Car running on water?

[martinovic 0]

I think sugar cane is good. It is probably furhter advanced then this watercar, ethanol driven cars are common in Brazil and work normally.

[walker 0]

I think sugar cane is good. It is probably furhter advanced then this watercar, ethanol driven cars are common in Brazil and work normally.

Hi martinovic

The hydrogen car in the first post works and is actually an easier convert than to ethanol. It also safer than ethanol.

As a source of energy ethanol has exactly the same problems as solar. You use up valuable food crop growing land to create a transportable energy.

The method I have is more efficient and cheaper than ethanol.

I know how to extract the hydrogen from another source which is non polluting and the original energy generation source is also none polluting.

I also know ways to extract additional energy from the hydrogen fueled city electricity generators to make them more efficient and methods to produce useful byproducts from the whole process, such as food and several metals that can be used in the engines already mentioned in the original post.  These would increase the whole industries profitability.

Any one got the 20 Million dollars or Preferably Euros to pay the start-up costs?

Any venture capitalists out there.

Anyone want to be in at the start on a company that will be bigger than Texaco, Mobil, BP and Shell combined within ten years?

Kind Regards Walker

[PainDealer 0]

If only I had 20 million euros lying around ....

anyone smart enough to invest into that tech will be ridiculously rich in let's say 5 - 10 years. and the arabs will lose they're biggest business if they're not smart enough to invest in hydrogen but of course, they got the oil, they'll try to run the business as long as there is any of it left.

I'm sure there are many ppl interested in it so those 20mil could be divided into fractions

[Jinef 2]

Uh oh, Walker's record is broken ....

Someone stop him.

[theavonlady 2]

Uh oh, Walker's record is broken ....

Someone stop him.

All you have to do is to mention untrustworthy neocon Republicans.

EDIT: Just the mention of them causes Walker to produce enough steam to power New York City for 2 days.

Aha! I've uncovered his secret!

[walker 0]

Hi All

Jokes are fun but let us keep it on topic.

The water fueled car mentioned in the first post works and for the first few thousand possibly as many as a million who use the method it would be cheaper than petrol. Plus there are probably tax breaks but the problem is the method used to create the metal as part of the chemical battery uses energy and that uses conventional energy sources. These original energy sources are based on Hydro Electric or fosil fuels.

It comes back to the basic question of how to generate the initial power. There is a way. It uses known and already tried and tested technologies. It is only slightly unconventional.

I know how to do it. A way to extract the hydrogen from another source which is non polluting and the original energy generation source is also none polluting.

Any one got the 20 Million dollars or Preferably Euros to pay the start-up costs?

Any venture capitalists out there.

Anyone want to be in at the start on a company that will be bigger than Texaco, Mobil, BP and Shell combined within ten years?

Kind Regards Walker

[Messiah 2]

yes... so i'll take this 20million I've got sitting here, and give it to a complete stranger who hasnt yet proved his method works...

[lwlooz 0]

I dont quite get this? This is about hydrogen fueled cars right?

How is that news?

Afaik the big problem facing scientists and the industry is to find a nice and easy way to transport that stuff as "fuel" in your car.

And someone please find 20 million before walker goes nuts.

[Rhodite 3]

http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/adv_tech/100_news/heritage_center_051206.html

GM are well on the way

[walker 0]

Hi all

Messiah the technology to generate hydrogen I am refering to is all existing technology; nothing new except the way it is all put together as a process.

If a person with 20 milion was about and they wanted to invest I would not want them to give me any of the start-up cash other than a wage as a project director to get the project going. I would want the big money of a 5% royalty on all profits from anyone on the process.

I would not expect anyone to invest unless the idea was to proved them. They would have to sign an Non Disclosure Agreement and agree to my having that 5% royalty to see the proposal.

lwlooz Rhodite yes Hydrogen cars have been around for decades http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_car

That is not the problem. The problem is generating the hydrogen without creating polution.

I know how to do it. A way to extract the hydrogen from a source which is non polluting and the original energy generation source is also none polluting.

Any one got the 20 Million dollars or Preferably Euros to pay the start-up costs?

Any venture capitalists out there.

Anyone want to be in at the start on a company that will be bigger than Texaco, Mobil, BP and Shell combined within ten years?

Kind Regards Walker

[Necromancer- 0]

Walker...

You need to get in contact with your government, a car manufacturing company and energy corporations.

[InqWiper 0]

Quote[/b] ]Any one got the 20 Million dollars or Preferably Euros to pay the start-up costs?

Any venture capitalists out there.

Anyone want to be in at the start on a company that will be bigger than Texaco, Mobil, BP and Shell combined within ten years?

Add this to your sig and go get a patent.

[HellToupee 0]

Hi HellToupee

Methane as a source of hydrogen is a polluting as it is a fosil fuel. Guess again.

guess again for what?

if hydrogen was so cheap and easy to get we would all be using it, because your conspiracy theroy aside far more governements and people have more to gain from removing their oil dependancy, eg china.

[EiZei 0]

Our goverments are unwilling to invest in nukers (proven technology) to reduce oil depedency.. some experimental technology seems even more far off.

[ozanzac 0]

Not neccessarily water powered, but worthy of mention for this thread.

CNG Powered Honda Civic

The idea of using the already existing gas infrastructure, in your home, for filling up a car, is ingenious! It makes me wonder, why it took so long for an automobile manufacturer to offer a Compressed Natural Gas powered car, given that I've known of CNG busses trundling around in the local public transport system for years.

Sure, the slow fill up time might be bit of a let down and the  lack of properly equipped refuelling stations limiting it's range to 320 km, but heck, for daily short commuter trips. It's perfect! If only it were on sale here!

[walker 0]

Hi HellToupee

My method of producing the hydrogen from a non polluting source with energy generated by a non polluting method would be relatively cheap; just the cost of the generating plants.

I agree the governments USA, China, Europe, etc. do want cheap non polluting energy that does not use fossil fuels but big oil and gas certainly do not. Big oil and gas has trillions invested in oil and gas reserves they buy the rights to from nations. The technology I am talking about would kill their energy industry in a decade. It is called a disruptive market entrant. It is the thing most conservatives fear, not communisim but revolutionary capitalism.

The US is not big oil. Big oil is just some fat old conservatives from all over the world Russians, Arabs, Israelis, Europeans, South and North Americans etc. with too much money and a conservative hatred of inovation. Innnovation disrupts their source of income.

Conservative means maintaining the status-quo so the already fat cat can stay fat.

It is an economic and historical fact that no industry lasts much more than 100 years. Innnovation gets rid of them. Innovation is liberal and free thinking and anti conservative and gets rid of obsolete conservative industry.

I know how to extract the hydrogen from another source which is non polluting and the original energy generation source is also none polluting.

Any one got the 20 Million dollars or Preferably Euros to pay the startup costs?

Anyone want to be in at the start on a company that will be bigger than Texaco, Mobil, BP and Shell combined within ten years?

Kind Regards Walker

[lwlooz 0]

I will tell you this walker.If you think that your method of creating hydrogen fuel is that good that your to-be company would become larger than all oil companies (Which is like .. an amazing feat), go patent it,find investors and get incredibly rich.I wouldn't waste my time on a forum for a game which attracts like people who have usually not very much spare money at all,leave alone millionaires

[simba 0]

bacteria ?

[nindall 0]

Quote[/b] ]Any one got the 20 Million dollars or Preferably Euros to pay the startup costs?

Anyone want to be in at the start on a company that will be bigger than Texaco, Mobil, BP and Shell combined within ten years?

10 years doesn't leave you much time for development! What about transporting, storing and distributing your hydrogen? Don't forget you need people with hydrogen powered cars/generators/boilers to sell it to!

[EdGrrr 0]

Walker, your method for generating hydrogen sound very much like a displacement reaction. Why not just dump some potassium in the water - that would create hydrogen sure enough!

[Jinef 2]

I wonder what would happen if you dropped a lump of potassium the size of the UK into the atlantic ocean .....

Complete destruction or a funny fireball that bounces from continent to continent?

[Daddl 10]

hot water for everyone...

[Thunnder Bunny 0]

Yep this topic has been around for awhile. I posted info a long time ago about aquafuel...I think it was in this forum?

If you want to build a small test chamber for yourself heres a link aquagen

More scientific test results if you want them.Aquagen blazelabs Since power gens can use the fuel they make , it's kind of self reciprocating to a point. Downside is co2.

I think people have a better chance to fix their own fuel problems with this kind of setup. Rather than trying to upset the whole oil company monopoly. Kind of like the bio diesel / cooking oil people right now.....you can take cooking oil off of peoples hands right now for free, and power your car or truck....but once people see a market for it...it's gona cost you.

[D.murphy man 0]

I wonder what would happen if you dropped a lump of potassium the size of the UK into the atlantic ocean .....

Complete destruction or a funny fireball that bounces from continent to continent?

heh i remeber seeing a science video back in school (in wales also! ) of some guy throwing a HUGE rock of the stuff into the lake.With pretty fun results..

Also that auqa fuel is kinda cool!

[Thunnder Bunny 0]

On a recent episode of mythbusters, they took some plans and crap from the internet to test alternative fuels and fuel conservation devices.  

In one way it's good that they prove this stuff wrong, and show viewers that unscrupulous people will defraud you with promise of free energy.      

But by watching all this the viewers might see the whole thing as fantasy anyway , if you don't show them tested and working ideas at the same time.

I don't think anything can stop people from using things like aquagens , Water-gas, bio-diesel for personal use, you just can't profit from it.  Since most methods are patented.   But I could be wrong......I'll start saving my pennys for you walker