USA Politics Thread - *No gun debate*

[jakerod 254]

English isn't his first language. As for naming names, we're not that suicidal and at least I hope to have a future in the brave new world. If you the need specifics, you have the second Alexandrian Library at your disposal, uncensored for now.

They most certainly don't shy away from subverting all of the 'great' things American:

]http://www.vancouversun.com/news/4692948.bin?size=620x400[/img]

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Great+Caesar+Ghost+Superman+renounces+American+citizenship/4691203/story.html

Citisen of the World:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/28/us-superman-idUSTRE73Q93X20110428

;)

I liked the reuters one. "If he doesn't stand for American then he doesn't stand for anything." Exactly, because there is no other view in the world other than that of the USA. Hear that people from other places? You have no views! </sarcasm>

[Iroquois Pliskin 0]

Exactly, the belief in the exceptionalism with regards to basic laws of math & societal structure, may very well be the collapse of the US. The people could not care less if that happens, for they bear no flag, no allegiance to any nation, nor pronounce any oath that you've ever heard of.

The beauty of international business is that, there are billions of people, both able & willing to compete with Americans in the fields that have not yet been displaced by automation & robotisation. Essentially, manual workers in the US are competing with slave labour world-wide, with the effects being - destruction of the 'middle class' of the United States, and hopefully, elevation of those still in poverty to what may be defined as lower-middle class, or the working class.

China's one child policy was a business construct, and it most certainly helped to stabilise their internal affairs, somewhat. ;)

P.S. This latest bin Laden drivel, it's an obvious set-up with so many benefits for the right people, that I've never seen such brilliance, apart from several other events, displayed in my life - you discredit the US, you anger the Muslim world, you provide a jolly good show for the rest of the world, hell, people from India have been commenting & laughing at the US since May 1st, just perfect, perfect timing with mobile Internet on the move all over the Globe. Not to mention it's a distraction for the local populace that is facing a collapse of the USD and their life-time savings.

You then ignite the spark and see a pressure release valve, which had been intentionally shut with a enormous weld over it, come off. Brilliant.

Edited May 4, 2011 by Iroquois Pliskin

[BigMorgan 11]

Not to mention it's a distraction for the local populace that is facing a collapse of the USD and their life-time savings.

I pray for this every day. Student loans begone!

[Iroquois Pliskin 0]

I pray for this every day. Student loans begone!

I think it would be a great deal for gaining students' support of the new currency, seeing as the impotence of the 2 previous, and current admins. got the economy where it is.

;)

[Hans Ludwig 0]

NIA On Why America's College Bubble Is Next To Burst

For those of you hunting for bubbles, and wondering why the Federal government is the biggest source of credit in each and every G.19 release, here is a hint of what's coming next from an NIA press release:

America's College Bubble Next to Burst

The National Inflation Association (NIA) is pleased to officially announce that it will soon be releasing its hour long documentary 'College Conspiracy', which will expose the U.S. college education system as the largest scam in U.S. history. NIA has been producing 'College Conspiracy' for the past six months and plans to release the movie on May 15th. NIA members will be given the first opportunity to watch this must see documentary, which we hope will change the college education industry for the better.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/nia-why-americas-college-bubble-next-burst

[BigMorgan 11]

I will do everything in my power to pop that bubble. :cool: :p

[Hans Ludwig 0]

The government released a report on the extreme weather so far in 2011 and observed that some of the patterns were similar to those of a century ago.

Birthplaces of Politicians

I think you posted the wrong link.

[Hans Ludwig 0]

Polls Show 1 in 5 Americans Support Right to Secession

Earlier in the month a headline on the Rasmussen Report website reported that “21% say states have right to secede.â€

That figure was derived from the results of a survey of 1,000 adults conducted on May 30-31, 2011 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error was +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys was conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. The poll was conducted by telephone and 21% of respondents claimed to the right of state to leave the union and form an independent country. While that percentage is well below the 64% that disagreed with that principle. Fourteen percent reported being undecided on the issue.

CONTINUED

http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/7860-polls-show-1-in-5-americans-support-right-to-secession

[froggyluv 2136]

^^^^

This provision of the Obamacare scheme

All I needed to see to know this ain't unbiased reporting.

Let em secede and watch em cry for federal dollars when the hurricanes, tornadoes, floods hit. Watch em cry when they get invaded by mexican drug cartels.

They like to act and talk tough but they aint shite.

[HyperU2 11]

They should still receive US financial aid in the event of disaster, God knows other countries do.

[froggyluv 2136]

I wouldn't give em squat outta my hard earned tax dollars if they had the arrogance to secede. You are no longer a part nor an ally of the good ol US of A.

Handle your own expenses. Ol school fiscal Conservatives know this.

[Innomadic 10]

They should still receive US financial aid in the event of disaster, God knows other countries do.

Thats like a kid screaming at his parents for not letting him do what he wants and then expecting pocket money...

If anything else, if that happened, their legitimacy would be discredited.

Not to enslave. ;) To free them from religion, national borders, to facilitate trade. 'They' go by many names throughout history: League of Nations.

Yes, the organisation (originally) founded in order to prevent another world war and maintain national integrity, to prevent conflict, wanted to dictate their religion and destroy their borders

Its like with Obama in your country, " I'm not going to say i know all the history between the US party's problems and quarrels but i know it makes it pretty hard for Obama to run his office at this point " i do believe hes intentions towards America are good and to create a stronger country for the future. I don't believe hes intentions are to destroy your nation, but the opposite side is doing everything to make a disbelieve towards the out side world of that man.

I'm not saying hes going to solve everything, but darn why make it so difficult to make something happen for that person? And why caring that much where he is born he lives for hes family and he wants to address the problems at hand, hmmm he is the baddest man ever seen i guess, i just cant quite believe that you know. Then again i see comments of those opposed Americans that he did not changed anything yet, well call me a joker but its darn hard if you ask me to press bills and the opposed side is voting against it or making it difficult on everything he wants to achieve?

Kind regards

*speaks like Eddie Izzard*

Do something the Republicans say! So Obama goes off and does something, and then the Republicans go "na na nah, thats not what we wanted, you're doing nothing at all, you're hopeless! And Obamas just sitting there giving them the finger...

I mean seriously...demanding something be changed, hamstringing that change and then blaming him for not doing anything is low...real low...

Edited June 18, 2011 by Innomadic

[froggyluv 2136]

I'd lmao if Texas "President Perry" got invaded and asked for Washington's help only to be met with "sorry, we're reducing spending on foreign wars now".

[Iroquois Pliskin 0]

Trading Of Over The Counter Gold And Silver To Be Illegal Beginning July 15

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/trading-over-counter-gold-and-silver-be-illegal-beginning-july-15

From: FOREX.com <info@forex.com>

Date: Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Subject: Important Account Notice Re: Metals Trading

To: xxx

Important Account Notice Re: Metals Trading

We wanted to make you aware of some upcoming changes to FOREX.com’s product offering. As a result of the Dodd-Frank Act enacted by US Congress, a new regulation prohibiting US residents from trading over the counter precious metals, including gold and silver, will go into effect on Friday, July 15, 2011.

In conjunction with this new regulation, FOREX.com must discontinue metals trading for US residents on Friday, July 15, 2011 at the close of trading at 5pm ET. As a result, all open metals positions must be closed by July 15, 2011 at 5pm ET.

Chit, mang, it's 1929 all over again. :( By the way, to have a forex account open, even with a third party broker, you need to present valid ID & proof of residence, if you're a U.S. citisen, or any other citisen for that matter.

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Yes, the organisation (originally) founded in order to prevent another world war and maintain national integrity, to prevent conflict, wanted to dictate their religion and destroy their borders

It has succeeded in its mission as far as I'm concerned. United Nations had placed their HQ in New York for a reason, also.

[froggyluv 2136]

Supposed threat of the U.N is exaggerated. They are not one mind. If they were, why does the U.S veto all of the U.N's security measures against Israel?

Many opposing interests lie there as one would expect from an International body.

[Iroquois Pliskin 0]

Supposed threat of the U.N is exaggerated. They are not one mind. If they were, why does the U.S veto all of the U.N's security measures against Israel?

Many opposing interests lie there as one would expect from an International body.

There is really one interest, one which I won't be naming on the forum.

Why is UN perceived as a spineless organisation? Actually, it's a brilliant setup that they're running: US is granted military authority over this planet allegedly against the will of the UN. Who do you think wanted the war in Libya? Iraq '91? The peoples of the world are already screaming at the supposed de facto rule of the planet by the United States, and what do they demand...? They should be demanding the delegation of more executive power to the UN, but there isn't the right crisis for that, yet.

There's another angle to this, if let's say, a world war breaks out in the Middle East later this year, UN has effectively failed right? Well, when the guns fall silent, it'll be reforged by the same people with the same interests and goals into a more monolithic structure ala the EU. Can you imagine, if again, let's say, a nuke went off somewhere in India, a nuke of Pakistani origin, or a tanker gets blown up by another nuke in the Persian Gulf, hell, a tanker with a nuke goes off in some US port.

That would be the end of national sovereignty.

[froggyluv 2136]

I just don't buy that shadowy, overlord belief that only has one goal. There are far too many egos and interests in the world to allow a few illuminati at the top to call all the shots.

Russia ain't going to cater along with the U.S under the U.N if we were to say, start an aggressive first strike action against N.Korea. They ain't havin it no matter what Joe Illuminati says at the top.

If they had one goal and you know it -you need to state it or all discussion is pointless as I have no agenda to dissect with reason :p

[Iroquois Pliskin 0]

I just don't buy that shadowy, overlord belief that only has one goal. There are far too many egos and interests in the world to allow a few illuminati at the top to call all the shots.

There comes a point when sex, money, even power ceases to have its chic, and you start looking around to further yourselves as persons, Human beings. That event happened many moons ago, what you're witnessing is the effect of it.

Russia ain't going to cater along with the U.S under the U.N if we were to say, start an aggressive first strike action against N.Korea. They ain't havin it no matter what Joe Illuminati says at the top.

That's why there were no Russians rubbing shoulders with Eric Schmidt & co at this year's June Bilderberg meeting in Switzerland. I'm Russian myself and the people on the landmass of the Russian Federation are viewed as collateral damage at this point, rightfully so I might add: too many un-utilised resources that they're not willing to share. ;)

P.S. If I can think of it, why can't it be done? C.I.A. is still up and running, C-130s full of cocaine en route to their destinations; I'm not being original here, everything had been thought of before.

Edited June 18, 2011 by Iroquois Pliskin

[Hans Ludwig 0]

I'd lmao if Texas "President Perry" got invaded and asked for Washington's help only to be met with "sorry, we're reducing spending on foreign wars now".

Why would we ask for help when our GDP is equivalent to Russia's?

[froggyluv 2136]

There comes a point when sex, money, even power ceases to have its chic, and you start looking around to further yourselves as persons, Human beings. That event happened many moons ago, what you're witnessing is the effect of it.

Not sure I'm following you. Sounds like enlightenment talk when we were discussing worldwide corruption.

That's why there were no Russians rubbing shoulders with Eric Schmidt & co at this year's June Bilderberg meeting in Switzerland. I'm Russian myself and the people on the landmass of the Russian Federation are viewed as collateral damage at this point, rightfully so I might add: too many un-utilised resources that they're not willing to share.

Yet they remain a powerful voice and vote in the U.N -that doesn't help world dominators!

Why would we ask for help when our GDP is equivalent to Russia's?

We? Ahh I see. Well good luck on your new country and President who believes in ancient Day's of Prayer for Rain during biblical droughts.

Trust me, Texas will be lacking as a Soverign Nation and i hope we militarize the border against them should they secede.

Patriots? My a$$. Patriots hope and act for the good of the nation regardless of political climate or ideaology. These are whiners who cry when things aren't exactly as they want.

[Iroquois Pliskin 0]

Not sure I'm following you. Sounds like enlightenment talk when we were discussing worldwide corruption.

This is where we differ, you see corruption and enslavement, I see enlightenment of the masses, albeit through shock therapy sometimes.

Yet they remain a powerful voice and vote in the U.N -that doesn't help world dominators!

That's until a nuke goes off somewhere, at some point, ahem, and it can be made traceable to any banana republic you like. Game changes, when multiple black queens appear on the deck. In 'our' favour. ;) Most of the traders I know expect WW3 somewhere down the line, in this decade - can't let the 100th Anniversary of the First World War go to waste, and when people expect such an event, it usually does occur. What is it: make-believe, proper analysis of the current trends? Doesn't matter at that point, remember pre-9/11 movements.

Edited June 18, 2011 by Iroquois Pliskin

[maturin 12]

Most of the traders I know expect WW3 somewhere down the line, in this decade.

Would you be referring to the geniuses that brought us the Great Recession?

[froggyluv 2136]

This is where we differ, you see corruption and enslavement, I see enlightenment of the masses, albeit through shock therapy sometimes.

Lol, I don't remember saying I believe either. I was saying that you seem to see a rogue, shadowy overlord group in the UN and perhaps meeting in Switzerland -but now you have changed your stance to one that they or their overall existence of being will be a catalyst for world enlightment...? Perhaps you are meaning that thru mass destruction, we will learn?

That's until a nuke goes off somewhere, at some point, ahem, and it can be made traceable to any banana republic you like. Game changes, when multiple black queens appear on the deck. In 'our' favour. Most of the traders I know expect WW3 somewhere down the line, in this decade - can't let the 100th Anniversary of the First World War go to waste, and when people expect such an event, it usually does occur. What is it: make-believe, proper analysis of the current trends? Doesn't matter at that point, remember pre-9/11 movements.

I remember a group led by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and others who had a group planning on how to carve up the Middle East -before 911 if thats what your referring to.

As far as our puppeteers planning a happy happy WW1 memorial nuke strike to create God knows what -I highly doubt it. Nobody wins a nuke strike and probably everyone loses -even Bilderbergs.

[Iroquois Pliskin 0]

Lol, I don't remember saying I believe either. I was saying that you seem to see a rogue, shadowy overlord group in the UN and perhaps meeting in Switzerland -but now you have changed your stance to one that they or their overall existence of being will be a catalyst for world enlightment...? Perhaps you are meaning that thru mass destruction, we will learn?

There were no shadows that day, it was a rather cloudy afternoon,

rNTEiH2OULA

;)

We can't generalise it as mass destruction, you need to go event by event to find the purpose of each one.

I remember a group led by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and others who had a group planning on how to carve up the Middle East -before 911 if thats what your referring to.

In part, yes. Patriot Act was written well before 9/11, also.

[froggyluv 2136]

Hehe, I was half expecting the killer rabbit from Holy Grail to show up and slay them all -same landscape ;)

Looks like a pretty friendly benign group -but then again......so did that rabbit