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I like those Strike Eagle shots, Wilco.

For the record, Steve Davies has written three excellent books about the F-15E.

(We now return you to your regularly scheduled military photos thread)

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I've seen Wilco's pics a couple of times before...if you want more, go to Militaryphotos.net

This is a pretty typical thread like from that site, except flame wars about what special forces (and what country) are best don't erupt immediately. wink_o.gif

I'm kind of surprised to see the BIS camo used, I thought it was phased out in the early '80s? Well, I read it on the Internet. wink_o.gif

The BIS camo looks too bright compared to all the photos I've seen though, the real camo looks more vibrantly green and grass-colored IMO.

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Quote[/b] ]I would think that a Special Forces soldier that can "out think" me would be more impressive.Where is the display of intellect?

You want a picture of a strategy map? tounge_o.gif

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I didn't know how accurate that russian camo really was to the Ofp counterpart. Having said that. Their camo is really ugly.

Secondly. I'm wondering what practical military application throwing a hatchet while upside down in mid air has.

Now I sort of grasp the whole concept of demonstrating endurance by smashing concrete on someone's stomach, but flaming concrete? That hardly makes any sense unless a few little flaming bits happen to fall off and singe the guy's skin... ooh. Ouch. Kind of makes the whole spectacle look rather silly.

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Secondly. I'm wondering what practical military application throwing a hatchet while upside down in mid air has.

H4xx0r bunny hopping tounge_o.gif

Certain russian elite troops are taught a whole lot of useless techniques which could only be used in a bad action movie or to impress the masses and their foreign colleagues. The Russian close combat technique taught to Spetznaz and consorts is quite efficient but it has also a lot of "artistical performances":

Removing a gun from somebody's hands while upside down in mid-air or even shooting in the same position with the gun you tool or with your own gun for exemple.

There are a lot of pictures of that kind floating around.

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Wilco I've merged your new photo thread into the former sexy sniper thread because you'd already turned that thread into a misc military photo thread.

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Accck my pics turned to red X's what the heck happened? can anyone else see them or they just X's?

The host site is still displaying them, hmmm rock.gif

and i want everyone to see my pic from boot camp sad_o.gif

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Sorry for being picky - but Carabinieri is a paramilitary police force - not a military unit.

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According to this article on the Swedish FBU homepage, the Carabinieri and the Financial police are both military corps. I do find it a bit strange though since when I was in Italy I saw signs pointing to the Carabinieri very often.

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According to this article on the Swedish FBU homepage, the Carabinieri and the Financial police are both military corps. I do find it a bit strange though since when I was in Italy I saw signs pointing to the Carabinieri very often.

Well, in Italy they have several very specialised police forces. Carabinieri are known to be paramilitary police just like Spain has it's Guardia Civil. Every time I've been to Italy I've seen Carabinieri posted around in Rome and every know and then I've seen them patroling the town in their "operette-like uniforms" smile_o.gif

So, whatever govermental departement they belong too they are considered to be a kind of security force placed somewhere between the police and the military. In a war scenario you would not see Carabinieri fighting as an ordinary military unit.

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lol me and Winters had the same Drills in basic and AIT biggrin_o.gif

Small world...

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I'm assuming these guys are IDF troops and I noticed what looks to be a multitude of Skorpion machine pistols/smgs? on the floor? I had no idea they were so big.

@ran

I was quite impressed with the ability of those "burly" russian guys and their ability to kick. If I saw some 200+ pound crazy war-painted spetznas leaping over my head to disarm me I'd probably try to run in the direction he came from... as fast as I could.

Still. Yeah. I could just see a bunch of russian spetznas in a CQB situation trying to do their "throwing while upside down trick" in a low-ceilinged building. Ah, hilarity would ensue.

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According to this article on the Swedish FBU homepage, the Carabinieri and the Financial police are both military corps. I do find it a bit strange though since when I was in Italy I saw signs pointing to the Carabinieri very often.

Well, in Italy they have several very specialised police forces. Carabinieri are known to be paramilitary police just like Spain has it's Guardia Civil. Every time I've been to Italy I've seen Carabinieri posted around in Rome and every know and then I've seen them patroling the town in their "operette-like uniforms"  smile_o.gif

So, whatever govermental departement they belong too they are considered to be a kind of security force placed somewhere between the police and the military. In a war scenario you would not see Carabinieri fighting as an ordinary military unit.

he is right. Carabinieri are paramilitary. But they are kool!

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I was quite impressed with the ability of those "burly" russian guys and their ability to kick. If I saw some 200+ pound crazy war-painted spetznas leaping over my head to disarm me I'd probably try to run in the direction he came from... as fast as I could.

Still. Yeah. I could just see a bunch of russian spetznas in a CQB situation trying to do their "throwing while upside down trick" in a low-ceilinged building. Ah, hilarity would ensue.

these acrobatics are just apart of the PR stuff IMO ..... Spetsnaz are real mean killing machines who don't need to rely on fancy acrobatic and aerial martial arts/combat technics.

But large amplitude moves and acrobatic jumps are much more entertaining to the public than a really fast blow in the carotid, and the fancy bunny hops don't require you to change your partners as often tounge_o.gif

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According to this article on the Swedish FBU homepage, the Carabinieri and the Financial police are both military corps. I do find it a bit strange though since when I was in Italy I saw signs pointing to the Carabinieri very often.

Well, in Italy they have several very specialised police forces. Carabinieri are known to be paramilitary police just like Spain has it's Guardia Civil. Every time I've been to Italy I've seen Carabinieri posted around in Rome and every know and then I've seen them patroling the town in their "operette-like uniforms"  smile_o.gif

So, whatever govermental departement they belong too they are considered to be a kind of security force placed somewhere between the police and the military. In a war scenario you would not see Carabinieri fighting as an ordinary military unit.

he is right. Carabinieri are paramilitary. But they are kool!

Yes they are paramilitary as I said. However, that does not imply their tasks are "military" - but rather placed between military and police. They are a more specialized police force with heavier equipment and work more like a security force than ordinary police. As I've said, the only other paramilitary force that I know resembles Carabinieri is the spanish Guardia Civil.

However, I do believe France have something similar?

Ask Ran, he would know!

Edit: Of course, the french version is called "Gendarmerie" .

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Oh, and I was wrong about this:

Quote[/b] ]In a war scenario you would not see Carabinieri fighting as an ordinary military unit

http://home.mweb.co.za/re/redcap/carahist.htm

Another picture of Carabinieri. I once saw one wearing that kind of uniform in front of the Spanish Stairs. He was also wearing a cape. Looked rather impressive I have to say!

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Quote[/b] ]Accck my pics turned to red X's what the heck happened? can anyone else see them or they just X's?

Yep, I can see them. When your course photo was taken I was just two years old. wow_o.gif

I'm not trying to make you feel old at all... biggrin_o.gif

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My Regiment's museum page.

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Quote[/b] ]4 Oct 03

Kabul, Afghanistan

Soldiers from many nations taking part in the International Security Assistance Force, (ISAF) stand by and salute as the remains of two Canadian soldiers are transported onto a Luftwaffe C-160 Transall at Kabul international airport. A ceremony was held earlier in honour of the two soldiers (Sgt Robert Short, 3 RCR and Cpl Robbie Beerenfenger, 1 RCR), at Camp Julien. At the time of their death they were travelling in an Iltis vehicle on a regular patrol as part of Operation ATHENA.

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Quote[/b] ]29 January, 2004

Trenton, Ontario, Canada

A casket with the remains of Corporal Jamie Brendan Murphy, 26, a Canadian soldier killed during a suicide attack in Kabul, Afghanistan on January 27, 2004, is repatriated back to Canada by members of The Royal Canadian Regiment (RCR) during a ceremony at CFB Trenton.

Three other soldiers sustained non-life-threatening injuries in the attack, which occurred near two Iltis vehicles on patrol in Kabul. All the soldiers were serving with the 3rd Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment Battalion Group (3 RCR Bn Gp) as part of Operation ATHENA, Canada's contribution to the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Kabul.

Tyler

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Marinejegere/Navy Rangers leaving a sub through the torpedotube.

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Another one of a Navy Ranger

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.....this time climbing

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To Assault (CAN) :

Why post the last two pictures? It fails to make me sentimental. It's a war, they are soldiers and soldiers die. I've seen several pictures of soldiers coming home dead here in Norway from peacekeeping missions. I don't mean to be rude, but I think posting images like that are silly. It's their job to be soldiers including all the risks!

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Quote[/b] ]To Assault (CAN) :

Why post the last two pictures? It fails to make me sentimental. It's a war, they are soldiers and soldiers die. I've seen several pictures of soldiers coming home dead here in Norway from peacekeeping missions. I don't mean to be rude, but I think posting images like that are silly. It's their job to be soldiers including all the risks!

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Yes, death and serious bodily harm is part of the job, you don't need to tell me that. If we're here posting pictures of soldiers on the job we may as well post pictures of the results and costs of that job.

Freedom ain't free. wink_o.gif

Tyler

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Quote[/b] ]To Assault (CAN) :

Why post the last two pictures? It fails to make me sentimental. It's a war, they are soldiers and soldiers die. I've seen several pictures of soldiers coming home dead here in Norway from peacekeeping missions. I don't mean to be rude, but I think posting images like that are silly. It's their job to be soldiers including all the risks!

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Yes, death and serious bodily harm is part of the job, you don't need to tell me that. If we're here posting pictures of soldiers on the job we may as well post pictures of the results and costs of that job.

Freedom ain't free.  wink_o.gif

Tyler

Ok, I'll let my sour comment rest in peace  wink_o.gif

edit: removed pic

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Quote[/b] ]Freedom ain't free.

In that case it was the freedom of the Afghanis they died for. I also think that it's kind of unfair that it was their deaths that seemed to be the last straw regarding the whole Iltis issue. I read in the paper that they're getting these new Mercedes Benz armored Jeep type things now.

I'm just glad I'm not over there.

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http://www.army-technology.com/contractor_images/aimpoint/aimpoint5.jpg

What kind of rifle is that??

Looks like a M16A3 with retractable stock.

I think its(was) an experimental rifle the US was interested in having and rifle whit retracteble butt.

Its an A1(whit tele butt) lower reciver whit an A3 upper reciver on it, and a A2 barrel. biggrin_o.gif

STGN

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The Mercedes G wagon with armoured plates is used a really long time in the BW.

You may think of the Dingo which is flown to Afghanistan a lot now.

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Iltis is dead for more than 10 years now. There are some standing around at our camp along with an old Kubelwagen we use for recon training biggrin_o.gif But both have no role in abroad missions. They´re oldtimers.

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