FRL Airforce Addons release thread

[[frl]myke 15]

Another addition to the upcoming Missilebox update:

Same pic in a higher resolution: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9367994/tow_ingame.png >100kb

Thanks to wld427 for giving me his version of the Cobra's TOW launcher as reference model.

[wolfbite 8]

Looks awesome... I assume they cant be loaded onto aircraft like your other missiles though.. they have to be part of the model right?

Great job as always man!

[[frl]myke 15]

Looks awesome... I assume they cant be loaded onto aircraft like your other missiles though.. they have to be part of the model right?

Great job as always man!

They can be loaded as magazine and will then appear correctly (hopefully) on the respective vehicle.

They can be added through config (in a addon) or by script (addMagazine).

Remember, what you actually "see" loaded on a plane/helicopter (except FFAR launcher and alikes) are magazine classes and it's respective ammo class. A weapon is only required to fire a weapon but doesn't affect the ability to visually load something.

As the TOW Missile isn't a proxy weapon (means the missile/ammo is only spawned upon firing, not visibly loaded), adding the TOW Launcher could be done on any plane/chopper which has weapon proxies defined.

I do hope that addonmakers will go away from having such weapons "hardmodelled" in the vehicle p3d but move such things to proxies, regardless if they use the Missilebox or not. This way, Missionmaker could easily by script change the loadout if it fits for the Mission. So instead a Cobra with 2 FFAR pods and 8 Hellfires, one could load 4 FFAR pods instead...or 16 Hellfires. ;)

[wolfbite 8]

Hmmm.... I gonna take a serious look at this when I get back tonight then... So you can spawn a multiple launcher on a weapon proxy? This is fantastic..

[[frl]myke 15]

Hmmm.... I gonna take a serious look at this when I get back tonight then... So you can spawn a multiple launcher on a weapon proxy? This is fantastic..

I guess you missed this one:

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I made this back when ArmA 2 was released to see how the proxies work and what's possible. All this is realized by simple proxies and cfgAmmo/cfgMagazines. Those TOW launcher would be similar to the FFAR launcher in the Vid.

Please take note that for the AGM-114 rack it needs additional proxies which usually aren't set up at most vehicles, so you can load the Rack itself but without missiles if those additional proxies aren't there.

It would need 1+4 proxies....1 Rack and 4 Missiles.

[wolfbite 8]

So you would have the standard proxies e.g 1-4 and on the two rack holder proxies you'd have some around them lik 1a,b,c 2a,b,c

[[frl]myke 15]

So you would have the standard proxies e.g 1-4 and on the two rack holder proxies you'd have some around them lik 1a,b,c 2a,b,c

I suggest you take a look at this: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=113118

[[frl]myke 15]

Gnat needed some GBU-31 for one of his addons...so, here it is (WIP):

[[frl]myke 15]

Quote from another thread, discussion might continue here:

Theres nothing wrong with it for the vast majority of users, my community[unitedOperations.net] tends to get 50-70 players during weekends and GLT missilebox doesn't function well under that load of players[95% of addons don't aswell], in order to use the Nimitz and IkaR's F14 I had to modify and remove several scripts from them so they will work under the heavy server/connection/fps load.

I don't think the AIM-54 not being present is a big deal - in ArmA the engagements are typically within 4-5kms which is sidewinder range, having a iconic high quality twin seat jet far outweights the AIM-54 not being present in my humble opinion.

My reply was:

Myke;2098664']Care to elaborate how the Missilebox affects performance? The weapons are just models with textures' date=' no fancy scripting or something that could have any effect on the performance. Also the GPS/INS system is clientside and only active when actually using it. Actually i have no idea how a pure model could affect server/connection/fps load as it doesn't make any difference if the model is a BIS default model or a addon model.

For me personally, a F-14 without AIM-54 isn't a F-14 anymore. But this is really my personal opinion.[/quote']

and ZZEZ then replied:

Its not about the graphical performance, its solely server side issue with extreme low server fps - none the less its your choice and I completely respect it.

I'll still be playing with the Tomcat, hopefully at some point in the future we'll be able to use it online, can't wait for the next version :)

@Myke, I have no intention of polluting this thread with technical talk and back and fourth bickering, if you are truly interested in hearing then just shoot me a PM.

Ok, now here we are.

Let me say this: if there is really a issue with the Missilebox regarding performance, i'm surely interested to track it down and solve it.

What i can say now for sure: the weapons are similar to BIS weapons, means a model with textures and the common configs. Nothing fancy there which could affect server performance.

For the GPS/INS system is a one-shot script that is launched upon initialization. Means it runs exactly once at the start, finishs within seconds and after that, there is no other script runnin.

Only if you board a plane or chopper, there is a single looped script (with 0.333 seconds sleeps between each loop) to handle the spawned lasertarget for the GPS/INS system. But this is completely clientside and no network traffic is caused.

So i'm clueless which aspect of the Missilebox could have any effect on server performance.

[ravendk 25]

Love the JDAM model :P reminds me of the one i sat on in the RDAF days :D

[scarecrow398 43]

Thought you may find this interesting myke, US Air forces has recently taken delivery of the latest GBU-57 (a 30,000lb guided bomb than can penetrate 200ft of hardened concrete) in comparision the GBU-43 MOAB is 22,000lb and unlike its predisessor the B-2 bomber is capeable of carrying 2 GBU-57's....

[[frl]myke 15]

Interesting, indeed. Although personally i think for ArmA 2 rather useless. It might be something for A3 if underground structures are supported there but here in A2, there is nothing which requires such massive peneatration. But if Gnat now shows up and says "can i has"...well, then i surely will consider it. ;)

[[aps]gnat 29]

"can I have?" LOL ;)

But yes, somewhat agree, nice, but seems a bit of overkill for ArmA maps.

[[frl]myke 15]

Looking at the GBU-57, it's purpose is to destroy hardened subsurface targets which simply aren't there in A2. The GBU-43 is designed to flatten a rather large area, so completely different purpose. The bombs in the Missilebox actually can do the same what the GBU-57 could do.

But it is interesting, sure. I probably will include it in one of the next updates but not the one i'm currently working on (and which entered bug hunting phase yesterday).

:EDITH:

Gnat;2099829']"can I have?" LOL ;)

But yes' date=' somewhat agree, nice, but seems a bit of overkill for ArmA maps.[/quote']

No comment.....

Edited February 2, 2012 by [FRL]Myke

[[frl]myke 15]

A little teaser for the upcoming FRL Missilebox update 4.0 (formerly known as GLT Missilebox):

[scarecrow398 43]

Myke;2099845']Looking at the GBU-57' date=' it's purpose is to destroy hardened subsurface targets which simply aren't there in A2. The GBU-43 is designed to flatten a rather large area, so completely different purpose. The bombs in the Missilebox actually can do the same what the GBU-57 could do.

But it is interesting, sure. I probably will include it in one of the next updates but not the one i'm currently working on (and which entered bug hunting phase yesterday).

:EDITH:

No comment.....

[url']http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9367994/gbu57.jpg[/url]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9367994/gbu57_2.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9367994/gbu57_3.jpg

:D you're such a push over :P

now if only we had placeable underground buildings like VBS2 *rubs chin*

Edited February 3, 2012 by Foxhound
removed quoted images

[dcal 16]

Impressive man....enough ordinance there to level a small country...and its Navy

[wolfbite 8]

Wow that an impressive museum of ordanance you have there sir... Well done!

[wld427 1705]

Myke it would be nice to have them for destroying hardened aircraft shelters......

[[frl]myke 15]

Myke it would be nice to have them for destroying hardened aircraft shelters......

If you mean the GBU-57...check the vid in my previous post and look what's the first bomb is. ;)

Btw, did you received the link i've sent you through MSN a few days ago? Is the stuff of any use for you?

[kremator 1065]

Very impressive Myke !

[wld427 1705]

Myke;2101127']If you mean the GBU-57...check the vid in my previous post and look what's the first bomb is. ;)

Btw' date=' did you received the link i've sent you through MSN a few days ago? Is the stuff of any use for you?[/quote']

Yes mate i got it all. Looks great and will be eventually included on my choppers......

[wld427 1705]

Sorry for the double post.....

Myke if you are looking for something that could really help your missile pack as well as us other modders it would be eastern bloc multiple bomb racks and rails. I have been unable locate any even somewhat decent ones. Seems its a series of universal racks that can hold between 2 and 12 bombs.

pics.

http://www.paolia.com/mishka/assets_c/2010/03/afmzh229-thumb-300x225-2018.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/PiotrekS/Lotnictwo%20net/MiG-21bis-0001.jpg

http://www.milavia.net/aircraft/tu-22m/tu-22m_pic2.jpg

http://www.paolia.com/mishka/assets_c/2010/03/afmzh230-thumb-300x225-2021.jpg

[[frl]myke 15]

Sorry for the double post.....

Myke if you are looking for something that could really help your missile pack as well as us other modders it would be eastern bloc multiple bomb racks and rails. I have been unable locate any even somewhat decent ones. Seems its a series of universal racks that can hold between 2 and 12 bombs.

pics.

http://www.paolia.com/mishka/assets_c/2010/03/afmzh229-thumb-300x225-2018.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/PiotrekS/Lotnictwo%20net/MiG-21bis-0001.jpg

http://www.milavia.net/aircraft/tu-22m/tu-22m_pic2.jpg

http://www.paolia.com/mishka/assets_c/2010/03/afmzh230-thumb-300x225-2021.jpg

I see, will look into it. Maybe Gnat has something useful what i could use at least as template for a own version. Will ask him for it.

Edited February 7, 2012 by [FRL]Myke

[scarecrow398 43]

"soon" is not soon enough damn it! *fist to table*

Also, anychance of that F-16 update or is it just a myth like the Lochness monster?

Edited February 9, 2012 by Scarecrow398