Heatseeker 0 Posted October 7, 2005 I and many people here have experienced D3D not available or out of memory errors with OPF, it seems like a comon thing with older and unsuported D3D games not working on current PC's. It sucks. Recently i found a old game under the bed and decided to install it to play with it a bit (Hitman 2). It would run but sometimes the graphics would mess up and the game would crash. The solution i found was simple, open the games ini file and make it run in openGL, problem fixed . <table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">DrawDll RenderopenGL.dll Im not very knowledgeable in this area but i feel that OPF would be more "reliable" if it would run in opengl too, there really are alot of D3D related problems in the troubleshooting forum. I think ARMA would also be more reliable and ensure a trouble free longer life span if it supported openGL. Thoughts? . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snoops_213 75 Posted October 7, 2005 Nice idea, but don't see it happening (at least in this title). I'm sure with what has been done to the engine that memory and graphical issues should be mostly solved. Re-Writing the engine(again) to incorperate OpenGL is crazy and maybe wait until Game2/3 to add it if need be. Who knows DX10/11 might be out by then and running smoothly( ). Seriously though all it may have needed(OFP) is a re-write of the engine to make things cleaner. Lets see how ArmA goes and then we can make suggestions for the next release. Just my 2cents Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted October 8, 2005 Yes but openGL games seem to suffer from less compatbility issues when new HW comes out, i remember a long time ago when people started posting about D3D crashes and problems, when the ati 9700 came out, when the FX series came out and now all the problems with the GF6 series. I think ARMA's longevity would be best assured if the game supported openGL, especialy considering how fast HW is progressing and new products are coming out. ARMA will be OPF's last incarnation so to speak and i would like to be able to run it properly for a very long time and not run into problems with future HW . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colossus 2 Posted October 8, 2005 You know that Microsoft are planing to drop OpenGL when Vista comes, right? Well they are gone have it as a layer on Direct3D though, but it is said it's preformence might reduce 50% if that happens. So how much point is it to have OpenGL then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted October 8, 2005 You know that Microsoft are planing to drop OpenGL when Vista comes, right? Well they are gone have it as a layer on Direct3D though, but it is said it's preformence might reduce 50% if that happens. So how much point is it to have OpenGL then? this is not exactly true ... when game runs in fullscreen this scenario don't apply ... it happens only if You run OpenGL game in windowed mode and in same time Vista Direct3D features are in place (desktop/windows etc effects) ... if You turn them off ... GPU OpenGL driver will be used directly again ... wrapper is just to avoid Ogl to colide with D3D ... so for now i don't see OpenGL dead ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reclus3 0 Posted October 8, 2005 The one thing dont like about Open GL, is the fact that its easier to make graphic cheats ( I hope that it is called that ). I remember alot of the other FPS games I have played with OpenGL had cheats that used it to change the colors of players so they were easier to see. Not saying that it is easier to do cuz i honestly dont know, I just remember that cheats were a big problem when OpenGL was used. If Im wrong I apologize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted October 8, 2005 The one thing  dont like about Open GL, is the fact that its easier to make graphic cheats ( I hope that it is called that ). I remember alot of the other FPS games I have played with OpenGL had cheats that used it to change the colors of players so they were easier to see. Not saying that it is easier to do cuz i honestly dont know, I just remember that cheats were a big problem when OpenGL was used. If Im wrong I apologize. it's same easy to do cheats on D3D ... so this is just Your feeling ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EiZei 0 Posted October 8, 2005 The one thing  dont like about Open GL, is the fact that its easier to make graphic cheats ( I hope that it is called that ). I remember alot of the other FPS games I have played with OpenGL had cheats that used it to change the colors of players so they were easier to see. Not saying that it is easier to do cuz i honestly dont know, I just remember that cheats were a big problem when OpenGL was used. If Im wrong I apologize. I think this has more to do with many popular online FPS games using opengl than opengl itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S.O.S 0 Posted October 9, 2005 i remember i cant alt+tab right with 90% of the opengl games so fuck it, a client version for linux is not gonna be released either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted October 9, 2005 My point was about ensuring longer compatbility, longevity and avoiding all the problems people experienced when OPF started to become troublesome with newest HW and stuff. Because its better to have the option to run the game in openGL even if unable to alt-tab than to be stuck with D3D and not being able to play the game properly at all.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kegetys 2 Posted October 9, 2005 It's much much easier to make task switching ("alt-tabbing") to work when using OpenGL than when using Direct3D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R3MF 0 Posted October 9, 2005 i'd like OFP/AA/G2 games all to be written in OpenGL, if only because it is a cross-platform open standard. regardless of whether BIS are good enough to release a Linux client, an OpenGL renderer would make running it in Wine much less problematic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bensu 2 Posted December 8, 2005 I really would like to see a linux client. But without opengl, there is no chance... Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GBee 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Likewise I would like to see a linux client and opengl would be central to this, but it is unlikely to happen with ARMA. Perhaps we can persuade BI to make a linux client for Game 2. Although few developers would even think of linux a year ago by the time Game 2 arrives they won't be able to ignore it. Two thirds of the gamers I know, and that is a lot, are already using linux. Most only use Windows for games and the rest don't even have it installed, preferring emulation where available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
void_false 1 Posted December 10, 2005 Likewise I would like to see a linux client and opengl would be central to this, but it is unlikely to happen with ARMA.Perhaps we can persuade BI to make a linux client for Game 2. Although few developers would even think of linux a year ago by the time Game 2 arrives they won't be able to ignore it. Two thirds of the gamers I know, and that is a lot, are already using linux. Most only use Windows for games and the rest don't even have it installed, preferring emulation where available. Will second that! Althought topic is a bit old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Espectro (DayZ) 0 Posted December 10, 2005 Likewise I would like to see a linux client and opengl would be central to this, but it is unlikely to happen with ARMA.Perhaps we can persuade BI to make a linux client for Game 2. Although few developers would even think of linux a year ago by the time Game 2 arrives they won't be able to ignore it. Two thirds of the gamers I know, and that is a lot, are already using linux. Most only use Windows for games and the rest don't even have it installed, preferring emulation where available. So what you saying... The gamers you know only use windows for games... well, that makes sence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites