Bee8190 10 Posted September 21, 2011 Is there a decrease in performance if a motherboard is a micro ATX? There's nothing wrong with mic ATX but if you don't need one due to small case i wouldn't go for it. Not as good cooling capabilities as ATX and your GPU ram CPU cooler will get way too close to each other and thus getting some decent aftermarket cooler may not fit than = no OC'ing.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solidsnake2384 10 Posted September 21, 2011 Well if you guys have any reccomendations for a cheap but decent motherboard for an i5 2300 then im open to it and it doesnt need to have p67. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted September 21, 2011 m-atx is fine, only difference is the amount of expansion slots for videocards and stuff. All m-atx boards also fit in regular atx cases. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solidsnake2384 10 Posted September 21, 2011 And i only plan on using 1 graphics card anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bee8190 10 Posted September 21, 2011 Alright, rather quick search but decent boards for a buck... (afaik if you register at newegg you get promocode for further pricedrop :) ) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130576 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128520 Also, have you've gotten the 2300 i5 already or would that be rather favorit for your build? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solidsnake2384 10 Posted September 21, 2011 Thanks for those options! They both seem great but whats the difference between the PCI-E x4 and x16? Different performance improvements? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SM0k3 10 Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) I feel you should never go for older architecture and CPUs when it comes to building a future proof-ish rig you might want to play A3 on.That said, You either get an i7 2600(k), or you wait a bit longer for the new generation processors to hit the market (the already late 8core Bulldozers) and the Sandy E. The GFX card has some mileage left to go, even without giving it a twin in SLi. Point noted, I'll think it over but I will probably more than likely go for the I7 2600k instead of waiting it out for the Sandy Bridge-E(unless it comes out in the next month or 2). I don't really game much, I'm mostly doing web development....so it wouldn't take much for my PC to be future proof. Only games I need my PC to play well are ARMA 2 & 3, Skyrim, Diablo 3 & BF3. :p Edited September 22, 2011 by SM0k3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted September 22, 2011 Thanks for those options! They both seem great but whats the difference between the PCI-E x4 and x16? Different performance improvements? It's the bandwith of the pci-e connection from the gpu to the processor. All boards have at least one x16 connection, almost always the highest large pci-e slot. Put the gpu in there and all will be well. More expensive sandy bridge boards can split the x16 into x8 x8 so you can use sli or crossfire with decent bandwith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solidsnake2384 10 Posted September 22, 2011 So my GT240 would do fine on it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted September 22, 2011 will fit yes. But that GT240 needs an upgrade to a proper card pretty soonish... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solidsnake2384 10 Posted September 23, 2011 I know that. I was asking because im buying the mobo and cpu first and was wondering if i could use my graphics card while I save up for a new one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecat.uk 11 Posted September 25, 2011 Hi troops, I won a gtx 285 on ebay £70 :)but don't get it until next week, i have a 285 and I am going to sli them, at the moment i'm getting 35 fps at high settings on bench 1, has anyone got any clues to what ill see after i sli them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted September 25, 2011 In outdoor areas it will provide a big boost but in built up areas and/or when there is a lot of AI about, the CPU limit kicks in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecat.uk 11 Posted September 25, 2011 I was hoping for better fps in CQ battles :( long range is fine :j: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted September 25, 2011 It will be better in some situations but the CPU limit will rear it's ugly head in others. TBH, it's a lot better now than it was at launch but I don't think we'll see optimization from the ground up for 4+ cores until ArmA 3. We definitely have the hardware but ArmA 2 was not written to take full advantage of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigpickle 0 Posted September 26, 2011 Hey all, I'm getting a new GPU and I have narrowed down to these three within my price range: Opinions a.s.a.p very welcome Gigabyte GTX 560 OC Edition http://www.ebuyer.com/267865-gigabyte-gtx-560-oc-edition-1gb-dual-dvi-mini-hdmi-pci-e-graphics-gv-n56goc-1gi Sapphire HD 6850 Toxic Edition http://www.ebuyer.com/247666-sapphire-hd-6850-toxic-edition-1gb-gddr5-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-graphics-11180-03-40r Sapphire HD 6870 http://www.ebuyer.com/271292-sapphire-hd-6870-1gb-gddr5-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-graphics-card-11179-09-20g Regards Bp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted September 26, 2011 i'll get the 560 for the price range. if you can chip in 30 pounds more, get the Ti version one: http://www.ebuyer.com/254405-asus-gtx-560ti-directcu-ii-1gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-mini-hdm-out-engtx560-ti-dcii-2di-1gd5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bee8190 10 Posted September 26, 2011 Yes, I'd also recommend to add few more quid towards the Ti version. The 560 Ti will perform little better than 560 and if you decide to SLI'em they will kick ass and make it future proof even longer :) Also consider - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-155-EA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigpickle 0 Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) Thanks guys I went for the Asus GTX 560Ti, its fuckin epic! Edited September 28, 2011 by Bigpickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted September 28, 2011 good call there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecat.uk 11 Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) Hi guys, well got my gtx285 and fitted it last night loaded up arma bench mark 1 and got 5 fps with sli enabled 35 with it off wtf am i missing something does sli work in arma? I got a lot of flashing on my screen when the game was at receving q9400 4 gig 800mhz ram 2x gtx 285 xp pro 1200 watt psu I fixed the 5 fps BS seems alt tabbing out and back fixed that however I still only get 29 fps with sli, with it disabled i get 36 fps Edited September 29, 2011 by Polecat.uk more info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solidsnake2384 10 Posted September 29, 2011 For some reason im having trouble buying a motherboard from Newegg. If the problems not solved soon then ill probably just go to my nearby computer store. Ive been thinking about getting this. http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=165292&CatId=6975 Looks pretty good but im not sure. ---------- Post added at 01:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:10 PM ---------- Or maybe this http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=717473&CatId=6975 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted September 29, 2011 get the z68 one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted September 30, 2011 Hi guys, well got my gtx285 and fitted it last night loaded up arma bench mark 1 and got 5 fps with sli enabled 35 with it off wtf am i missing something does sli work in arma? I got a lot of flashing on my screen when the game was at receving q9400 4 gig 800mhz ram 2x gtx 285 xp pro 1200 watt psu I fixed the 5 fps BS seems alt tabbing out and back fixed that however I still only get 29 fps with sli, with it disabled i get 36 fps I get the same thing when the screen is at receiving, very annoying, but ingame it works fine for me (2x gtx260 in sli). In your case you're probably cpu limited with your current settings, but because you now have massive gpu power put the 3d res on 115%, add some antialiasing, shadows high etc. Maybe lower model and terrain detail and viewdistance a bit to increase fps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecat.uk 11 Posted September 30, 2011 I think your right Leon, I have been thinking about updating the cpu but was trying to hold of until arma 3 was in the shops, I will go with an i7 2600k it should be fine with arma 3 I hope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites