No disc required to play

[BeerHunter 0]

Why not, instead of requiring the player to insert the valuable full install disc, include a “play disc†that only has the files required to start the game?

Another possibility would be to allow the user to create his own play disc from the full installation disc if he so desires.

Might even want to consider the possibility of allowing these few files to be copied to the computer so that no disc insertion is required at all.

(And before anyone suggests digital DL I want to point out that so far just about every game I've digitally DL'd has been basically nothing but a nightmare to reinstall and sometimes to patch. Avoid that route like the plague I do. :p )

[mrcash2009 0]

Might even want to consider the possibility of allowing these few files to be copied to the computer so that no disc insertion is required at all.

But then that's a literal NOCD operation and then defeats the entire point of the existence of the copy protection and CD requirement.

[stevevcb 3]

BIS have traditionally removed the disc requirement with later patches, so I imagine that'll happen with ArmA 2 at some point in the future. At least, I hope so.

[cosmokev 10]

But then that's a literal NOCD operation and then defeats the entire point of the existence of the copy protection and CD requirement.

If the legal game generates the no cd theres no problem dimwit.

[Murklor 10]

One game with copy protection, either Securom or Safedisc had an excellent idea (think it was Sacred 2? I'm unsure).

You had two options:

A) Insert the disc every freakin time you wanted to play

B) Validate your key/disc online via their special activation/validation option and never have to insert it again.

Brilliant. Simple. No hassles. If you got the a valid key that is.

After all, the disc isnt the proof we bought the game. In fact the disc doesnt have anything do with it! We bought the license to use the software and the KEY is the proof of this. The disc is the delivery system, nothing more. Having to put it in the computer everytime we play is like putting your phone inside its original box just to carry it in your pocket.

Edited July 24, 2009 by Murklor

[njmatrix 2]

I agree Novalogic does it with their software. Youcan copy the software all you want but you need a valid CDKey to use it. Which is very nice to not have to deal with the cd or dvd all the time

[BeardPI 10]

You had two options:

A) Insert the disc every freakin time you wanted to play

B) Validate your key/disc online via their special activation/validation option and never have to insert it again.

Brilliant. Simple. No hassles. If you got the a valid key that is.

Yeah, Relic's Company of Heroes games have this and probably some of their others. It's an awesome method.

[Alpha-Kilo 36]

I also don't like to play with the DVD in the drive and considered buying the download version of ArmA2 but reading about the problems so many had and the "help" they received from the call centres made me buy the boxed version instead.

I can accept the way BIS has handled this matter so far, but the idea of letting the original DVD create the validation would be an improvement. As long as just the DVD and the PC are involved and no external servers are needed I am all for it.

[bigduksixx 15]

I have the download copy which is activated by a key. There's no reason why that can't be used with the DVD version. Game publishers are idiots, basically, they'd rather punish and piss off legitimate customers than sort things out properly.

[thr0tt 12]

I have the Metaboli version of the game and once installed I can uninstall and then install the UK DVD version and still have the luxury of not needing the DVD in the drive. This is a SecuRom 'feature' so hope that helps :)

[mosh 0]

I have the Metaboli version of the game and once installed I can uninstall and then install the UK DVD version and still have the luxury of not needing the DVD in the drive. This is a SecuRom 'feature' so hope that helps :)

Thanks for pointing that out. I have the Metaboli download with US DVD installed over it.

[Rhodite 3]

BIS have traditionally removed the disc requirement with later patches, so I imagine that'll happen with ArmA 2 at some point in the future. At least, I hope so.

Precisely.

It will no doubt occur again, but as to when will be entirely at the discretion of BIS.

[mrcash2009 0]

If the legal game generates the no cd theres no problem dimwit.

Yes ... but it wont, because that's copy protection .. hence the fact we don't have it as an option. And the fact that would then defeat the object and be like a NOCD operation, as I said.

There are not many flippant posts that make my blood boil but calling me a "dimwit" because it doesn't fit your logic is pretty pathetic, keep your childish comments to yourself thanks.

And yes, BIS did remove it and I agree that it will happen again as and when.

Edited July 25, 2009 by mrcash2009

[echo1 0]

If the legal game generates the no cd theres no problem dimwit.

The irony here is that your post is possibly one of the most idiotic things I've read on this forum in a long time - why would you have a copy protection system for disc checking if you also give out a simple way to circumvent it? :icon_rolleyes:

Why not, instead of requiring the player to insert the valuable full install disc, include a “play disc†that only has the files required to start the game?

Because then you'd just lose that instead. Your proposal to make it possible to make another one would probably make it a thousand times easier for someone to pirate the game. It also depends on you having the installation CD which you are afraid of losing or something. I detect serious circular logic here.

Edited July 25, 2009 by echo1

[bigduksixx 15]

The irony here is that your post is possibly one of the most idiotic things I've read on this forum in a long time - why would you have a copy protection system for disc checking if you also give out a simple way to circumvent it? :icon_rolleyes:

Because then you'd just lose that instead. Your proposal to make it possible to make another one would probably make it a thousand times easier for someone to pirate the game. It also depends on you having the installation CD which you are afraid of losing or something. I detect serious circular logic here.

The system that forces you to have the DVD in the drive is a crap one. All it does is piss off legitimate purchasers.

[MaXyM 10]

so then you have a choice and you can buy downloadable version by steam. then you don't need to insert a CD into a drive. Isn't it simply?

[bigduksixx 15]

DVD should be the same a download, as long as you get a code you shouldn't need the DVD.

[redmotion 10]

Nah. Reason: scumbags copy games.

Why on earth should you want to give them a free ride? If you want to play a particular game on a console, you have to put the right disc in, even if it has installed on the consoles harddrive. Why should it be any different on a PC?

Why should a company endanger itself by making it easier for "honest" people, when its the dishonest people who make these copy protection schemes necessary? You are directing your anger at the wrong people.

If you don't have DVD protection it has to be online activation, which means at an uncertain point in the near future you may not be able to play it at all.

EDIT: Maybe you should look after your DVDs better.

[bigduksixx 15]

Nah. Reason: scumbags copy games.

Why on earth should you want to give them a free ride? If you want to play a particular game on a console, you have to put the right disc in, even if it has installed on the consoles harddrive. Why should it be any different on a PC?

Why should a company endanger itself by making it easier for "honest" people, when its the dishonest people who make these copy protection schemes necessary? You are directing your anger at the wrong people.

If you don't have DVD protection it has to be online activation, which means at an uncertain point in the near future you may not be able to play it at all.

EDIT: Maybe you should look after your DVDs better.

No it doesn't, don't be daft! Seems to me you have a lack of understanding on this issue. Copy protection does next to nothing to prevent piracy. Activation is much better. This is the 21st Century and you shouldn't need to put a plastic disc in a drive to play a game.

[Vandrel 10]

/5char

Edited September 10, 2011 by Vandrel