War with Iran.

[Simon C 0]

try to google it

the forbidden bombs that's amirca use

and israil "Cluster bombs"

and the 5 countrys in the Security Council why they didn't stop the war

when israil or amirca under attack they stop when they attack and they will win they shut up ?

Ok, time for you to google it. In fact, I shall help you. Notice how of the 31 countries who have ratified the Convention, and the 75 who have signed but not ratified it, that the United States is not listed? Therefore making the weapon perfectly legal for them. So next time when you try and be smart and ask someone to look something up, make sure you actually know what you're talking about, yeah? ;)

[syria 10]

Ok, time for you to google it. In fact, I shall help you. Notice how of the 31 countries who have ratified the Convention, and the 75 who have signed but not ratified it, that the United States is not listed? Therefore making the weapon perfectly legal for them. So next time when you try and be smart and ask someone to look something up, make sure you actually know what you're talking about, yeah? ;)

Amirca Cluster Used In Iraq

Israil Cluster Used In Lebanon

if u want more just tell me ...

and how about heroshema they didn't use it ? how many people they killed ? they want peace they come for peace ...

i am afraid to see them use it on them countrys

you must know how to use google so good cos u didn't find what do i mean

Edited July 14, 2010 by syria

[W0lle 1052]

so your spy?

or ?

Would you please stop derailing this thread with your nonsense?

As far as I know this thread is about a possible war with Iran and not about people living in ME being possible "spies". :rolleyes:

And your anti-american propaganda isn't here welcome either.

Oh and we speak English here by the way. u and coz you can use at school and home if you want to, here it's you and because.

[Simon C 0]

Right, right... If you want to give me some unbiased links then feel free. And if you want to point to where it states that Cluster Munitions are illegal to use by Israel and the USA, like you originally said, go ahead.

Not entirely what sure you mean about Hiroshima, I clearly stated that nukes were used in 1945 in a previous post. How is Hiroshima relevant to this discussion? I'm getting bored of arguing with such an obvious troll, so without further adieu:

Walker: Do you believe that a war with Iran is likely within the next year, the next 10 years, or at all? Wondering what your timescale on such an incident is. :)

EDIT: Wow W0lle, you type fast. :p

[Takko 10]

People should not bomb Iran but support the political opposition.

Then the people should select a new president, I would vote for afghan president Hamid Karzai to allow dual presidencies, so he can rule the country.

Pakistans minister of chair affaird, Hahmed Kahlei would come in handy too.

The economy should be strenghtened by building little paper planes, as competition to those cheap china products, but this time even cheaper with supercheap production techniques.

If we manage it to pull that off, Iran is far away from being a poor country and is up to-if not even ahead western countries development.

[dm 9]

why the usa used the Forbidden bombs on IRAQ ?

cos they are low give me ur answer ... why?

Yeah, so we know for sure that the US havent dropped any nuclear, chemical or biological weapons on Iraq (you do know you only have to capitalise the first letter of a country's name, right?)

And we also know that the US did not sign onto the CCM, so they are not bound by any law or agreement not to drop cluster munitions.

So what possible "forbidden" weapon are you talking about?

Or are you just regurgitating the rhetoric you were taught in "school" ?

I don't see a difference. If one would apply the term to western-, in particular US- foreign policies and conduct over the last century, there would be more hits than misses to fit the criteria.

Yes, but the countries who currently have nuclear weapons show some restraint with them. During the 65 years nuclear weapons have been available only 2 have ever been used in anger. Thats 2 out of a stockpile which has topped out at over 23000. Pretty good restraint if you ask me.

Can you honestly say the same thing would be true if countries like Iraq, Iran and Syria had nuclear weapons?

Honestly, I can only say no, those idiots would be lighting each other up like fucking christmas trees. I guess it would make our lives a lot easier, as the ME would be glass by now. All we'd have to live with would be the fallout. :rolleyes:

[HyperU2 11]

Yes, I hope that she stays alive.

What an ignorant comment from an ignorant...

Burn the flag!

Bring it on. Thanks for the harassing PM's by the way.

[Big Mac 19]

Bring it on. Thanks for the harassing PM's by the way.

Battle of the trolls...

[HyperU2 11]

Battle of the trolls...

Nice of you to sign up.

[Yoma 0]

I don't know if America (or just about anyone who needs oil quickly) will go to war with Iran within the next 1-3 years.

But I'm bloody sure *some* big country is going to do it within the next 20 years. They are sitting on +- 138 billion barrels

Check out this table if you want to know what countries will be in trouble unless they suck up to some really big ally.

(In billions of barrels estimated reserves within the country's geographical borders)

Saudi Arabia 267 (ally of USA)

Canada 179 (ally of USA)

Iran 138 (ally of nobody, preference to Russian Federation or China)

Iraq 115 (confiscated by USA)

Kuwait 104 (ally of USA)

Venezuela 99 (completely not an ally of USA and allready getting blackjacked...)

United Arab Emirates 98 (ally of USA)

Russia 60

Libya 41 (unsure nowadays)

Nigeria 36 (looking at China)

Kazakhstan 30 (ally of Russian Federation)

United States 21

Amazingly this list contains no less then 5 nations which get targeted in Western media.

I'm a great believer in the power of randomness but one has to be very naive to believe that this is a random fact.

I think it would be a great Masters topic for someone that's doing history, social economical or politics studies.

Link the amount of propaganda spread in the media about a nation to it's natural resources in conjecture to a "greater" ally.

This is all without judging "good" or "bad", it's just noting facts. Fact is between now and 60 years max oil, will run dry and we still don't have any really viable options for replacing it. All current technologies for replacing it somehow link back to other rare resources. You need stuff to make batteries/solar panels/windmills/blabla as well.

[Dwarden 1125]

since when Israel needs attack with jets ...

orbital observation

nuclear submarine

dozen(s) of super / hypersonic cruise missiles

there was target ? i see only crater(s) ...

and they can deny anything

same goes for the old school air attack

there were lot of good timeframes in past and all were missed

if they wanted to attack it would happen already

obviously there is no real reason to ...

[Zipper5 74]

Bring it on. Thanks for the harassing PM's by the way.

Don't bother with Janowich here. It's a well-known fact that he's a troll. I'd recommend simply reporting him to the moderators, as sooner or later he'll be gone.

Cock! Taste the cock! Pizzagun!

[Blackhawk 0]

Even though Russian-Iranian relations have started to strain in recent years, I don't think Russia would tolerate US Forces in Iran. It's a known fact that Russia and China are trying stop or at least limit US influence in Central Asia.

[syria 10]

huh i understood what the euro want ... i am sorry i can tell that

at next years ur family will never sleep cosed of our bombs

we wanna live in freedom and we will show the world how is the freedom

you wanna listen rock music we will let your country listen bomb music mixed with rock ;)

it's what next days will tell

no mercifull ...child ...woman ..man at the end we are people we don't fear and we are not sceared anymore we die simply like drinking water

but u scare of die :)

we will face maybe next years and the promise will come

No Amirca in middle east and if that's need no euro busines man will stay alive

that's what u want

if ur country shot one bullet we shot 2

we are crazy people VS the islam enemys

you all must die via the knife on the nick that's what happen in IRAQ u want some vedios to see or u're far away from middle east you think we can't reach your nick

good luck all

it's was nice time to see you nicks

world war III is coming keep your nick far away from arab or you will lose your head

it's our startigy we let you feel the pain via knife

Edited July 14, 2010 by syria

[W0lle 1052]

I have enough of this stupid propaganda crap and your ignorance now. Consider this your last post here.

[niall0 10]

I think a threat of WWIII was just made on an internet forum...

[wld427 1705]

syria = pure garbage.

Thank you wolle for doing what was needed.

back on topic.

Does anyone really believe the united states military has the resources to attack let alond invade Iran at this point. if you stand abck and look at the big picture all this wargaming becomes completely irrelevant. Maybee a massive airstrike of somekind but that would only lead to more attacks on US troops in Afghanistan and elseware in the middle east.

Any action right now would be very very foolhearty on anyones part.

[mosh 0]

Thanks W0lle, he was trying to contact me, for whatever reason... I guess just to annoy me.

I personally don't think the US is in any condition to attack anyone , but I have no military background, so I have no clue how these things work...

Edited July 15, 2010 by Mosh
can't spell

[HyperU2 11]

We'd be fine. There's really no reason however. Yet.

[*LK1* 10]

skip

you are facing the brainwashed moral superiority believers...wellcome on a western thread war.

but you were just a fake troll.

---------- Post added at 06:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:41 AM ----------

I don't know if America (or just about anyone who needs oil quickly) will go to war with Iran within the next 1-3 years.

But I'm bloody sure *some* big country is going to do it within the next 20 years. They are sitting on +- 138 billion barrels

Check out this table if you want to know what countries will be in trouble unless they suck up to some really big ally.

(In billions of barrels estimated reserves within the country's geographical borders)

Saudi Arabia 267 (ally of USA)

Canada 179 (ally of USA)

Iran 138 (ally of nobody, preference to Russian Federation or China)

Iraq 115 (confiscated by USA)

Kuwait 104 (ally of USA)

Venezuela 99 (completely not an ally of USA and allready getting blackjacked...)

United Arab Emirates 98 (ally of USA)

Russia 60

Libya 41 (unsure nowadays)

Nigeria 36 (looking at China)

Kazakhstan 30 (ally of Russian Federation)

United States 21

Amazingly this list contains no less then 5 nations which get targeted in Western media.

I'm a great believer in the power of randomness but one has to be very naive to believe that this is a random fact.

I think it would be a great Masters topic for someone that's doing history, social economical or politics studies.

Link the amount of propaganda spread in the media about a nation to it's natural resources in conjecture to a "greater" ally.

This is all without judging "good" or "bad", it's just noting facts. Fact is between now and 60 years max oil, will run dry and we still don't have any really viable options for replacing it. All current technologies for replacing it somehow link back to other rare resources. You need stuff to make batteries/solar panels/windmills/blabla as well.

*

but yeah there is "some people" which think is just a coincidence....

they don't need/want oil they want dropp some kg of democracy around the world.lol...

---------- Post added at 06:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:47 AM ----------

Yeah, so we know for sure that the US havent dropped any nuclear, chemical or biological weapons on Iraq (you do know you only have to capitalise the first letter of a country's name, right?)

And we also know that the US did not sign onto the CCM, so they are not bound by any law or agreement not to drop cluster munitions.

So what possible "forbidden" weapon are you talking about?

dude that is not truth.ever heard about fallujah?us army has used the white

phosphorus (aka willie pete) which can be considerated a sort of chemical/biological weapon.most of the people in that poor iraqi town has suffered/is suffering the consequences of this weapon.and they died in a very tragical way.

we should also mention how many times,during an air strike,"we" unleash depleted uranium....but yeah this is not a chemical/biological weapon even if has lethal consequences for the local population :bounce3::bounce3:

---------- Post added at 07:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:56 AM ----------

Can you honestly say the same thing would be true if countries like Iraq, Iran and Syria had nuclear weapons?

Honestly, I can only say no, those idiots would be lighting each other up like fucking christmas trees. I guess it would make our lives a lot easier, as the ME would be glass by now. All we'd have to live with would be the fallout. :rolleyes:

we can call it a stereotypical vision of these nation.i don't think these countries will start nuking eachother while they are screaming "allah ukBAM!" as you may think.aren't the korean guys a sort of crazy horses like we should consider the iranian/sirian guys?no/yes?for me yes... and they don't have dropped a single bomb.do you really think the iranian will start to nuke the middle east just for fun or in name of god when they clearly know they will disappear a couple of second later?

if you know what the nuclear deterrent is you shouldn't tell these kind of bullshit honestly.

most of your stataments(not talking only to you DM)are based on a stereotypical vision of the middle east...

here a fact:the only nation which has used an atomic bomb was the US.

here a surface opinion:with a nuke those new entries are toooo dangerous.

extremist [ɪkˈstriËmɪst]

(Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a person who favours or resorts to immoderate, uncompromising, or fanatical methods or behaviour, esp in being politically radical

I don't see a difference. If one would apply the term to western-, in particular US- foreign policies and conduct over the last century, there would be more hits than misses to fit the criteria.

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aiaiaiaiaiai even if you are in truth you are an anti-american so dont post these things 1 moretime.

or i'll report you :mad:;)

Edited July 15, 2010 by ***LeGeNDK1LLER***

[HyperU2 11]

I'm so sick of hearing that WP is a chemical weapon.

Of course we're the only nation to use an atom bomb, we were the first to have one. We're not the only country that would have used one at the time. Besides our firebombings did far more damage. :)

[*LK1* 10]

Well at least they haven't stoned that woman to death for adultery. Yet.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/07/20107121354041711.html

mmmm isn't even this post clearly OT or just the comment from sirian guys are?

i can reply to this guy that even killing people for a committed crime,as in many US states happens,is a primitive behaviour.and it's a forbidden practice in all the civilizated countries.

wolle i know that most of the guys here are americans and most of the video games buyers are americans...but rules is rules.

Edited July 15, 2010 by ***LeGeNDK1LLER***

[HyperU2 11]

Nice comeback.

[*LK1* 10]

I'm so sick of hearing that WP is a chemical weapon.

using the WP in this way it can clearly being considerated a biological weapon.

here the generic definition:

as you can read is not only used for target illumination...:)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus

here how you used this weap. in iraq:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus#Use_in_Iraq_.282004.29

ok now let me tell you 1 thing, the only network which has made a scoop about the real utilization of WP in iraq was an italian network RaiNews24.

the journalist of this scoop,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuliana_Sgrena,it

was strangely kidnapped a couple of days after the scoop(wonder who has any interest to kidnapp a journalist in this case... the iraqi?).when she was released she was escorted by an italian "007".on the way to go to the baghdad airport http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Calipari was killed by an american soldier;he was trying to protect the giuliana sgrena's body with his body while the bulletts were flying.pretty much every journalist has tryed to tell what going on fallujah had bad times.and plz before telling "ah another conspiracy theory and bla bla bla" inform yourself.sometimes the official thruth can be a bullshit and sometimes the conspiracy theories are the truth.or you think everything is "official" is more credible?

well let's go ahead :

here the second battle of fallujah:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Phantom_Fury

here the utilization of WP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Phantom_Fury#White_phosphorus_controversy

here the rainews24 scoop about the WP and the massacre of fallujah.

i'm glad i've found this translated version of the italian scoop;)

Of course we're the only nation to use an atom bomb, we were the first to have one. We're not the only country that would have used one at the time. Besides our firebombings did far more damage. :)

mmmm no.have you heard about presumption of innocence?

since no other nations has used that bomb you can't tell they will use it if they had this weapons for first.you are using the same logic of a giant bully in the suburbs who beats everyone looking on his face and he try to justify itself by telling"hey if you are big like me you will act in this same way".i don't like this kind of logic.

Edited July 15, 2010 by Placebo

[HyperU2 11]

That's what happens when bodies lie in the sun, but let's blame it on smoke.