Obroa 10 Posted June 7, 2009 look at my post .. beware though its about 2 pages back so might take you a while to find it................ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eraiders 10 Posted June 8, 2009 Contray to the review put forth by PCgames.de, Mission Manhatten is not unplayable or impossible to complete, it just takes alot of effort and time to get completed. LOL, contrary to the review??? When you have to consistently load, reload, and restart a mission to get past all of the bugs and still cannot avoid the major ones, when people report they have spent 24 hours on a single mission trying to bypass the bugs to complete it, then it is UNPLAYABLE. If a reviewer has to spend more than 10 hours trying to complete a mission, then for all intents and purposes it is impossible. This term doesn't mean that you cannot complete it at all, but rather the general public will not be able to or does not have the patience to. Sure all of us on the forums have time to screw around and apparently the blind loyalty to BIS to accept this and say good job BIS, but the general public does not. The whole mission is borked beyond belief. To say anything otherwise is just being ignorant or a homer. It should not be this difficult or frustrating to complete a mission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thyco 0 Posted June 8, 2009 If a reviewer is not spending at least 10hrs playing a game that he ment to be reviewing, especially one on the scale of Arma 2 which is already only for niche market that the general public will not play anyway, then the reviwer is not doing his job. I have played the mission so many times now i and many others are able to complete the mission within 3 hrs despite all the bugs. this game is nothing like other games that come out in the past that are completed in under 6hours of play time. Once again the mission is not impossible or unplayable, not only that but the patches that have come out, have increased the stability of the mission as well, and for the record, i said i probably spent 24hrs on the mission all up doing it twice and most of that was because i refused to restart the mission on the second attempt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheJay 0 Posted June 8, 2009 I'm having a couple problems myself. In the briefing they say I have access to the Armory. I found an ammo truck in the base but unfortunately it doesn't have all the types of ammo that my squads weapons use. It has M249 ammo but no M240B ammo which the machine gunners weapon uses. Is there somewhere else in the base to grab ammo and/or weapons. I have been unable to find anything in the base and my machine gunner is running low. Also my Corpsman doesn't want to heal injured squad mates. I tell him to patch up a guy and he just stands next to him and watches him bleed. Still having a great time with the mission though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoma 0 Posted June 8, 2009 I also have the "cannot go near main camp" bug.Also all the enemies near the camp are simply friends to my squad, untill i get out of my vehicle, then they shoot me... And if i try riding up the hill, there seems to be an instant killzone (rpg in vehicle, magic sniper bullet when running) This could be a great mission if it weren't for the bugs... Turns out this was NOT the enemy camp :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bloodofthedragon 0 Posted June 8, 2009 I'm having a couple problems myself.In the briefing they say I have access to the Armory. I found an ammo truck in the base but unfortunately it doesn't have all the types of ammo that my squads weapons use. It has M249 ammo but no M240B ammo which the machine gunners weapon uses. Is there somewhere else in the base to grab ammo and/or weapons. I have been unable to find anything in the base and my machine gunner is running low. Also my Corpsman doesn't want to heal injured squad mates. I tell him to patch up a guy and he just stands next to him and watches him bleed. Still having a great time with the mission though. There is a weapons cache at FOB manhatten, go to the UAV terminal there is a camo net next to it with ammo boxes. It sits directly behind the officer you speak to in the begining of the mission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lapa 1 Posted June 8, 2009 lol at the people who spend three to four days trying to complete the mission and still insist that it isn't unplayable :D Technically, I guess they're right. :rolleyes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
--)arkRaideR 10 Posted June 8, 2009 I dont even could complete any single mission without these coding mistakes not a singel mission even the shortest one made nothing just troubles there are so many i just list the hardes ones, but therefore i give them for free :D - i can drive a vehicle but therefor the AI maybe shoot or not on enemy - or i choose to shoot by myself but then its not possible to drive in combat cause... AI - cant step out of vehicles without every member of the team is automaticly hurt (slightly) - countless times non responding teammembers, in some missions even ALL did just stand still -on this point i´ve got a sidenote, cause i have to finish the long manhatten mission with my medic always wanted to run to support (who or whatever) so i have to keep him in a vehicle otherwise he always run away :banghead: but keeping him useful in a vehicle ?? look back to the first 2 points so the only thing i can approve now on the 13th day is, that its definitely unplayable even with a newer patch, wheres the joke playing it again ? restarted numerous times so joy was the smallest feeling i had Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eraiders 10 Posted June 8, 2009 No, no, no...you guys don't get it do you? You need to stop complaining. It's YOUR fault that you can't complete the mission, not BIS. You arn't putting in the time needed to work around the specifications of the game. While some games are straightforward, this one requires you to think outside the box and in the end extends the life of the game by forcing you to avoid coding errors (FEATURES!!!) or taking away mission support. If you don't spend atleast 10 hours per mission, then you are the problem, not the game. If you end up stuck in a mission because of unforeseen bugs and cannot proceed and wasted time, then it's your fault you didn't restart sooner! Bunch of ungrateful gamers...:rolleyes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nocturna 10 Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) lol... thats not really true, it would be players fault if you get stuck while doing something you are supposed to do, problem is sometimes the game just doesnt tell you what to do next or doesnt recognize that you just completed something and that it needs to move on to the next task, but if u restart it and do it 10x exactly the same way u did before it "eventually" will work. How the hell is that players fault ? Not to talk about the dumb AI. You must be playing a different game if you dont see that even tho its a great game, its freaking buggy, which is a shame, i'd rather wait another year than seeing such a great game ruined. Edited June 8, 2009 by nocturna Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WarriorM4 10 Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) 2 bugs I have encountered that no one has mentioned. 1st At base you talk to USMC commander,he then tells you to look for the CDF officer near the flag for info on mission,he gives you bio files on the man in question but after asking him that all of the other questions do not work,he just stands there and won't respond to any of them. 2nd, You are tasked with picking up the communist sympathizer(A woman) in the town,forget name. Anyway it gives you her scedule that shes in town then gows to church in the town to the east then either goes home or travels to town further east in her red hatchback. What was hilarious was I took my squad by chopper to this town to intercept her.I took a car and drove to each town and waited at these spots for hours and nothing....hours later I said screw it and got my team back into the car and headed east towards the town where her boyfriend lives.....I get halfway to that town and shes walking west down the road!!!!What the heck??? :386:Its as if she had car trouble and decided to walk home.:icon_lol: LMFAO!!! I also lost fire support and helicopter transport after using a fire mission once on one of the hills to wipe out a camp.After that I had zero support. The bugs are bad but at least some of them are quite laughable.I do believe this campaign,once the bugs are worked out is even better then OFP's as well as Arma 1's.Its excellent being out on your own free to pursue the objectives as you see them and in no scripted order. Edited June 9, 2009 by WarriorM4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okarr 10 Posted June 9, 2009 hm. manhatten. some how my team has split itself. i have a lone guy and the sniper is now team lead. one of the sniper dudes team is stuck in a hind which he can not exit. the machine gunner in the snipers team has shot cooper and wounded him. out of the blue. very odd. i think i ll have to restart this mission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fire 0 Posted June 9, 2009 Hopefully Patch 1.02 will fix this mission.....but i don't belive it i think we have to wait another 2 years as we did for ArmA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okarr 10 Posted June 9, 2009 there is a strange bug at the heli in krasno, at the airfield. there is a russian chopper there. press space and order your troops in. they wont enter. now order them to mount the heli again and afterwards press Y to cycle to the next squad mate. now they will enter. sometimes in the pilot seat, sometimes in the back. you cant get them out again though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WarriorM4 10 Posted June 9, 2009 hm. manhatten. some how my team has split itself. i have a lone guy and the sniper is now team lead. one of the sniper dudes team is stuck in a hind which he can not exit. the machine gunner in the snipers team has shot cooper and wounded him. out of the blue. very odd. i think i ll have to restart this mission. Another thing that is bad is if your in any armed vehicle if you suddenly left click anywhere while driving in the vicinity of friendlies the gunner will start firing on them.I had this happen on Manhatten near airbase,after the gunner killed friendlies at a checkpoint they all got out and shot and killed me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okarr 10 Posted June 9, 2009 i had to abort the mission after 5 hours when the autosave of the ludmilla (forgot her name) escort mission placed me in a position were within 5 seconds of the autosave one of my team mates got shot. the last save i did was from an hour earlier and i really couldnt be bothered to replay everything. i tried everything you can think of.. they would shot the same guy everytime without fail after 5 seconds. :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WarriorM4 10 Posted June 9, 2009 I usually go around and do a few missions then... When you arrest the woman, you escort her to a location and you uncover the main base as it fires upon the heli that comes to extract her I had this happen the first time I did mission,Hind was shot out of sky.2nd time I did it they landed fine and extracted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steinfisch 10 Posted June 10, 2009 When I had to escort Mrs. L??? I switched to another comrade sitting in the HMMWV to "help" him getting through the wood. meanwhile a small fight began. As I switched back to the leader cooper, he wasn't more the leader of the squad. After loading a savegame the same situation: After switching back - 1 man has been independend, not more belonging to the group. After successful end of this submission, all support options disappeared. I han no artillery for the following attack of the camp. ...Awful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor 10 Posted June 10, 2009 I've one bug that the transportion script of the UH-1 didn't work and is really annoying. I hope it will be fixed in the patch on 19. june so I can continuing the campaign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twisted 128 Posted June 10, 2009 When I had to escort Mrs. L??? I switched to another comrade sitting in the HMMWV to "help" him getting through the wood. meanwhile a small fight began. As I switched back to the leader cooper, he wasn't more the leader of the squad. After loading a savegame the same situation: After switching back - 1 man has been independend, not more belonging to the group. After successful end of this submission, all support options disappeared. I han no artillery for the following attack of the camp. both happened to me. Not the end of the world but i had to revert to an earlier save game both times. Thankfully i save regularly. be good though if arma2 asked if wanted to autosave when exiting as the autosave easily gets ruined if you've been wounded or hit by a glitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dznemesis 0 Posted June 11, 2009 can anyone tell me how i can "arrest" someone???? there is the task to find this nikolayev in Khelm village. i found him, but he got a pistol and tries to run away, so i shot him in the legs. but there is no option or anything to arrest him?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MuthaF 10 Posted June 11, 2009 i had to abort the mission after 5 hours when the autosave of the ludmilla (forgot her name) escort mission placed me in a position were within 5 seconds of the autosave one of my team mates got shot. the last save i did was from an hour earlier and i really couldnt be bothered to replay everything. i tried everything you can think of.. they would shot the same guy everytime without fail after 5 seconds. :( Yeah, great feature. I got it even worse: My game autosaved AFTER i was mortally hit, you know the STRANGE delay you often got betwenn getting deadly hit and actually dying from it.. As you can guess, loading game resulted in game over in few secs later, NO REMEDY. Lucky me, suspecting lotta bugs started campaign at regular, so got me an user save.. Not to mention getting shot during char animation... Seems to me, only missions UP TO Manhatten were properly tested, the rest is for us, Beta testers stupid/eager enough to even pay for work we do.. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoma 0 Posted June 12, 2009 Ok so the campaign has bugs... But there's a lot more to the game then the campaign. When i look at Arma2 i do really like where it's going to be after a couple of patches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MuthaF 10 Posted June 13, 2009 Yeah, i see the potential too, but there is sooo many under-developed issues, it kinda quash my hopes.. Like: AI doesn't use buildings AT ALL AI shoots & sees through buildings/vegetation/terain even ! Player/char animation issues Pretty weak if any AI tactics, i don't really see ANY improvement since OFP, nor i see ANY point in having AI Officers except for decoration/role-playing. i think there is more, but these are things which will take MONTHS to fix, if EVEN possible. Whats worse, these are problems, thats been solved several times in many other games, but here they somehow managed to stay for YEARS... I REALLY HOPE this can & will be fixed soon, but this really doesn't strikes me as evolved sequel on new engine(is it just me, or ArmA2 terrain/vegetation looks cartoonish, not realistic?). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abumarwan 10 Posted June 14, 2009 How do you play this mission? Do you just keep progressing through the campaign and eventually you will get to it? Or is it in the missions tab Share this post Link to post Share on other sites