turret removed - probably it was malfunctioning due to some kind of damage).

Edited June 25, 2011 by NYX87

[superrat 10]

well here is about 80% done OT M60 i need to map couple more small things and do rvmats

with lack of good detail and inside pics i think i did good job on this model

[spooky lynx 73]

NYX87, will it be possible to include MT-LB armed with NSV and another one witn ZU-23-2 on russian side (and maybe one more with default armament:))?

[ANZACSAS Steven 396]

SuperRat,

That looks nice m8,Good stuff.

:)

[opffever 10]

Outstanding modelling SuperRat.

[icebreakr 3159]

Can't wait to smash those APCs with zolja or two :)

[slatts 1978]

Can't wait to smash those APCs with zolja or two :)

he hasnt even finished it and you want to blow it up :p

[Darkhorse 1-6 16]

Well, dozens of us have been waiting to crash NodUnits Apache into a mountain, so I guess the same principle applies everywhere. :D

[NYX87 10]

Great work SuperRat. Looks great, would be good if you can put some camo-netting on one of them ;) I remember seeing these vehicles on TV documentaries, they were mostly dug-in and served as static emplacements around Sarajevo. Serbs were making good use of camouflage during the NATO intervention in the late stages of the war.

@Spooky Lynx - I don't understand (?russian side?- you mean Serb faction?),you should ask SuperRat or ThisIsBosnia for this as they're the ones making the mod,I just helped them with a little-tiny bit :). You should ask Vilas for his MT-LB and rework it for yourself or the comunity if your suggestion fails (MT-LB with NSVT and MT-LB with ZU-23) :)

@IceBreakr: Ice? You know how the soldiers called this vehicle (M60)?? KANTA :D i PEGLICA :):) for it's poor armored protection. No need for Zolja, you can wreck it with a baby rattle if it's strong enough. :)

Edited June 28, 2011 by NYX87

[spooky lynx 73]

@Spooky Lynx - I don't understand (?russian side?- you mean Serb faction?),you should ask SuperRat or ThisIsBosnia for this as they're the ones making the mod,I just helped them with a little-tiny bit :). You should ask Vilas for his MT-LB and rework it for yourself or the comunity if your suggestion fails (MT-LB with NSVT and MT-LB with ZU-23) :)

No, just want to have this MTLBs in 'Russia' faction with russian crews, if possible.

[icebreakr 3159]

What will Serbian gazelle carry? Maljutkas and browning?

NYZ87: hehe, kanta :)

I have map ready for this project, I think you'll like it. Its fictional but based on real terrain data. More info soon in a separate topic...

[NYX87 10]

What else is available for the Gazelle except Maljutka?? :)

[icebreakr 3159]

9M32M strela-2M for example...

http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/2/6/7/9/63915_1281456976.jpg

Is this "kanta" too?

http://img34.exs.cx/img34/4017/destroyedserbianvehicle1qy.jpg

Will you incorporate Praga 30-2, quite often used vehicle during first years of war:

http://www.parkvojaskezgodovine.si/images/images/fotke/TAZ-top_PAST.jpg

?

Edited July 4, 2011 by IceBreakr

[NYX87 10]

@Ice: No, that's a container :)

Praga was used throughout the war,not only in the first years. Later it saw action on Kosovo used by VSCG. It was a fierce weapon when used in ground support role as it so often WAS the case (and it was used in it's primary AA role during the NATO strikes,Pragas were crating flak curtains),and the Serbs in Bosnia often used a Praga or two to defend the outnumbered fellow troops on hot-spots and to stop infantry attacks,especially in the hills where it's AA elevation came into the picture - and they often got the job done.

Drawbacks: Lightly armored and not a very powerfull motor. Pragas often fired over their own lines since there was a serious threat that even a single AT round would send it burning.

This weapon is a "must have" in this mod... Don't you think?? :)

Edited July 4, 2011 by NYX87

[superrat 10]

ok here's 120mm just finished texturing it i just need rvmat's done and this baby is good to go

trucks are done here are some with plates

did little bit more work on texturing of OTK M60

[icebreakr 3159]

Is it possible to update the texture of M60 a bit to represent the more realistic tone:

[Tonci87 163]

You mean the rusty tone? ^^

But yes, It would be a good Idea to apply some sort of "used look" on the vehicels. They are all to clean ATM

Edited July 5, 2011 by Tonci87

[icebreakr 3159]

Wear and tear, dirt... scratches... and also colour that would look closer to our "JNA helmets" than current olive green.