wld427 1705 Posted December 11, 2008 the MiG21s we have are more oriented towards interceptor(AA8), strike(Kh25), and CAS(FFAR and CBUs)..... The Mig23 carries the Kh29..... The question is what aricraft shall we choose for anti shipping..... I agree with Su-24..... Plus it gives me a lil more freedom to make bomber and strike versions as well.... i still woudl like to hear more feedback..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fingolfin 1972 Posted December 12, 2008 I would really like to see a Su-24 in these three versions (anti ship, bomber, strike). Su-27 and Su-34 are too modern in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fritz160 wolf 0 Posted December 12, 2008 hmm probbely the TU 22 blackfire "hey it worked in the sum of all fears http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-22M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spooky lynx 73 Posted December 12, 2008 I suppose Su-24 should be chosen - it's much more cheap that brand new Su-34 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[cede]aushilfe 2 Posted December 12, 2008 The Su-27 is too modern in my opinion. At least its 22 years longer in service than the Su-34. But i am assuming that you mean both. Kh-41 Sunburn is made to sink Aircraftcarriers, would be cool to see it ingame, but its "one shot -> ship gone" situation. Kh-31 would be a better choice. It can be fitted to more aircrafts and you will need more of them to make the ship sink in ArmA. The only problem i am seeing atm is that ArmAs dammagesystem isnt made to handle big vehicles like your ships very good. The turrets can be disabled from a direct hit, might be possible to adapt that to other moving parts like the radars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spooky lynx 73 Posted December 12, 2008 In view of Sahrani dimensions I think the best anti-ship plane for SLA would be not huge and long-range Su-24 but something like Su-17M4, MiG-27M/K or MiG-23-98 (upgraded MiG-23MLD variant, able to carry Kh-31 missiles). All these planes can carry Kh-29T missiles which can be easily used against either small or middle-class ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldbear 390 Posted December 12, 2008 I do like to have a Fencer in game, if I had suggested the Mig 21 it's because it's a small versatile sturdy aircraft and it's modernised MiG-21-93 version is known to be able to  carry Kh-25MP (passive anti-radar) or Kh-31A (active radar anti-ship). By the way, a Mig 21 with a Kh-25 / FFAR load out can be the standard SLA Ground/Sea Attack plane. Nobody will disassemble guidance system in order to see if it is a [NATO] AS10 Karen or a [NATO] AS12 Kegler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoRailgunner 0 Posted December 12, 2008 Its ok if you take the Su-27 or the Su-33. Maybe some variants of the "bestseller" MiG-29 could be nice but imho RACS now have a real chance to fight+win against all other countries in air combat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel 0 Posted December 12, 2008 I'd try and keep technology on both sides as low as possible. Giving either side really modern technology, especially in the form of aircraft, could mean a realisitic battle would be over pretty fast. Keeping the planes and weapons old school means there'll be more of a fight to be had. So my vote goes for whatever you have that's oldest but can still kill a ship. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSYCHOSIM 0 Posted December 12, 2008 My vote is with the SU24...................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldbear 390 Posted December 12, 2008 ... Of course, in speaking about Mig 21-23 and it's load out I was thinking about the game and it will be good to have a nice opponent/equivalent for Mirage III. If you are thinking about a weapon system able to kill a boat in one shot or wounded a large vessel such as a carrier, of course SU-24 Fencer is a "must have", for the weapon system SU-24/Kh-29 is dangerous for any ground/naval target. Only the help of a "brother country" can bring SLA Air Forces to use a SU-34/Kh-35 cruise missile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wld427 1705 Posted December 12, 2008 well we can shoot the Kh29 frm the Mig23. (anyone know if it can adapt to the KAB500L?).... thats basically our "missile strike" aircraft above the Mig21s. I was thinking the Su24 to offset the massive "strategic" heavy bombing abilities we gave the RSAF. i would like the SLA to hve the ability to attack and destroy the RSN ships without any type of support. That will keep players from ramming them into the port at corozol and shelling anything into oblivion....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSYCHOSIM 0 Posted December 12, 2008 Will the SLA'gs have any kind of naval support in your plans? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eddyd 0 Posted December 12, 2008 Hey all Im working on a new skin for SU-24 fencer here is a little update on that cya eddyD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSYCHOSIM 0 Posted December 12, 2008 Looking good Eddy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfbite 8 Posted December 12, 2008 Su-24 or mig 23 both a good choice.. Or what about su-17M4? Although I'm not too sure what its naval strike abilaty is like... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wld427 1705 Posted December 12, 2008 We skipped the Su-17\22 series as franze was working on a rather incredible one last i saw. No point in having 2 of the same addon in the game..... we try to work closely with the other teams to prevent that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imshi-Yallah 0 Posted December 12, 2008 Does this mean that you're dropping the M4 pack? Those Paratroopers look nice, as do the tanks, although I feel the M113 variants and other AFVs will really give the landforces their unique character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spooky lynx 73 Posted December 12, 2008 There should be much larger island rather than Sahrani for using all advantages of Su-24 So again I think that some lighter aircrafts for both sides are needed. Maybe just some jet-trainers equipped with weapons (Hawk, L-39/159, MB-339 etc). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VXR 9 Posted December 12, 2008 There should be much larger island rather than Sahrani for using all advantages of Su-24 So again I think that some lighter aircrafts for both sides are needed. Maybe just some jet-trainers equipped with weapons (Hawk, L-39/159, MB-339 etc). Got that covered for the RACS side, RKSL is creating a Hawk T1 for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wld427 1705 Posted December 12, 2008 Does this mean that you're dropping the M4 pack? Those Paratroopers look nice, as do the tanks, although I feel the M113 variants and other AFVs will really give the landforces their unique character. we dont have an M-4 pack.... all our troops are equipped with g-3s, Hk rifles, and FALs also anyone have any infortmation on the KAB500KR? it looks like a giant hellfire.... ive googled the hel lout of it and cannot find any info.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VXR 9 Posted December 12, 2008 Does this mean that you're dropping the M4 pack? Those Paratroopers look nice, as do the tanks, although I feel the M113 variants and other AFVs will really give the landforces their unique character. we dont have an M-4 pack.... all our troops are equipped with g-3s, Hk rifles, and FALs also anyone have any infortmation on the KAB500KR? it looks like a giant hellfire.... ive googled the hel lout of it and cannot find any info.... link1 link2 link3 Dont know if that is the info you are looking for, its what I was able to find with 5 seconds on google. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imshi-Yallah 0 Posted December 12, 2008 we dont have an M-4 pack....all our troops are equipped with g-3s, Hk rifles, and FALs It's an old community joke mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wld427 1705 Posted December 13, 2008 we dont have an M-4 pack....all our troops are equipped with g-3s, Hk rifles, and FALs It's an old community joke mate. LOL i feel like i just fell off the bananna boat.... as soon as i read your post i got it..... been hanging out with my blonde wife a lil too much today.... slowin me down! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wld427 1705 Posted December 13, 2008 hmm probbely the TU 22 blackfire "hey it worked in the sum of all fears  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-22M I really would like a Tu-22.... I even have it converted already. the only issue i have with using it is the SLA do not have a propper airport. Maybee if we had Sahrani source files so i could add one to antigua...... but no tu-22 for now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites