mr. Duck 0 Posted December 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But seriously i think Sharon is the worst because now he doesn't really care about anything but trying to get re elected so he's launching huge strikes on 'suspected militias' and basically just fuelling the situation.<span id='postcolor'> I agree, sharon may be a good commander in the field but he isn't that good in politics. What they need is something like Rabin. He could make peace with the Palestinians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted December 7, 2002 Oh yes, he's a great commander... Thats why he's wanted for War Crimes! How the hell does someone like that get into power? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red oct 2 Posted December 7, 2002 Live from Bagdad is on tonight on HBO just thought i let you all know if you are interested Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bordoy 0 Posted December 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">SADDAM'S PAGES OF HOPE Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein has apologised for his country's occupation of Kuwait in 1990-91. He has also urged Kuwaitis to join Iraq's struggle against any occupying armies. His appeal came after Iraq handed over its weapons dossier to the United Nations, a day before the deadline. As expected, Saddam has denied possessing weapons of mass destruction. The document runs to 11,087 pages and is accompanied by CD-Roms containing 529 megabites of data. 'New elements' Iraq hopes that the evidence contained on the pages and on the discs will stave off war with the United States. Although the document has been handed over, it could be a week before the UN Security Council is able to examine the declaration. Iraq's UN envoy, Mohamed Aldouri, said he had been told "there are new elements in the report", but he did not know what they were. However, the US and Britain are likely to view the document with great scepticism. 'Aggressive inspections' The US is unlikely to push for action immediately but may step up pressure on the UN to carry out weapons inspections more aggressively. President Bush wants the UN inspectors to visit multiple suspected weapons sites simultaneously to make it more difficult for banned weapons or materials to be moved around. Chief weapons inspector Hans Blix said the document would be reviewed in the light of global treaties on chemical, biological and nuclear weapons. The UN resolution required Iraq to detail its past and current weapons programmes and list civilian-produced materials that could be used in illegal weapons.<span id='postcolor'> Taken from Sky News Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted December 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein has apologised for his country's occupation of Kuwait in 1990-91. He has also urged Kuwaitis to join Iraq's struggle against any occupying armies. His appeal came after Iraq handed over its weapons dossier to the United Nations, a day before the deadline. <span id='postcolor'> ROFLMAO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted December 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mr. Duck @ Dec. 07 2002,17:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What they need is something like Rabin. He could make peace with the Palestinians.<span id='postcolor'> In 1991, there was a huge confrontation between Israel's PM Shamir and President Bush Senior.</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The most serious threat arises from further Israeli settlement in the occupied territories, long opposed by America as well as by the European Community. Mr. Bush believes he has been misled by the Israeli government's promises not to expand these settlements. -- The Times London, Sept. 14, 1991<span id='postcolor'>In response, Bush Sr delayed granting Israel $10 billion in loan guarantees and only then was Shamir replaced by Rabin, who had a different view of settlements. Â In fact, so different that Rabin was assassinated by a settler. Â But not before he delivered the Oslo treaty. So I agree that we need another Rabin, but first we need another George Bush Sr, who can go eyeball to eyeball with an Israeli PM without blinking. My prediction: Â Bush Jr will get real tough with Sharon during his second term which will cost Sharon his job. Â Only then, in 2007, will Amram Mitzna take over as a new Rabin. Â And then, peace will finally come to Palestine, but an internal civil war will probably start in Israel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted December 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bordoy @ Dec. 07 2002,22:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">SADDAM'S PAGES OF HOPE<span id='postcolor'><span id='postcolor'> What if all they find in the 11,087-page declaration is:</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">All work and no play makes Saddam a dull boy. All work and no play makes Saddam a dull boy. All work and no play makes Saddam a dull boy. All work and no play makes Saddam a dull boy. All work and no play makes Saddam a dull boy. All work and no play makes Saddam a dull boy. All work and no play makes Saddam a dull boy. All work and no play makes Saddam a dull boy. All work and no play makes Saddam a dull boy. All work and no play makes Saddam a dull boy. All work and no play makes Saddam a dull boy. All work and no play makes Saddam a dull boy. [...]<span id='postcolor'> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted December 8, 2002 HAHAHAHA, that's too funny. If you want my opinion, and I'm sure you're all dying to hear it , I think the U.S. should provide at least SOME of the evidence that it has against Iraq. So far Saddam and the UN inspectors have done a pretty good job proving that he does not have any WMDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted December 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Dec. 07 2002,19:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">HAHAHAHA, that's too funny. If you want my opinion, and I'm sure you're all dying to hear it , I think the U.S. should provide at least SOME of the evidence that it has against Iraq. So far Saddam and the UN inspectors have done a pretty good job proving that he does not have any WMDs.<span id='postcolor'> I would say now is the time to present most of the evidence Bush has to the inspection team, let's see what they can find. Makes sense to me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuzmich 0 Posted December 10, 2002 5--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ Dec. 07 2002,185)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh yes, he's a great commander... Thats why he's wanted for War Crimes! How the hell does someone like that get into power?<span id='postcolor'> This is amazing. The link you posted  says the case was dismissed(thrown out) . And you still say Sharon is WANTED FOR CRIME. You can not decide who committed a crime , only a court can. I thought this is a common knowledge. Obviously it is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted December 10, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kuzmich @ Dec. 10 2002,21:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ Dec. 07 2002,18<!--emo&)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh yes, he's a great commander... Thats why he's wanted for War Crimes! How the hell does someone like that get into power?<span id='postcolor'> This is amazing. The link you posted  says the case was dismissed(thrown out) . And you still say Sharon is WANTED FOR CRIME. You can not decide who committed a crime , only a court can. I thought this is a common knowledge. Obviously it is not.<span id='postcolor'> Obviously this is not common knowledge in Israel either where they decide nearly every day who is a criminal without any court involvement.  And the penalty is usually death by gunship rocket or JDAM to the accused and anyone within a 50 meter radius. And by the way, are you suggesting that Osama Bin Laden is not a criminal merely because he hasn't stood trial yet?  Get real!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted December 11, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This is amazing. The link you posted says the case was dismissed(thrown out) . And you still say Sharon is WANTED FOR CRIME. You can not decide who committed a crime , only a court can. I thought this is a common knowledge. Obviously it is not.<span id='postcolor'> As they say, where there's smoke there's fire. Just the fact that this was alleged is enough to make you worry about the man's past. Could you imagine Bush or any Western leader getting voted in if that had been splashed on the papers, true or not. Christ, our press is grilling our PM, for not following the proper procedure for buying a flat! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuzmich 0 Posted December 11, 2002 This is your personal business what you are worried about. However, CALLING someone a CRIMINAL on a public forum is not. About the gunships. My impression is that you think every suspected terrorist is Israel gets his missile right away. If you do, you are wrong. Many of the suspected terrorists are arrested and face trials (and go to prison, where there victims' familys support them through the taxes) . Barguti is a famous example (represented by a lawyer like everyone else). About Osama. In Israel press would bury someone for comparing the legally elected PM with a terrorist. But you know better, don't you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted December 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kuzmich @ Dec. 11 2002,22:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">About Osama. In Israel press would bury someone for comparing the legally elected PM with a terrorist. But you know better, don't you?<span id='postcolor'> I certainly wouldn't bury anyone for comparing Sharon to a terrorist. Â I wouldn't even bury someone for actually calling former Prime Ministers Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir terrorists. Â After all, that's exactly what they were in the mid 1940s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr. Duck 0 Posted December 12, 2002 You got a point there bernadotte, but what's a terrorist in the eyes for someone is somebody else's freedom fighter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jinef 2 Posted December 13, 2002 And so on and so forth. Let's just wait till the Americans decide to kill everyone with an ideology and then the world will be a much better place! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McH 0 Posted December 13, 2002 Israel And U.S.A Ownz! and most europian countrys ( Exept England ) are just a female dog wimp, who never tasted serius Terrorist attack on their soil. Marry Chrismas and Happy Hanuka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted December 13, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (McH @ Dec. 13 2002,21:o0)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Israel And U.S.A Ownz! and most europian countrys ( Exept England ) are just a female dog wimp, who never tasted serius Terrorist attack on their soil.<span id='postcolor'> Terrorism is like venereal disease. Â Avoiding it is not as mysterious as you think and experiencing it is nothing to be proud of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McH 0 Posted December 13, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Terrorism is like venereal disease. Avoiding it is not as mysterious as you think and experiencing it is nothing to be proud of. <span id='postcolor'> Im not proud that we get attacked, but im proud at my country. I just sick & tried from all the blah blah Israel Evil blah blah war crimes blah blah suicide bomber are freedom fighters ETC We dont use air strikes to avoide hitting inoccent, instead we send our soldiers door to door search for terrorists, risking their life, if they will cooperate nothing will happen to them, but if some woman cross fire to defend some Hamas member or anything like that, f**k it, its her problem!!! I want peace, but lets face it, it doesnt gonna happen for at least the next 10 years.. till Arafat will be replaced, or more likely, get killed. last week i read in the newspaper that the Hamas is invovled in the education system of the Plo, hmmm... their kids gonna do 3rd degree in suicide bombing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted December 14, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (McH @ Dec. 13 2002,15:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Israel And U.S.A Ownz! and most europian countrys ( Exept England ) are just a female dog wimp, who never tasted serius Terrorist attack on their soil. Marry Chrismas and Happy Hanuka <span id='postcolor'> You clearly do not know what you are talking about and you are giving Jews a bad name here. At least when I insult a country I try and have a good reason behind it. May your Hanukkah holiday be as good as the palestinians holiday in Palestine. I would be ashamed to say I am Jewish at a time like this, with all the massacres of innocents in Palestine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted December 14, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (McH @ Dec. 14 2002,02:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Israel And U.S.A Ownz! and most europian countrys ( Exept England ) are just a female dog wimp, who never tasted serius Terrorist attack on their soil.<span id='postcolor'> Uh, dude, most european countries have probably had more terrorist attacks on their soil than the U.S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted December 14, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (McH @ Dec. 13 2002,22:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">im proud at my country.<span id='postcolor'> Do you live in Israel or do you live in one of the Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territories? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted December 14, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Dec. 14 2002,01:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You clearly do not know what you are talking about and you are giving Jews a bad name here. [...] I would be ashamed to say I am Jewish at a time like this, with all the massacres of innocents in Palestine.<span id='postcolor'> I strongly disagree with the way you lump Jews and Israelis together. Â The vast majority of the world's Jews live outside of Israel and have nothing to do with that nation. Â Meanwhile, the hords of Christians standing behind Sharon's policies, don't necessarily give all of Christianity a bad name either. Sharon would be very happy if the world decided to attack his religion instead of his policies. Â Let's not do him any favours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr. Duck 0 Posted December 14, 2002 Maybe it could be better if the two of them got replaced. Sharon and Arafat. Let's see what will happen than. I heard that those two dude have a long history with each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted December 14, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bernadotte @ Dec. 13 2002,20:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Dec. 14 2002,01:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You clearly do not know what you are talking about and you are giving Jews a bad name here. [...] I would be ashamed to say I am Jewish at a time like this, with all the massacres of innocents in Palestine.<span id='postcolor'> I strongly disagree with the way you lump Jews and Israelis together. The vast majority of the world's Jews live outside of Israel and have nothing to do with that nation. Meanwhile, the hords of Christians standing behind Sharon's policies, don't necessarily give all of Christianity a bad name either. Sharon would be very happy if the world decided to attack his religion instead of his policies. Let's not do him any favours.<span id='postcolor'> Vast majority, while the rest tries to get funds back to Israel to fund the massacre. And the rest will use their corporate and political power to benefit Israel as much as possible, like boycotting the Polish airline flights in New York for what happened in WW2. If you said Israel gets all those nice lumps of money from the US because Christians or Protestants are running the show there you would probably be wrong. Also if you said that Palestinians are getting murdered because of the Christians or Hindus(etc) in power in Israel you would be wrong. Right? I know it's not politcally correct to lump them like that, but I still have a right to say it, I am very frustrated with how Jews are acting in the U.S. and Israel. And the U.S. got payed on 11th of September for what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
