max power 21 Posted November 20, 2006 Just an interjection that I think is semi related to the topic at hand. I think Canada is the only country in the world to have female combat troops (which, by the anecdote of a friend of mine, really messes with the dynamic under fire because stupid MALE soldiers tend to risk themselves to 'rescue' the female ones). I believe the female troops in America would be of the non-combat professions, like drivers / mechanics and such. Obviously, this would affect where you would realistically see female troops if you were to mod them in. Please correct me if I'm wrong about America not having female troops in the combat professions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt_Eversmann 1 Posted November 20, 2006 Germany has female troops too, and not only as medics. I think it was in 2002 when the government decided to let women go to the german army as whatever they want. as I said before I think surely we will get women in an addon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Malcolm 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Please correct me if I'm wrong about America not having female troops in the combat professions. Pilots. Is it "combat" enough for you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellonet 0 Posted November 20, 2006 What?! No women and children... then how will I create horrible mass executions of civilians? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2006noob 0 Posted November 20, 2006 I'm almost 100% there are american female soldiers solely doing combat duty. Btw improortant qestion - when arma naked mod if we to have teh women in arma game!?1 Â Â Â when speaking of sexist bikini focus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H00t74 0 Posted November 20, 2006 DOn't forget the women in the IDF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aeon 0 Posted November 21, 2006 I have a question, it would be a clue for futur voice actors... <span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>(we know publishers could "localize" subtitle or/and voice. So let's stick to the current version released)</span> Civilian/Resistant with OFP:R spoke English with "Eastern" accent. According to the name of Sahrani's towns, would they now speak English (or else) with Spanish accent (or else again) ? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meyamoti 0 Posted November 21, 2006 I'm almost 100% there are american female soldiers solely doing combat duty.Btw improortant qestion - when arma naked mod if we to have teh women in arma game!?1 when speaking of sexist bikini focus. Typical,that is not an important question. If you want women in bikini's in a game then go buy or rent dead or alive extreme volleyball or whatever that crap is. We all know that when it comes to seeing women in bikni's that its usually people wanting see them naked or with some skin,we don't need that filth here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted November 21, 2006 I think he was extracting the proverbial Michael, just a guess though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 23, 2006 Wondering how vbs user made female addons would look in Arma, if they are easily transferrable, of course, Im actually pointing towards Nephillium's Mercenary pack, Jennifer (the female mercenary) is really top notch, love to see her ported over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Malcolm 0 Posted November 23, 2006 Wondering how vbs user made female addons would look in Arma, if they are easily transferrable, of course, Im actually pointing towards Nephillium's Mercenary pack, Jennifer (the female mercenary) is really top notch, love to see her ported over. Well.. they will be not compatible at all. Using diferrent animations, selection names and probably even the basic binding pose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 23, 2006 Gotcha, well, then theres always the Mercenaries version Nephillium made for ofp, I know its basically the same as the vbs, only editted for ofp, ah, guess just have to wait and see.. The mission needs a female combatant!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Malcolm 0 Posted November 23, 2006 Gotcha, well, then theres always the Mercenaries version Nephillium made for ofp, I know its basically the same as the vbs, only editted for ofp, ah, guess just have to wait and see.. The mission needs a female combatant!! VBS and OFP are sharing the same animations and binding pose. So OFP mercenaries are incompatible the same way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted November 23, 2006 Refer to this article citing that female soldiers are banned from land combat positions by the pentagon. I'm not sure whether the article means zones or occupations when it says positions. I'm assuming occupations. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/286893_erbe01.html Ian Malcolm, it would be combat enough for me if it was a combat pilot position Either way, I'm not sure if pilots qualify as troops. By troops I was meaning to refer to land warfare specialists in the American Army. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbuck 9 Posted November 23, 2006 if this topic is still on topic which it apears to be sort of, UC Studios should be making a female mercenary if we can so there will be at least one woman in the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted November 23, 2006 Hmmm... well, I guess the line of conversation goes: 'if the game has females, they should be tastefully done' 'yeah, if they have buxom, bathing beauties before they have female combat troops, I would scream' 'Female combat troops aren't realistic, I don't think' 'Sure they are' 'Well, not according to this' Haha, I'm not sure if this is on topic... but I think we may have exhausted the possibilities to remain totally on the subject of female civilians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 26, 2006 if this topic is still on topic which it apears to be sort of, UC Studios should be making a female mercenary if we can so there will be at least one woman in the game Well that would be awsome, very muchly so. This would instantly add a very nice element that is missing for mission makers whom might want to put in something 'different' and unique in their missions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EiZei 0 Posted November 26, 2006 Considering how rare women actually are in front line combat duties (especially if the scenario is set in the past) and how much work it would be id say those efforts would be much better spent on getting some equipment to balance out sides (OPFOR jet anyone?) or some older equipment and generic insurgents/rebels. Civilian women on the other hand.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted November 26, 2006 Considering how rare women actually are in front line combat duties (especially if the scenario is set in the past) and how much work it would be id say those efforts would be much better spent on getting some equipment to balance out sides (OPFOR jet anyone?) or some older equipment and generic insurgents/rebels.Civilian women on the other hand.. Someone who understands . Missing vehicles/weapons > animals > civilian women models.. What did the resistance civilian women add to OPF:R? Absolutely nothing... and BIS bothered making all the models, animations and even weird high pitched voices.. for nothing. Female soldier is just not realistic in combat, we either have many women in the forum impersonating men or we have men with: a) Unexplainable desire to "be" a women in the virtual world. b) Disturbing desire to kill women in the virtual world. c) Dont go out very often... This crying for women models reminds of someone... who would waste lots of money on shoes, but wouldnt wear half of them . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbuck 9 Posted November 27, 2006 What i was trying to do was create a mercenary not an enlisted soldier, mercenaries are from private organisations so either male or female people can line their ranks i've seen a couple of interviews with female CPO's so they do exist. If you dont like the idea then dont download the addon once we release it simple as. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted November 27, 2006 What i was trying to do was create a mercenary not an enlisted soldier, mercenaries are private organisations so either male or female people line their ranks i've seen a couple of interviews with female CPO's so they do exist.If you dont like the idea then dont download the addon once we release it simple as. I havent seen any in Iraq ... Anyway i was just pointing out their relevance in Arma, considering there are units that would add alot more to the game, i wasnt refering to user made addons either so please disregard my coment . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbuck 9 Posted November 27, 2006 Sorry for having a go, i just think its an area that isn't seen too much so we will hopefully fill the gap. regards HH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Journeyman 0 Posted November 27, 2006 What did the resistance civilian women add to OPF:R? Absolutely nothing... and BIS bothered making all the models, animations and even weird high pitched voices.. for nothing. Female soldier is just not realistic in combat, we either have many women in the forum impersonating men or we have men with: a) Unexplainable desire to "be" a women in the virtual world. b) Disturbing desire to kill women in the virtual world. c) Dont go out very often... Just because you don't know of any women soldiers, or more to the point, women who enjoy shooting games, doesn't mean that there aren't any! My wife happens to enjoy FPS games and is keener to play them than me half the time! I also happen to know of a few other women that are into PC soldier sims! If you played any of the R3 series you will know that there are female playable characters in them too complete with female voices etc.! And what about Lara Croft? In short a balance would be good and I personally would like to see some women modelled into ArmA both as civvies and as soldiers! I was a bit disappointed to see the current line-up of civvies in ArmA! I hope BIS will change this as time goes on! The world is not populated entirely by rough looking beach boys on vacation! Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paragraphic l 2 Posted November 27, 2006 I somewhere hoped that the shown civies would be a part of the West units and you could choose real Sahrani's as an other side and such... ah well, this is not something I really demand on release so BIS does not have made a really bad decission by not implementing more local looking civies. some well made replacement pack will solve both the civies as the female things pointed out here somewhere in the (near) future Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 28, 2006 Personally, why *shouldnt* there be women units avaliable, were not talking about some game like Cod, or such that is limited to only combat scenarios, were talking about a game that has huge opportunity to make very immersive large scale missiions, where for a breif time one really 'lives' there, not just fighting the whole time, where the player can get many opportunites to meet and interact with other ai peoples, maybe join a rebel group, maybe cut scene lil chat with some locals to get some info, etc etc. If Arma is is Ofp but hugely upgraded, why would anyone think it couldnt use some 'high' quality women units with so many possibilities, theres really alot of games out there that are great that allow women combatant companions, u know why I think they did it, cause its different, because its fun to have some neat in game times adventuring with a female combatant at ur side. Kotor, Kotor2, Oblivion, aside from having women as companions there are tons of ofp missions where u interact with ai women of all sorts, not in some cheesy way, but its still 'different', or should we live in a world where theres only men, and if theres women, they certainly should not have guns? I dont agree with any such view that limits potential of what could be a really nice addon for missions that might compliment the use of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites