Chunk3ym4n 10 Posted November 11, 2009 http://www.moddb.com/engines/unreal-engine-3/news/unreal-engine-3-free-to-indies ModDB posted:Only a week after Unity announced the free use of their engine for indie and mod teams, Epic Games has unveiled UDK UNREAL DEVELOPMENT KIT (clever name that) for use by indie and mod teams. While the choice of tools and engines available to mod and indie developers increases by the day, traditionally engines the magnitude and relevance of UE have been out of the reach of smaller teams due to licensing costs edging close to a million. However while it may be free to develop and release a non-commercial game, should you wish to profit from your hard work the current UDK license states that 25% of all revenue earnt beyond $5,000 will be paid to Epic as your licensing cost. I consider this a small price to pay with no risk for developers who now have access to proven technology. What will the developers do with this? Only time will tell, I for one see the availability of unrestrictive powerful tools like this as PROOF of the POWER that PC gaming still has. While traditional PC developers (i.e. Infinity Ward and others) may be shunning the PC crowd with "consolized" versions of their game and trying to convince us that the reason for these decisions are to provide a better experience, we know better, and we deserve better. No other platform provides the power and creativity possibilities that the PC does, no other platform makes you jump through hoops to release via digital distribution. Indie developers... I for one eagerly await the games you make because of decisions like this, as I know you only making games you want to make and play. Download This is completely awesome. I'm just fiddling around here in the editor and they give you a few example textures, scripts, models, and entities from UT3. TUTORIAL VIDEOS http://www.moddb.com/members/ephemeratics/downloads I hope someone makes an Infilitration for UE3! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted November 11, 2009 Cue the obligatory "ArmA 3 should use this new engine!" discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted November 11, 2009 It's companies like EPIC that will make sure that PC gaming, or rather gaming in general lives on and thrives - A fantastic decision really. Let the indie games flow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sennacherib 0 Posted November 11, 2009 wow great news, EPIC is an excellent company, thx to them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmakatra 1 Posted November 11, 2009 Cue the obligatory "ArmA 3 should use this new engine!" discussion. I don't think that discussion will start up. The UE3-engine is designed for completely different things. It's like using a racing game engine and use it for military sim... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tukeman 10 Posted November 11, 2009 I don't think that discussion will start up. The UE3-engine is designed for completely different things. It's like using a racing game engine and use it for military sim... Yeah, only a fool would do that ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanctuary 19 Posted November 11, 2009 I don't think that discussion will start up. The UE3-engine is designed for completely different things. It's like using a racing game engine and use it for military sim... [sarcasm]Really, what are they thinking. It is impossible to create one of the best infantry sim ever with the engine of a arena shooter[/sarcasm] Fortunately, not every genius coders listen to that kind of statement. http://dslyecxi.com/botg_infiltration.html http://infiltration.sentrystudios.net/ Because they actually did it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmarkwick 261 Posted November 11, 2009 Staggering news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raedor 8 Posted November 11, 2009 That's indeed interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricM 0 Posted November 11, 2009 When you see those tools or Crysis Sandbox, you really discover that BIS tools really aren't very userfriendly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted November 11, 2009 I don't think that discussion will start up. The UE3-engine is designed for completely different things. It's like using a racing game engine and use it for military sim... You'd think people have more sense than that, but the regular "ArmA should use the Crysis engine" threads suggest otherwise. Leaving that aside, this is good news alright. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sic-disaster 311 Posted November 11, 2009 I don't think that discussion will start up. The UE3-engine is designed for completely different things. It's like using a racing game engine and use it for military sim... UE3 cán be used for military sims, or at least a very realistic game, just as UE2 engine could. Cue R6: Raven Shield and Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndresCL 10 Posted November 11, 2009 UE3 cán be used for military sims, or at least a very realistic game, just as UE2 engine could.Cue R6: Raven Shield and Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45. Or we can stick to the engine that BIS has been developing for over a decade and that is widely used in militaries around the world :rolleyes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f2k sel 164 Posted November 11, 2009 I don't think that discussion will start up. The UE3-engine is designed for completely different things. It's like using a racing game engine and use it for military sim... They can't even make a racing sim out of that engine only an arcade racer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddmatt 1 Posted November 11, 2009 Well of course it would be ridiculous to try making a game like ArmA in that engine. But it sure is possible to make a game with a good level of realism on a smaller scale. Some examples are given above. I downloaded the kit myself. Need to learn how to use it though :o Comes with some good example stuff, including the UT3 demo content. It has some limitations. No dedicated servers, and no mid-level load/save features. I don't know if it's possible for these to be added in somehow. Maybe a dedicated server is possible by making a modified version of the game and somehow disabling the 3D graphics so it doesn't require a graphics card. Save/load, maybe can be done with the scripting engine? Need to remember that you can't touch the source code, so some limitations you'll be stuck with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmakatra 1 Posted November 11, 2009 [sarcasm]Really, what are they thinking. It is impossible to create one of the best infantry sim ever with the engine of a arena shooter[/sarcasm]Fortunately, not every genius coders listen to that kind of statement. http://dslyecxi.com/botg_infiltration.html http://infiltration.sentrystudios.net/ Because they actually did it. Maybe you should realise that Infiltration is not the same type of game that OFP/ArmA is before you pour all your flak on me. Just look at the scale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chunk3ym4n 10 Posted November 12, 2009 Me porting pyro to Unreal engine! http://filebox.me/files/98pxj1esg_pyro.png http://filebox.me/files/btujzb1zp_pyro3.png http://filebox.me/files/0id7iv8vg_pyroburned.png Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanctuary 19 Posted November 12, 2009 Maybe you should realise that Infiltration is not the same type of game that OFP/ArmA is before you pour all your flak on me. Just look at the scale. You mentionned nothing about a game of the OFP/ArmA scale, re-read your own post, you wrote "military sim". Military sim is not equal to "same type of game tha OFP/ArmA, just look at the scale". Infiltration, like OFP/ArmA is a military sim, while unlike OFP/ArmA, Infiltration is focused on infantry combat and so on the scale and details it takes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmakatra 1 Posted November 12, 2009 You mentionned nothing about a game of the OFP/ArmA scale, re-read your own post, you wrote "military sim".Military sim is not equal to "same type of game tha OFP/ArmA, just look at the scale". Infiltration, like OFP/ArmA is a military sim, while unlike OFP/ArmA, Infiltration is focused on infantry combat and so on the scale and details it takes. Look here, I was quoting ch 123. ch 123 was writing about ArmA 3. Hence, my entire post was about ArmA 3 - and games like it. The third sentence, which you're probably referring to, should be put in this context. Thus, the usage of "military sim" in this context would actually mean something like "games more or less similar to the OFP/ArmA-approach of military simulators". I would agree that my original statement was a bit hastily written, but so was your eagerness to bite at it. But for this, I apologise, and my excuse is that (as far as I can remember) I was half-naked, half-air-guitaring Led Zep while writing the original post. So as you can probably understand, my conscience was not fully focused on the post. And I'm not a native English speaker. If you want to get yourself worked up because of this, fine by me. You seem to take it personal, to the point of attacking me. But if I were you, I'd reconsider next time I'm about to launch upon a person writing a post mostly meant to be taken as poking fun at a certain game which you are probably familiar with. It's not constructive for me, not you, nor the atmosphere of this forum. Now, if someone would tell my why the hell I even bother to write this at half past five in the morning I'd much appreciate it. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colt45_GTO 10 Posted November 12, 2009 anyway guys i downloaded this twice from the UE3 site and both times its a corrupt file. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbal Influence 10 Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) (...) I was half-naked, half-air-guitaring Led Zep while writing the original post. So as you can probably understand, my conscience was not fully focused on the post. (...) It's not constructive for me, not you, nor the atmosphere of this forum.Now, if someone would tell my why the hell I even bother to write this at half past five in the morning I'd much appreciate it. Thank you. Did ya find your clothes again? :eek: :confused: Nice post to get the coworking an' cogaming atmosphere back here again! Seriously. From time to time, people need to get back to a broad smile to get back to the origin of this all: entertainment and fascination with high tec! (for me) Remember the broad smile I had when first opening the first mission on OFP1 - it never left me ... :) And now I experienced it again ... LOL ... Edited November 12, 2009 by Herbal Influence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steakslim 1 Posted November 14, 2009 i don't think that discussion will start up. The ue3-engine is designed for completely different things. It's like using a racing game engine and use it for military sim... oh snap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kavoven 4 Posted November 14, 2009 Did you notice that even speed tree is included? If I only had the time to learn all this stuff... :o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colt45_GTO 10 Posted November 27, 2009 how does this work? i mean does it need something els or is it a stand alone? downloaded 3 copies and all were corrupt, were they corrupt or do they need something els to make them install? i'm very good with engines but not this sort. i would love to learn something like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DokiDoki 10 Posted November 28, 2009 Awesome! I will look into this if Arma 2 editing (learning) lets me which is quite unlikely. But I really love the Unreal engine 3 for its looks, wish it had more good games attached to it. Most of the ones using it now are either bad or so so with some exceptions. With a bit of luck someone makes something very nice with this :D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites