killagee 0 Posted July 3, 2004 Got sent this on email the other day. it was news to me, so excuse me if you've all heard of this weapon already... Link: Soldiertech Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted July 3, 2004 I think this belongs in OT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted July 3, 2004 Never heard of it before but it looks like one very solid sniper-rifle (like all Barrets). Very short too. Do you know the caliber? My first guess would be 7.62 considering the slim barrel, but on the other hand it might as well be .338 or 30.06 or whatever. nm. I read the article now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted July 4, 2004 It's been advertised in the usual magazines for a while -- S.W.A.T., Guns & Ammo, American Rifleman etc. It's not a sniper rifle. It's chambered in 6.8mm, a cartridge considered as a replacement for the 5.56mm. Even the XM8 is being considered for being chambered in this new cartridge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
black__bird 0 Posted July 4, 2004 Special Weapons for Law Enforcement and Military has a pretty expansive article on it in the issue with the Alexander Arns .50cal BeoWulf on the cover Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted July 4, 2004 6.8mm eh? Weapons in new calibre's rarely seem to catch on with the military, to much cost involved... Look at the P90 - the 5.7mm round is really quite revolutionary, but so far relatively few militaries have invested in it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt. FrostBite 0 Posted July 4, 2004 The P90 is used. Special forces use it as a replacement for the MP5 for CQB fighting. The extremely small size and large mag (50 rounds) make it quite usefull. The 5.7 caliber is not a real drawback. Although I mus admit it's used in only a few countries. A shame, because this weapon is really good. The 6.8 caliber seems to be quite popular among SOF. Some SF-guys already had their weapons modified to this caliber. The 6.8 is a real improvement over the 5.56 which lacks the punch to take a guy out on range. It's not unlikely that the 6.8 will (in the future) completely replace the 5.56 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordy 0 Posted July 4, 2004 6.8mm eh? Weapons in new calibre's rarely seem to catch on with the military, to much cost involved...Look at the P90 - the 5.7mm round is really quite revolutionary, but so far relatively few militaries have invested in it... I heard that's the US policy to change it. First they convinced all NATO to use 5.56 mm. So, there are rumours that US wanna mess again. This time with 6.8 or so. FBI (not sure if it's true) were forced to use 10 mm ammo for greater power and penetration. Besides it's business like no other. Especialy in US. Bradley was crap at first, still they wanted to use it. It's all about money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted July 4, 2004 Not only that, the FBI was the driving force behind the development of the 10mm Auto cartridge. They still use it quite a bit, although there are now other good alternatives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordy 0 Posted July 4, 2004 Not only that, the FBI was the driving force behind the development of the 10mm Auto cartridge. They still use it quite a bit, although there are now other good alternatives. like 50 cal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted July 5, 2004 Not only that, the FBI was the driving force behind the development of the 10mm Auto cartridge. They still use it quite a bit, although there are now other good alternatives. like 50 cal. Try .40S&W and .357SIG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Schweitzer 10 Posted July 5, 2004 Do I have to rub the screen in order to make the picture visible? If you every had a real transformer in your life you know what I am talking about. And for the others: NO I wasnt making a naughty yoke! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt_Eversmann 1 Posted July 6, 2004 Also really "heavy" is the Barret XM109 25mm Ammo. One word: "Ouch" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRedBaron 0 Posted July 6, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Cpt. FrostBite -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The P90 is used. Special forces use it as a replacement for the MP5 for CQB fighting. The extremely small size and large mag (50 rounds) make it quite usefull. The 5.7 caliber is not a real drawback. Although I mus admit it's used in only a few countries. A shame, because this weapon is really good. The 6.8 caliber seems to be quite popular among SOF. Some SF-guys already had their weapons modified to this caliber. The 6.8 is a real improvement over the 5.56 which lacks the punch to take a guy out on range. lol 5.7 and 6.8 CALIBER? thats a small bullet  dont you mean mm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted July 6, 2004 lol 5.7 and 6.8 CALIBER? thats a small bullet  dont you mean mm If he actually meant 5.7 Caliber I'd say that's a very big bullet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gollum1 0 Posted July 6, 2004 And for the others: NO I wasnt making a naughty yoke! Err it didn't cross my mind, but it did yours apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRedBaron 0 Posted July 6, 2004 @shadow: oh ya whoops so is 50 caliber acctually .50 caliber? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted July 6, 2004 @shadow: oh ya whoops so is 50 caliber acctually .50 caliber? Yes. For handguns and rifles, caliber refers to a fraction (or multiple) of an inch diameter, so a .50 caliber bullet has a nominal diameter of half an inch. With large-diameter weapons like artillery pieces or naval cannons, caliber refers to the ratio of the overall barrel length (BBL) to the bore diameter. The 16" guns on WWII-era battleships were 50 (not .50!) caliber, because they had 50x16" = 800" long barrels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted July 7, 2004 Just be careful no to confuse .50BMG (M82 Barrett etc.) with .50AE (Desert Eagle etc.) .50 BMG .50 AE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzlie 0 Posted July 7, 2004 And don't forget about smoothbore weapons witch has different system of clasification It is really mess with this. I like to watch Discovery Channel and i often laugh on them because of translations: very often .50 for them means 50mm... So if u write 5.7 or 6.8 it is taken as inches, so u need to add mm. But of course as intelligent ppl as we knows that in that case it is mm not inches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted July 7, 2004 Just be careful no to confuse .50BMG (M82 Barrett etc.) with .50AE (Desert Eagle etc.).50 BMG http://www.aa-ok.com/1112q.jpg .50 AE http://www.special-warfare.net/data_ba...._01.jpg Just a little addition: The .50 BMG is 12.7x99mm I can't remember the length of the .50AE, but the Action-Express is also 12.7mm in diameter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USSoldier11B 0 Posted July 8, 2004 hmm, well obviously it uses the Eugene Stoner rotating locking lug and forced gas blowback operation. (AR series rifles). Just looks like a souped up M-16 to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rishon 0 Posted July 8, 2004 I wanna get an M-8... Not some reworked M16. the 6.8 SPC has been talked about for a long time, but I doubt we are going to use it unless it becomes the new NATO standard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted July 8, 2004 I'm sure we'll see a new rechambered version of the M8 soon .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
