Cheat and cheat prevention discussion

[Westy 0]

Sicilian, i sent you a PM please check it and reply to it mate

[Blackden 0]

Quote[/b] ]that screen shot does not prove he ws cheating

lmao...sure that screen shot not prove he was cheating, he have plenty of cheat in is OFP directory, he still have them for play in a public game, but this prove nothing.

It like your brain, he is certainly fully of intelligence but nothing prove that u use it when u come here for post.  

[Westy 0]

Mal, he showed me his OFP dirc trhough a SS and the files were in therem i then got him to open the config file where it displayed Wireframe = 1 thus meaning wireframe has been enabled on this game at some point.

[Westy 0]

Also, im wondering if from the server it can save the log files? is this possible?

would be good

[benu 1]

Also, im wondering if from the server it can save the log files? is this possible?

would be good

The linux server does save the logfiles. For the windows server you could use -netlog, which generates huge logs full of superflous data, or you have to find a way to get the logs from the server somehow, but i guess you would need to modify the executable for that...

[Westy 0]

Rgr thanks

[RN Malboeuf 12]

Mal, he showed me his OFP dirc trhough a SS and the files were in therem i then got him to open the config file where it displayed Wireframe = 1 thus meaning wireframe has been enabled on this game at some point.

you can by pass any file check by altering wireframe, scanning for it will allow you to catch only the guys that just loaded it, also they now have a rotating class which efectively bypasses all file checks, there's little you can do now

I'm was aprt of the OFP anti cheat team before it sizzled out, and all of us knew the file checks fail to much, a third party program was recommended, each client would need it to actually conect to the servers that are running it and these programs would auto update and self check them selves, but since we thought OFP2 was going to be released we held off, now that it's been delayed I will get the ball rolling on it's creation, I have two Programers under my payroll and will have them alter the program needed for this, and I will ask Certa for his help

[Westy 0]

Mal, he showed me his OFP dirc trhough a SS and the files were in therem i then got him to open the config file where it displayed Wireframe = 1 thus meaning wireframe has been enabled on this game at some point.

you can by pass any file check by altering wireframe, scanning for it will allow you to catch only the guys that just loaded it, also they now have a rotating class which efectively bypasses all file checks, there's little you can do now

I'm was aprt of the OFP anti cheat team before it sizzled out, and all of us knew the file checks fail to much, a third party program was recommended, each client would need it to actually conect to the servers that are running it and these programs would auto update and self check them selves, but since we thought OFP2 was going to be released we held off, now that it's been delayed I will get the ball rolling on it's creation, I have two Programers under my payroll and will have them alter the program needed for this, and I will ask Certa for his help

Sounds cool!

[Blackden 0]

This is a great news, all the best for your guys...

[sicilian 0]

@blackden

I reconsidered cause it is a program which could be placed everywhere on hdd to work. Therefore you will not detect the ones who put it in another directory!

Its only a simple cheat detection method. You will never get the ones whos really want to use those tools but noobs.

Rereconsider!

After doing some tests on it, I came to conclusion the tool could be started from everywhere but if you use it together with ofp it will drop its files to the location of the ofp.exe.

This files are the config_gl.ini and config_dx.ini

They were always dropped there you cannot change this! So you could check them without risk!

[Waterman 0]

Good work. Looking forward to this tool you have Mal...

[russin 0]

his tool should be ready when OFP2 comes out

[Waterman 0]

I knew that, was just employing a bit of sarcasism...

[Major Fubar 0]

Please keep cheat/anti-cheat discussion here - I know it's an old thread, but it's better than a new thread for each discussion

[Gadger 0]

Catch me on msn mal - manc_gaz@hotmail.com after this weekend and I'll pass you on IP info, btw we already know who it is as the site/user is registered with the isp and its a static IP.

[RN Malboeuf 12]

Please keep cheat/anti-cheat discussion here - I know it's an old thread, but it's better than a new thread for each discussion  

and give the cheaters a 1 stop shop for ideas

ummm nooooo

[RN Malboeuf 12]

Catch me on msn mal - manc_gaz@hotmail.com after this weekend and I'll pass you on IP info, btw we already know who it is as the site/user is registered with the isp and its a static IP.

from what the TKC told me in their PM on their forums was that it was they who shut it down due to copy laws, they probably did, they blathered on about me sneaking into TKC and Copy laws and I told they waived all rights by using malicious scripts on private server and that thier Entrance agreement statement is in no way a legal document since there is no signing by a witness by a notary as do to our country law

[Waterman 0]

Yep they think they can hide behind their supposedly "copyrighted" material, when infact it is them that alter the Flashpoint.exe and so on... pff If anyone's breaking copyright, its them.

[Espectro (DayZ) 0]

Actually, in denmark for instance, its perfectly legal to copy games for own use, alter .exe to avoid the need for CD, alter the .exe for your own Hobbys sake, and/or alter the .exe if you think the software can be any harm to your pc (CTDs for instance). Also, the EULA isnt legal in denmark, meaning that you dont have to follow it. This applies only if you cannot install the software if you dont press accept agrrement (or whatever)...

The end to all... What they do, is perfectly legal if they had their servers in denmark, and they bought the games here.

Although the law also claims, that you cannot make any harm to others... and i think they made some kinda flodder, right?

I dont know, whether or not THATS legal, but if some1 heres an legal expert - we could make another Jacko prosecution against them for harrasment.

Its really sad to see people like them ruining ofp mp... I, for one, only play on closed private servers now. I checked their boards, and man... they are really stupid - they actually believe they are doing the community a favour by incriesing playability?

[Espectro (DayZ) 0]

1 thing i dont get...

Why wont bis do anything against these? I mean, its only a 4 year old game... Bliz still making anti cheat patches to a 10 year old game....

Not a single word... will support be as bad for ArmA and game 2? I remember the first 2 years of OFP, bis support was great! They were fast out with patches etc. But they never really took cheating seriously - will it be the same with ArmA? Some word would be nice, so we would know weather or not to be buying a server

[RN Malboeuf 12]

Actually, in denmark for instance, its perfectly legal to copy games for own use, alter .exe to avoid the need for CD, alter the .exe for your own Hobbys sake, and/or alter the .exe if you think the software can be any harm to your pc (CTDs for instance). Also, the EULA isnt legal in denmark, meaning that you dont have to follow it. This applies only if you cannot install the software if you dont press accept agrrement (or whatever)...

The end to all... What they do, is perfectly legal if they had their servers in denmark, and they bought the games here.

Although the law also claims, that you cannot make any harm to others... and i think they made some kinda flodder, right?

I dont know, whether or not THATS legal, but if some1 heres an legal expert - we could make another Jacko prosecution against them for harrasment.

Its really sad to see people like them ruining ofp mp... I, for one, only play on closed private servers now. I checked their boards, and man... they are really stupid - they actually believe they are doing the community a favour by incriesing playability?  

it may not be illeagal there but US and canada have extridtion rights and the FBI can yank them from the country if they allow it, for they wont do it, but if I hack Jeobs PC and put child pron on it based out of US im sure FBI will give him a call lol

Did you know here in canada a IT tech cn call the RCMP if illeagal pruducts or kiddy porn is found on your PC

as a Tech we can plant what ever we want with proper time stamps and send any one to jail lol

[Major Fubar 0]

This is getting offtopic. Please stick to OFP cheat prevention.

International copyright law and "kiddy porn" are well out of the realm of this topic, and are bordering on breech of forum rules regarding content. Please consider this a final warning.

[Espectro (DayZ) 0]

Actually, in denmark for instance, its perfectly legal to copy games for own use, alter .exe to avoid the need for CD, alter the .exe for your own Hobbys sake, and/or alter the .exe if you think the software can be any harm to your pc (CTDs for instance). Also, the EULA isnt legal in denmark, meaning that you dont have to follow it. This applies only if you cannot install the software if you dont press accept agrrement (or whatever)...

The end to all... What they do, is perfectly legal if they had their servers in denmark, and they bought the games here.

Although the law also claims, that you cannot make any harm to others... and i think they made some kinda flodder, right?

I dont know, whether or not THATS legal, but if some1 heres an legal expert - we could make another Jacko prosecution against them for harrasment.

Its really sad to see people like them ruining ofp mp... I, for one, only play on closed private servers now. I checked their boards, and man... they are really stupid - they actually believe they are doing the community a favour by incriesing playability?  

it may not be illeagal there but US and canada have extridtion rights and the FBI can yank them from the country if they allow it, for they wont do it, but if I hack Jeobs PC and put child pron on it based out of US im sure FBI will give him a call lol

Did you know here in canada a IT tech cn call the RCMP if illeagal pruducts or kiddy porn is found on your PC

as a Tech we can plant what ever we want with proper time stamps and send any one to jail lol

same thing in denmark, since kiddie porn is ilegal... but a changed .exe isnt. This doesnt only apply to a tech support, but to any person suspicious of anything.

Anyway, I just hope we can get this anti-cheat thing to work.... Or just BIS would release some ip-banner for the server. Maybe mission makers could script anticheat into their missions? Like in missions where there are no choppers, a script will be actvated when there is one, globally telling that a player is cheating.

Im also sure that all the vehicles called by the cheat-thing has unique names, right? So a script checking for these names every 15 seconds would detect them?

Im sure they would change names with patches and stuff... But im sure that all the kids cheating, would get tired of it, and would return to playing Counter-strike.

[sicilian 0]

Only a small info:

The OFPSentry is already detecting those cheats even the newer ones.

[Espectro (DayZ) 0]

Only a small info:

The OFPSentry is already detecting those cheats even the newer ones.

Yea, but we need server admins to demand it...