noundo 0 Posted April 7, 2004 I'd like to point out that I have zero real world military knowledge. I don't know if the US forces have dedicated winter camo, or if they do/don't wear bandanas/beanies/helmets, nor do I know what OD's are. With this lack of knowledge I have the luxury of not caring. I am new to addon making and saw an opportunity to make some troops that didn't come with the original pack and that other people might be able to use. Â ... And a good job you did!!! IMO though the bandanna guys just look too much like the BIS Spetznatz, and around here the only people I see wearing bandannas are bald guys and rednecks!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C4P741N 0 Posted April 7, 2004 so how bout olive drab suits for entry teams? Quote[/b] ]I'd like to point out that I have zero real world military knowledge. Â I'm all for new ideas Sgt. Stryker but photos of what you want would save me the time of googling for 'olive drab suits'. Â @noundo: I'm glad you like them. Unfortunately there is little I can do in the way of removing the bandanas from the model as I haven't been able to get O2 running on my machine and I'd prefer not to remove the model from the pack altogether. Captain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MEDICUS 0 Posted April 7, 2004 That's a nice job you did here, C4P741N! Great looking units, same as your Winter USMNC-Units! Â Will you retexture the Naval Speznaz the same way? Some OPFOR-Units in this style would be sweet! Â Mfg MEDICUS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
calm_terror 0 Posted April 7, 2004 The Marines need ot be wearing over whites for their winter set not some made up winter MARPAT.. over whites are these.. OverWhite 1 OverWhite 2 OverWhite 3 these are army but the marines use the same overwhites as the army does Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruff 102 Posted April 8, 2004 howd you edit textures without using o2? im learning just how to use o2 at the moment but editing textures would be mad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Stryker 0 Posted April 8, 2004 its kinda hard to see but you get the gist of it Yeah its a toy and its not green but its all the same concept heres a good pic, maybe you should just make it gray heres a tan version.... hmm im getting an idea So now Im thinking make 3 more versions of these guys in O.D. Grey and Tan, but DONT call them recon. Name them USMC F.A.S.T. company (Fleet Anti-terrorism Security Team) you will be a god if you do this. The models are perfect (only use the guys with helmets, use the guy with the beanie for the sniper NO bandana man) make thier "equipment" (that is now woodland) black, add some of liquid snakes faces and you have the best anti terrorism/cqb units for OFP. Hope this helps if you want help as me i'll see what I can do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Stryker 0 Posted April 8, 2004 Hey I just made some olive drab textures for these guys and I want to give them to you. it was actually easy after I made the all white ones. But anyways pm me with your emial or msm name and I'll give them to you in a zip or somthing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C4P741N 0 Posted April 8, 2004 I've edited my first post with a link for the Urban units. I updated the orignal d/load to contain these aswell. @MEDICUS Quote[/b] ]Will you retexture the Naval Speznaz the same way? Some OPFOR-Units in this style would be sweet! Quote[/b] ]I will be updating the Winter USMC I made aswell as thier RNI counterparts, so that these units and the wusmc will have adequate OPFOR. @calm_terror: only your last pic works for me but I'm now looking into doing this for the updated Winter USMC @Stryker: Sounds good, PM sent edit I thought I'd put a link here for the Urban update only: Urban Force Recon Captain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThePara 0 Posted April 8, 2004 FAST (Fake Ass SEAL Team) Companies don't conduct Hostage Rescue or CQB operations as so many people believe. While they are trained for it, it isn't their main mission. Their main purpose is Anti-Terrorism, instead of Counter-Terrorism (Delta and DEVGRU stuff). The reinforce embassies if a terrorist threat is expected, etc, etc. They were of the first guys into Liberia and Haiti and dress just like any normal USMC Infantyr units does. Suchey's regular Marines would be a better portrayal of them. However, USMC Force Recon does wear those OD and tan CQB uniforms. Pictures can be seen of them wearing the tan ones on Direction Action operations in Afghanistan. Â Also, are there any plans to make a boonie hat model? Force Recon in Afghanistan http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/marines/z_usmc07.jpg Force Recon Training ------------------------------------------------------------In Iraq: http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos....aaf.jpg http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos....aad.jpg http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos....aan.jpg http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos....aao.jpg http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos....on3.jpg Copy the shortcuts and post them into the browser, clicking never works with militaryphotos shots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt. FrostBite 0 Posted April 8, 2004 I believe the force recon guys switched from nomex flightsuits (tan and OD) to normal bdu's (woodland, desert ect). The Nomex flightsuits are hotter and less comfortable than the BDU's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cozza 24 Posted April 8, 2004 Cool units C4P741N. Allready making a mission with them. Its quite good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MEDICUS 0 Posted April 8, 2004 @MEDICUSQuote[/b] ]Will you retexture the Naval Speznaz the same way? Some OPFOR-Units in this style would be sweet! Quote[/b] ]I will be updating the Winter USMC I made aswell as thier RNI counterparts, so that these units and the wusmc will have adequate OPFOR. Ok, Ok! I know .... first read carefully ... and after that, read it again. Then post. Â But thx for your answer and THX for making the RNI-Units! Â Mfg MEDICUS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Stryker 0 Posted April 8, 2004 "FAST (Fake Ass SEAL Team) Companies" sorry man but that was very assholish of you. These guys do just as much anti/copunter terrorism as the seals do. Anyways its not like the MFR ever fought RNI at an island called Nogova? Dude really think brofre you post, you have no idea who could be on these foroums, what if someone here had a son in FAST hed ripe your sorry ass apart. Be nice dude or pay the consiquences, thats worse than country bashing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
calm_terror 0 Posted April 8, 2004 isn't FAST made and trained for retaking US Navy ships nothing more. it use to be called something these. oh yeah tactical Forces. if I had passed my MEPPS exam I would have been that. it is the SWAT of the marine corp. they handle stuff that MP's can't and back up the guard gate as well as pull embasscy duty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSpencer 0 Posted April 8, 2004 SRTs are the SWAT team of the Corps, based on land. FAST teams are CT teams tasked to fleets Marine Force Recon is a reconnaisance unit attached to Marine MEUs to spearhead an amphibious landing. Hope that clarifies the subject of MSOC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Stryker 0 Posted April 8, 2004 ok so make them srt marines with od, tan , and gray suits. I got all the green done if you want them, after that all you have to do is desturate them for the gray, and mess with the hue and lighness for the tan, easy as mash potatoes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThePara 0 Posted April 8, 2004 The reason I call them that is because my father (Former member of one of the FAST Companies) and later the First Force Reconnaissance company refers to them as such (In a joking manner, just like myself). I don't wan't to start any sort of flame war, but they don't do anything like SEALs whatsoever. They are simply infantry with a very specialized role of reinforcing US Embassies and their Marine guard detachments when there is a fear of possible terrorism. ANTI-Terrorism (measures taken to prevent a possible attack), they do not conduct counter-terrorism (actions taken after one has happened and requires DA to solve it ie a hostage rescue.) Hence the name Fleet ANTI-Terrorism Security Team. Also, there is no such thing as Marine Special Operations Command. Force Recon isn't always assigned to an MEU, they are relegated to the Fleet Marine Force, (why they're called FORCE Recon). A platoon from a Company is also attached to an MEU, along with a Maritime Special Purpose Force (they guys that do VBSS-Vessel Board Search Siezure and Gas Oil Platform takedowns.) They do a lot more then Recon, they call in airstrikes, conduct DA raids, take down vessels, can perform hostage rescue if need be. Their nature of Reconnaissance is deep into enemy territory to gather information crucial to Force commanders throughtout the whole war. Battalion Recon (A Battalion assigned to each Division as a I recall) have the single purpose of Recce in that divisions area to obtain intel important to ongoing operations. Back on topic-I think Capt. may be right about ditching the CQB suits that resemble Nomex flight suits, I haven't seen a single FR guy wearing one in Iraq. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Stryker 0 Posted April 8, 2004 ok i forgive you, sorry i was grumpy and a wee bit bipolar anyways, so how about naming them USMC SRT then? same concept. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThePara 0 Posted April 8, 2004 He could just ahead in time and call them SOCD-1 Marines. Special Operations Command Detachment-1 is the USMC's newest unit...I believe it just finished training its first batch of operators (they were training with SEAL Team One). They are the USMC's first unit to fall under SOCOM control and do just about everything that the SEALs do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSpencer 0 Posted April 8, 2004 Of course MSOC doesn't exist. It's all grouped in there under FCOM. FR isn't always attached to an MEU, but normally is, as the bulk of USMC combat forces that actually do combat ops are MEUs. The FAST team was the one that deployed from Georgia to Haiti. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rishon 0 Posted April 8, 2004 The only Special Forces the Marines have is Force Recon, all others are Special Operations Capable, there is no MSOC or ANY Marine Special Ops Command-type organization. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m16a2m203 0 Posted April 8, 2004 Detachment 1 http://www.badkompany.com/e107_images/Det1.jpeg Image size over 100kb. please read forum rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rishon 0 Posted April 8, 2004 That group is still in training and is being Evaluated by SOCOM. The Marines do not have SFQC and SFAS, thus lack a Special Forces Detachment or Group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThePara 0 Posted April 9, 2004 The first group of Det-1 operators have finished training. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
calm_terror 0 Posted April 9, 2004 the reason USMC do not have any SF command is because they are part of the NAVY so they would always fall under the US Navy SF command.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites