Joint operations: typhoon rising

[jakerod 254]

I actually liked Delta Force 2 for a while the first Delta Force I ever played. Im very glad I played it as long as I did (6 Months Longest ive ever played one game up to that point) because someone who I played with (Possibly Ize from OFP) showed me some screenshots of OFP then I got hooked. Now OFP is the longest game I have ever played (Got it the Christmas after it came out and played the SP Demo for 3 months before that)

But Black Hawk Down was a pretty crappy game. I had fun with it for a few months. Then I realized it was easier to kill a guy a mile away with 3 rounds from an MG than it is with 3 rounds from a sniper rifle. I think they shouldve stuck with the original graphics engine from DF1 and DF2 it looks a lot better in my opinion. JO looks terrible to me and has absolutely nothing on OFP (especially OFP:R).

EDIT: You also have the bunny hoping, men command issues also in BHD and most likely in JO too im not even going to bother with the demo. MP has always been the best in Novalogic games though.

[sanctuary 19]

Delta force 1 and 2 were very good games, unique for the battle scale and immersive factor for their time.

DF2 was really great for the grass and ghillie suits (the great new features of that opus in front of the 1).

The magic was completly lost with DF3 , where a black dot pointed your position at great distances , rendering any kind of cover useless.

An old saying true for DF3 was "Graphics are not what made games" 

Even the weapon seemed more arcad-ish than ever.

But fortunately, it was the time OFP was released and took the leading position for big scale battles games.... until OFP2

[Tex -USMC- 0]

An improvement over BHD, but definitely still the same old same old. I like the 100 man games though, very cool.

[jakerod 254]

Ya 100 man games were fun and I Agree with Sanctuary too after DF2, DF games completely lost everything they had on other games especially Land Warrior and now Joint Operations is probably going to take the cake for worst Delta Force game ever. Viva La OFP!!!

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

There are nice things about it. It's basically just a sequel to Novalogic's Delta Forec Blackhawk down.

You'll see pretty much the same graphics and movement in DFBHD. If you liked that, this will just introduce more props.

Cant describe it better. Running&Shooting&sounds&driving like Blackhawk down.

"something nice about it" Yeah you are a women that is trained in being positive and giving positive feedback first but the game realy sucks in my opinion!

If you want a nice game with a great awesome island and 100% great water effects then try Far Cry. And trust me the sounds drive you mad! And the AI is slick: teamwork, silent boots, retreat, squad organisation and ambush are some of the skills the AI is able to control. If you play online you wouldnt know when all players left and there is only AI left!

http://www.gengamers.com/assets/images/autogen/a_farcry-69.jpg

That is what I call VIETNAM VEGETATION

http://www.gengamers.com/assets/images/autogen/a_farcry-107.jpg

http://www.gengamers.com/html/far_cry-33.html

http://www.gengamers.com/html/farcry114.html

A sky addon we are still waiting for

http://www.gengamers.com/assets/images/autogen/a_farcry-54.jpg

Textures that challenge Doom3

http://www.gengamers.com/html/far_cry-22.html

THIS is real water

http://img.gamershell.com/imagefo....cib.jpg

http://www.gengamers.com/html/far_cry-9.html

http://www.gengamers.com/html/far_cry-17.html

Watch the sharks

http://img.gamershell.com/imagefo....shy.jpg

Watch your graphic card. i hope the cooler can do his job

http://img.gamershell.com/imagefolio/gallery/FPS/Far_Cry/meatshop3.jpg

Every game has its right of existance. BUT who is so dump to buy this game when a game like FAR CRY is near to be released and demos have been out for long. Nah, leave me alone with that recycled Blackhawk down remake!

Soldier modeling (looks a bit like plastic I agree)

http://www.gengamers.com/html/far_cry-18.html

[Nathanz 0]

And the sandbox editor is realtime and is very easy to use (atleast for me)

[DracoPaladore 0]

That meat freezer looks more like concept art.

How does the full version run? The demo ran good. Is it better or worse?

[Nathanz 0]

Well i got 15 or so fps in the demo and in the full on the same level with same settings i get 50fps  

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[Albert Schweitzer 10]

which game are you talking about. Are you seriously considering this game is worth...

okay I see

For me with a highend system it went ALWAYS smooth. The game this thread was initially about slowed down my computer when I looked at the island from a top of a hill! Far Cry uses a very unique engine that no other game has used before. And it proofs to be demanding but fair. Once you found an option that makes your performance smooth it will stay that way....wherevery you are from whichever point you are looking at the island!

[Nathanz 0]

well im talking about farcry !

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

I edited my post...dont you see    

Seriously dont buy this silly game. FARCRY is alread RELEASED and you have a real game that challenges your PC (but in fair way). It is an independant company who made it (just like OFP) and it is not copying any other game in any way. It is not like OFP and not like CS, and it has a singleplayer modus that realy challenges you. You dont actually need multiplayer to enjoy it. The physics engine is able to keep up with DOOM3 in any way. Light effects are shocking! Anyone who like computer games (and not just hardcore strategy like OFP) is well advised to buy FarCry. I am about to buy it once I returned from my short trip!

[Nathanz 0]

Me having a 1.4Ghz tbird, 9800pro, 768mb of pc2700ram and a 200Gb 7200rpm system runs farcry great but this demo (Joint-ops) ran bad ... around 10fps with all settings on lowest...

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

Like OFP it also takes the CPU into consideration. my system is a 3.0 HT with a 9800Pro and lots of RAM and I can play full settings with FPS beyond 38 all the time!. ( I think your RAM isnt sufficient)

[DracoPaladore 0]

I was talking about Far Cry, if that was confusing anyone.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

No it wasnt!!   But I dont waste time talking about garbage!

Very simple, use GOOGLE to search for articles about it (Far CRY:D) and try to find comments from famous game magazines. In germany it rocked the 90% score by most of the famous critics. Simple as hell, get the demo and judge yourself! The demo can be found easily!

[DracoPaladore 0]

I did get the demo and I liked it!

I don't know about buying it though. I'm very cautios about buying my games.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

I fully understand you! I hate being bombarded by the advertisement from the BIG-PLAYERS in the industry. CS-condition zero? Does that ring a bell? what a terrible failure!!! Doom 3? What do we know about this game? What do we know about how our PC is able to cope with it?

But Far Cry comes from a tiny company. They worked on this project longer than most other competitors. It took them years to develop a unique engine (that now every company wants to buy and they assume getting more profit out of selling the engine than selling the game). I believe in creativity and independant work. I was always proven right. I bought OFP, I bought MAFIA, I bought Sacred and they are definetly the best games I ever played. Wasting money on games is one of my obsessions and I have bought many that I havent even played to the end nor ever tried online. 10 hours gameplay and I take my decision. Many games like Neverwinter Nights, like Global Ops, like CS, like TacOPS, like MOHAA ended up in the garbage bin because I didnt like them in one sort of way. And surprisingly the most independant games attract the best online community. Did you ever notice how many of the members here are people that participated from shortly after the release. Mafia is another example of an independant company releasing a great game. Noone ever knew about mafia untill the sales-statistics rocked unexpectatly. Many magazines had to READJUST their scores. OFP by the way had the highest readjustment in score in the history of "gamestar" (the magazine I read). Trust your own judgment and not the publicity. FarCry came out months before DOOM3 is ever to be hitting the market. And the engine can provide 98% of what DOOM promises (except the broken balustrade). Now are you a follower or a trend.setter?

[ale2999 0]

I fully understand you! I hate being bombarded by the advertisement from the BIG-PLAYERS in the industry. CS-condition zero? Does that ring a bell? what a terrible failure!!! Doom 3? What do we know about this game? What do we know about how our PC is able to cope with it?

But Far Cry comes from a tiny company. They worked on this project longer than most other competitors. It took them years to develop a unique engine (that now every company wants to buy and they assume getting more profit out of selling the engine than selling the game). I believe in creativity and independant work. I was always proven right. I bought OFP, I bought MAFIA, I bought Sacred and they are definetly the best games I ever played. Wasting money on games is one of my obsessions and I have bought many that I havent even played to the end nor ever tried online. 10 hours gameplay and I take my decision. Many games like Neverwinter Nights, like Global Ops, like CS, like TacOPS, like MOHAA ended up in the garbage bin because I didnt like them in one sort of way. And surprisingly the most independant games attract the best online community. Did you ever notice how many of the members here are people that participated from shortly after the release. Mafia is another example of an independant company releasing a great game. Noone ever knew about mafia untill the sales-statistics rocked unexpectatly. Many magazines had to READJUST their scores. OFP by the way had the highest readjustment in score in the history of "gamestar" (the magazine I read). Trust your own judgment and not the publicity. FarCry came out months before DOOM3 is ever to be hitting the market. And the engine can provide 98% of what DOOM promises (except the broken balustrade). Now are you a follower or a trend.setter?

I am going to keep offtopic with the rest of you... eh

Far Cry engine is amazing, I swear that it runs really well and the indoors are as detailed and with physics that doom 3 wants to bring to us. The difference is that far cry can do great outdoors too. I bet that when John Carmack played Far Cry he must have got angry. Cant wait for Realistic warfare far cry mods to come out!!!

[jakerod 254]

*cough*On Topic *cough* JO seems like it is a terrible game im not even going to bother with the demo.

[HellToupee 0]

JO seems ok, it runs pretty bad tho, i have a mx440 but even far cry seemed to run with higher fps, joinging servers is not easy. But its great for larger player games, most people i find flying the helecopters spend their time ferrying people around they even go to each spawn to pick people up, its great landing on the enemy island and jumping out the helecopter, not just appearing outside of it.In ofp you really only got more than 2-3 humans in a helecopter that odd time. Its single player will be nothing speical but im hoping for online games it will be as much fun as df2.

[HellToupee 0]

I fully understand you! I hate being bombarded by the advertisement from the BIG-PLAYERS in the industry. CS-condition zero? Does that ring a bell? what a terrible failure!!! Doom 3? What do we know about this game? What do we know about how our PC is able to cope with it?

But Far Cry comes from a tiny company. They worked on this project longer than most other competitors. It took them years to develop a unique engine (that now every company wants to buy and they assume getting more profit out of selling the engine than selling the game). I believe in creativity and independant work. I was always proven right. I bought OFP, I bought MAFIA, I bought Sacred and they are definetly the best games I ever played. Wasting money on games is one of my obsessions and I have bought many that I havent even played to the end nor ever tried online. 10 hours gameplay and I take my decision. Many games like Neverwinter Nights, like Global Ops, like CS, like TacOPS, like MOHAA ended up in the garbage bin because I didnt like them in one sort of way. And surprisingly the most independant games attract the best online community. Did you ever notice how many of the members here are people that participated from shortly after the release. Mafia is another example of an independant company releasing a great game. Noone ever knew about mafia untill the sales-statistics rocked unexpectatly. Many magazines had to READJUST their scores. OFP by the way had the highest readjustment in score in the history of "gamestar" (the magazine I read). Trust your own judgment and not the publicity. FarCry came out months before DOOM3 is ever to be hitting the market. And the engine can provide 98% of what DOOM promises (except the broken balustrade). Now are you a follower or a trend.setter?

I am going to keep offtopic with the rest of you... eh

Far Cry engine is amazing, I swear that it runs really well and the indoors are as detailed and with physics that doom 3 wants to bring to us. The difference is that far cry can do great outdoors too. I bet that when John Carmack played Far Cry he must have got angry. Cant wait for Realistic warfare far cry mods to come out!!!

I really dont think farcry has much on the doom3 engine, its physics are more than just a few barrels moveing around you should be able to break something and then break the broken bits . Plus the biggest feature of doom3 is not in farcry, the lighting, frycry has some lighting effects but not the shadows.

[SpecOp9 0]

Well,

I just go through playing the demo for about 1 hour.  The reason for your lag is likely because your settings are too high.  I did get a slow framerate at first, but that's because I was on a server with 64+ players and all my graphics set to high. Big no no.  I lowerd the graphics a bit, and it worked smooth as a babies arse.

The game I wont hesitate to say is somewhat fun.  The ability to drive vehicles and boats onto the CHinook and do insertions like that is just plain fun...but the vehicles move around way too fast and robotic-like.  I often see Littlebirds just zipping around the map, as if it was on a rail, or roller coaster that has a sudden turn.  ZWIP!  

Anyway, it's pretty fun, the detail on the weapons is gorgeous, but they definately put a bit too much detail in the map, instead of the actual vehicle and player models.

The game needs some help, definately similar to Battlefield Vietnam...but BF Vietnam will probably always be better than Joint Ops.

But still, I found this demo to be pretty fun for the first few minutes.

[MLF 0]

FarCry came out months before DOOM3 is ever to be hitting the market. And the engine can provide 98% of what DOOM promises (except the broken balustrade). Now are you a follower or a trend.setter?

You really should read up on what the Doom 3 Engine does before making stupid statements like this.

[Blake 0]

Feels a bit better than BF 1942 at least but still very very arcadish. Kind of nice to spray gunfire from vehicles and numerous gun mounts for a while. Water looks good, terrain looks reasonable but too candy-like to me. Reminds me of 1988 3D Amiga game 'Virus' for some reason...Greatest feature is the supported amount of online players, lets hope OFP 2 will float around those numbers once it gets done. In the end I just couldn't evade the 'I'm too old for this shit' -feeling after a few minutes of playing. Such a shame that good netcode and nice features are wasted on such arcadish compromising rubbish...

With Söldner also seeming to take the arcadish path, it's looks quite certain that anything than OFP 2 will not beat OFP.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

FarCry came out months before DOOM3 is ever to be hitting the market. And the engine can provide 98% of what DOOM promises (except the broken balustrade). Now are you a follower or a trend.setter?

You really should read up on what the Doom 3 Engine does before making stupid statements like this.

I would prefer if you would proof me wrong and not just tell me that I am.

I can give you some points to consider:

A: Where are the great DOOM3 outdoor maps?

B: what is realy revolutionary about DOOM3? Ligthing effects, shadows, phsysics. Tell me what you consider so spectacular! And dont come along with deformable objects, or friction cause that isnt new.

And Doom is definetly not to be released before Mai 30th