zenger 0 Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) -=SARMAT=- Studio presents: WIP screenshots of the new project "Wings of Russia".We are glad to inform you on work over new the project "Wings of Russia".At the given stage of fashions includes:IL-76, Ð-50, Jak-40, An-2, An-24, Tu-154, L-39 (small training), MiG-31, Tu-144. The studio SARMAT, works for community, we work, what our favourite game, pleased its admirers with new models. Here which we have shown the list of authors and sources of models on the WIP-screenshots, all models are used by us with the permission of authors. "Wings of Russia" - Silt-76 model(Ð-50) author S.Varnavsky - Yak-40 model l-39 Author Emeljanov A.V. - AN-2 model The Author: Du-mont. The model can freely extend on any site, with a condition that the name of the author will be filled out Edited July 24, 2009 by zenger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted July 20, 2009 Who's the creator this time? Microsoft Flight Simulator? :j: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rstratton 0 Posted July 20, 2009 why does it matter the way i see it the more planes the better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogdanm 0 Posted July 20, 2009 I'm glad to see that you guys are continuing to do quality addons for this ungrateful community. :)) @I44_John I'm still trying to figure out how your post contributes to this thread. Hmmm... nope, you're just trolling. BTW is there a "Report post" button? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Python1 0 Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) Awesome guys, I'll be looking forward to this. It's clear we need some more OPFOR aircraft hope it goes well. Edited July 20, 2009 by Python1 Mistake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RKSL-Rock Posted July 20, 2009 Yep, looks like Flight sim ports to me. Considering the history of Sarmat - have you got proper permissions this time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rstratton 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Yep, looks like Flight sim ports to me.Considering the history of Sarmat - have you got proper permissions this time? like clockwork Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MehMan 0 Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) why does it matter the way i see it the more planes the better It does matter because it's a breach of copyrights. I'm glad to see that you guys are continuing to do quality addons for this ungrateful community. )@I44_John I'm still trying to figure out how your post contributes to this thread. Hmmm... nope, you're just trolling. BTW is there a "Report post" button? We're grateful when somebody actually MAKES something, not just steals it from some other game and ports it, like SARMAT is prone to do. The quality of artwork presented in some of their addons was very varied, from excellent(which was proven to be a port) to average, which was theirs and I like the effort, but I only wish they hadn't used ports. Edited July 20, 2009 by MehMan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Python1 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Well now I feel like an ass for saying I was looking forward to it. What I meant to say was "shame on you SARMAT!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loki 1 Posted July 20, 2009 http://www.alphasim.co.uk/as_freeware.html ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MehMan 0 Posted July 20, 2009 If it is from there, they need to make it loud and clear. It's not their work, it's just a port. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RKSL-Rock Posted July 20, 2009 http://www.alphasim.co.uk/as_freeware.html? Nope, they dont have an IL76 as freeware. Im just waiting to see if they got permission this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Python1 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Well that seems ok, they're open for public use right? I'm confused, are we happy or angry with SARMAT now? I want more planes so I'm hoping we're happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogdanm 0 Posted July 20, 2009 We're grateful when somebody actually MAKES something, not just steals it from some other game and ports it, like SARMAT does. Well you should have proof before you make accusations. You know, people can sue you if you make false accusations that can damage their credibility. Thanks Loki for the link. If I understood right you can modify and release any airplane on the site without asking for permission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RKSL-Rock Posted July 20, 2009 Well that seems ok, they're open for public use right? I'm confused, are we happy or angry with SARMAT now? I want more planes so I'm hoping we're happy. Erm, no Alphasim dont have any freeware models of anything Sarmat have listed. Right now "we're" all waiting to see if they have permissions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogdanm 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Erm, no Alphasim dont have any freeware models of anything Sarmat have listed. Right now "we're" all waiting to see if they have permissions. Can you show me exactly which FS addon they've "stolen"? A link will do just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derk yall 0 Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) The models are nice, that ok. But if there is a mess with permisions and copyrights its bad. BTW: The russian still use the outdated czechoslovak L-39 for trainig? Why not buy the L-159, we have plenty of non-used one wich no-one want to buy :D Edit: Changed useless for non used, sorry my english is bad. Edited July 20, 2009 by Derk Yall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted July 20, 2009 If I understood right you can modify and release any airplane on the site without asking for permission. That's not the point. The point is that they post lots of stuff, and the quality stuff is always imported from some other source, but they don't mention that anywhere in all of their news, suggesting to everyone that they made it themselves. Instead, people have to "reveal" what they did before they (most of the times) admit the source. Like the Day of Defeat Tiger tank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MehMan 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Well you should have proof before you make accusations. You know, people can sue you if you make false accusations that can damage their credibility. I think we have a reason to be doubtful of the true origin of the addons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogdanm 0 Posted July 20, 2009 First of all, sorry SARMAT guys for floding your thread with my posts. :o BTW: The russian still use the outdated czechoslovak L-39 for trainig? Why not buy the L-159, we have plenty of useless one wich no-one want to buy :D Why the hell should they buy useless planes? Unless you're talking about useless as in "not used"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USSRsniper 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Why stealing? maybe they downloaded free 3d models and converted them... Such as from this website http://www.airwar.ru/other/3m.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loki 1 Posted July 20, 2009 well there you have it.... in living proof...hate unjustified. good job with the planes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rstratton 0 Posted July 20, 2009 i love russian 3d model websites. they got the best models Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RKSL-Rock Posted July 20, 2009 well there you have it.... in living proof...hate unjustified.good job with the planes. That doesn't constitute proof, just a possibility. Any there is no hate apart from what you bring yourself. (is that a star wars quote or something? :) ) Lets wait to see what the Sarmat guys say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogdanm 0 Posted July 20, 2009 That doesn't constitute proof, just a possibility. Any there is no hate apart from what you bring yourself. (is that a star wars quote or something? :) )Lets wait to see what the Sarmat guys say? It seems that you want them to have stolen the models... If they prove that they just modified free 3d models will you make a public apology to the SARMAT team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
