Everon Defence Force soldiers

[offtime 0]

Quote[/b] ]we will give them polish Beryl's and Vist pistols

I'll take the Bren gun then.

Eeee....

whats wrong with Beryl ?

Beryl is cool

[AKM 0]

Regarding the BREN requests, I'm from the Commonwealth, but not technically British.

Thing with the BRno-ENfield is that it is one of the best automatic rifles / light machineguns of all time. The L4 variant fires the same 7.62x51mm NATO ammunition that the SLR / FN-FAL / C-1 / Dozens of other designations fires.

Makes logistics a Hell of a lot easier then.

What I would personally recommend are SLRs or FN-FALs, L4 pattern BREN guns, FN-MAG/58 medium machineguns, and the good 'ol M-2HB or L-1A1 (Essentially the same weapon, some differences between American / British service) for an HMG.

Thusly you have two primary ammunition types to supply to your line units, 7.62x51mm NATO and 12.7 ammo / .50 cal.

Gives them a bit more in the way of 'standing out' than the typically American-supplied gear.

[CanadianTerror 0]

Yes, but they arent using a fnfal as a basic weapon so how does having a bren gun help out with logistics?

This is my point.  

EDIT: But I would agree with your statement otherwise.  

My old man was a bren gunner back in the day

[AKM 0]

Yeah, I just jumped in on the tail end of the conversation there and decided to answer the Bren question as best I could and then justify it with the Almighty Logistics Grail.

*Insert obligatory comment about looking good and hoping for relatively soon release date here.* Some interesting CTI conversions may come out of the release of these units.

[dvargar 0]

Then I'd say Fn Fal/Ak4 (not ak47), glock 17 sidearms, Bren, Vickers (for very entrenched positions) And a L-1A1.

All of them personally modified by the EDF team for Everon conditions.

edit- Also, aye, I'm a non-brit.  

[Lt_Phoenix 0]

I'd suggest either the MG3 or FN Mag as the main HMG used by these forces. Both are used by lot's of countries around the world.

As for assault rifles and LMG, maybe the FN FAL. I know both Canada and Argentina made some LMG variants with modified barrels.

For SMG's, maybe UZI or Sterling SMG. I think MP5 would be to modern and expensive to use.

As for sidearms: Beretta, Browning HP and Colt 1911 seem the obvious choice.

Just my 2 cents

[bucket man 2]

I would say that the basic assault rifle should be FN-FAL because of the ammunition&logistics, its not too modern and not too ancient. Its the AK-47 of the western world.

The modern variant of the Bren LMG would also be a good choice because of the shared ammo with the FN-FAL and its unique. Theres not too many L4 Brens in OFP.

Maybe give the special forces something older than MP-5... like the french MAT-49.

.50 cal HMG is also a good choice.

For sidearms I would go with Colt 1911.

[dvargar 0]

If EDF is going to use a modified L-1A1 hmg, lets figure out what to modify and give it a uniqe designation.  

[CanadianTerror 0]

I think someone from EDF needs to moderate this convo because people dont read previous posts where this was discussed before and say the same things over and over (although good suggestions) but...it kinda goes nowhere.

Perhaps an updated and finalized post telling people what "they" will and will not use for weapons and small arms.

[Ironsight 1]

Perhaps an updated and finalized post telling people what "they" will and will not use for weapons and small arms.

Well we still don't have a good list yet. We only have a SIG-540 but even that one is unsure because Kooky who is working on the textures is out of action for a long time

So suggestions are still welcome

[fingolfin 1972]

Ok, in this case I will post some suggestions:

1. G3 and MG3 (as squad machinegun and mounted on vehicles).

2. FN-Fal and FN-Fal LMG as squad weapons and FN-Mag or Browning M2HB for vehicles.

3. M16A1 (with 30rd mag) and M60.

4. Ak-47 and RPD as squad weapons and PK or DShK for vehicles.

5. SA Vz.58 and UK 29, PK or DShK for vehicles.

[Rikki Tikki Tavi 0]

Let's turn this into the dating game: "2!!! Pick number 2!!!! "

[kakagoegie 0]

I like number 1 the most  

And why, (from worldguns.ru):

Quote[/b] ]Since that time and until the 1995 the G3 in various modifications served as a general issue shoulder weapon not only for German Armed forces, but also for many other countries. Those include Greece, Iran, Mexico, Norway, Pakistan, Portugal, Sweden, Turkey and many other countries. Total of more than 50 countries during the last 40 years issued the G3 to its forces. The G3 was or still is manufactured in countries like the Greece, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, Portugal and others. The key reason of high popularity of the G3 is that it is much simpler and cheaper to manufacture, than its major contemporary rivals - Belgian FN FAL and US M14.

[stgn 39]

NO Number 3 light, reliable and accurate(the M16A1) and its the only one in 5.56. Well actualy It would be better with a M16A2 with A1 rear sights and full auto.

STGN

[Vietnow 0]

I'd like the idea of a FN FAL so number 2 gets my vote, there aren't enough addons that use the FN FAL

[DB-ERAUPilot 0]

Option 1 gets my vote...both are good weapons and could be supplied by NATO allies instead of just the U.S. or the Soviets...

[Greg147 0]

Not particulatly keen on any of them, but 1 or 2 gets my vote.

3, 4 and 5 have been used to much in flashpoint. Give them Ak47s and Vz. 58s and you might as well have a retextured resistance.

[bunkerslusken 1]

Though, we must take in to consideration the fact that the everon resistance used a lot of vz .58s, which must mean at some point their armed forces were using them.

Maybe the not-so-fully fighting forces could still be using them.

Like in sweden we still use G3s for the national guard, while the main armed forces use the newer 5.56 FNC Rifle.

Similarly, the Everon defence forces could be using vz58s in some parts and a newer weapon for the mainforce and special forces.

I vote G3, for the same reason kakagoegie did. It is very widespread, and it is kind of NATO without being American.

Though for the MG I would suggest the PK. Could have been stolen ones from the Cold War Crisisâ„¢, that were kept for the sake of good performance. Remember, It's right up there with the MG3 and FN MAG performance-wise. (the M60 is NOT)

EDIT: and as for a mounted .50 cal weapon The M2HB gets my vote. Also very widespread, and a very stable weapon.

[akd 0]

How about the Galil as a primary? The Columbian Army uses it even though they are strongly linked to the U.S. military. A nice option for a "West-supported" indigenous army.

[CanadianTerror 0]

Quote[/b] ]G3 and MG3 (as squad machinegun and mounted on vehicles).

Perhaps the SIG-540 could be used for a commando/SF type unit whenever the addon is ready?  

EDIT: My reason for no fnfal would be because (and i dont even know if they will ever release it) the NAFP is using them and it'd be nice to have these guys a bit different while not going all out US or Russia...weaponwise.

Also, The Turkish pack coming out is using G3's so there might be a good source to get them from if that works out.

[fingolfin 1972]

How about the Galil as a primary? The Columbian Army uses it even though they are strongly linked to the U.S. military. A nice option for a "West-supported" indigenous army.

This would also be a nice option. Perhaps togther with the FN-Mag.

[Rikki Tikki Tavi 0]

With all the wide open spaces on Everon, I'd personally want to stay away from a 5.56 weapon, that extra umph in 7.62 would be pretty tempting for me.

Also, the only argument for FAL I can think of now is that it looks cooler.  

[dvargar 0]

Fal and Vickers.... mmmm.... Vickers....

[Nemesis6 0]

AK74s need to make it into the armory somehow. The Soviets left the island in a hurry, the same way they left Afghanistan probably: Left the place littered with hardware.

[stgn 39]

AK74s need to make it into the armory somehow. The Soviets left the island in a hurry, the same way they left Afghanistan probably: Left the place littered with hardware.

Americans took most of it I guess.

STGN