toadlife 3 Posted October 18, 2003 I installed I-Tunes for Windows to check out what all these Apple freaks have been raving about for so long and boy was I in for a nasty surprise. Not only did the I-Tunes store not have a single song/album I searched for, when I decided to load up Americas Army for a bit of fragging, I was treated with a complete lag-fest every time I would fire my gun or someone else near me would fire theirs. With it's pansy graphics engine, AAO normally runs at 25-40FPS @ 1600x1200 on my system, but after installing I-Tunes for windows the game would run at 20 FPS at the most, 15FPS when looking at across any open space and about 5-10FPS when gunfire went off near me. I immediately suspected I-Tunes, so I checked out the services installed. I-Tunes had installed a couple of services (something to do with CD burning), and at least one driver on my system. I disabled the services but the problem continued, so I then completely un-installed I-Tunes and restarted. The problem still continued, even AFTER I-Tunes was un-installed. I went in and look at my sound blaster control panel (I have a SB Live), and I tunes had changed my Effect settings so that it was adding re-verb to my sounds!!! I disabled all of the effects, and launched AAO, expecting the problem to be gone - only it wasn't. Now I was really pissed. On a hunch I decided to un-install my SB live drivers, restart, and reinstall them. It worked. Americas Army now runs at it's normal 25-40 FPS now, and it's safe to say I will NEVER install another Apple program on my computer again. This may have affected Operation Flashpoint too, but I didn't bother to try and find out. All of those Playskool-computer loving Apple nuts can keep their crap software and your selection less Music service. I prefer enjoyable gaming to 99 cent songs, and 15 frames per second. FYI: my system.... Athlonxp 2800 Asus A7v333 (Via kt333) SB live value Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 18, 2003 Adam, having bit into the forbidden Apple, decided it was poisonous and never tried one again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted October 18, 2003 I'm with Leone. I've had Apples and iMacs before, and decided that though Windows is far from perfect, it's better than that fruity crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drill Sergeant 0 Posted October 18, 2003 Yep, I never could understand why people liked them. I hate Xp but I hate apples more. As for your problem thats to bad to hear about it, nothing as fun as fraggin, but when it locks up it's a pain. Also have you tried useing a system restore under the start menu to revert any regestry changes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSC 0 Posted October 18, 2003 My first computer was an Apple (G4), and I loved it. Now I have a PC because of my "addiction" to games. But I'm sure, if OFP 2 (and some other games) would run on an Apple I'd buy one again. If I'd have enough cash. In fact games and money (you can buy 2 good PC's for one Apple) are the reasons why I don't use a Mac anymore. But I wish Mac OS X would be available for PC. The operation system is just great. PSC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoonieRat 0 Posted October 18, 2003 Apple is the original sin!! ... Why anyone would want to use such an obscure 'Gamer unfriendly' rig I don't know! Games are what computers were invented for, are'nt they? are'nt they?!... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 18, 2003 They were very good for audio/video work for quite a while...especially when Amiga disappeared But PC's have well and truely overtaken them in those departments I think. Plus you can upgrade just sooooo much easier. Here is what Mac are now good for Lamerkatz guide to using a Mac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toadlife 3 Posted October 18, 2003 Also have you tried useing a system restore under the start menu to revert any regestry changes? No sys restore, I'm running win2k. With XP, I turn system restore off anyway. I'm gonna reinstall Itunes and see if I can figure out exactly what it does to my sound settings to cause the problems. It also caused the 'crackling' sound in AAO that the sound blaster live is famous for in Op Flash. I've never experienced any sound problems with AAO - EAX enabled and everything. There is probably some obscure setting that it changed that I couldn't find. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benu 1 Posted October 18, 2003 Did you try running adaware or spybot search&destroy to see if it installed additional crap? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted October 18, 2003 But I wish Mac OS X would be available for PC. The operation system is just great.PSC I had to use it for school. I have used unix with KDE every windows version from 3.1 onward. I have never used a more counter intuitive, illogical and slow to work with OS then MAC OS X. Want to eject you zipdrive? Well expect to mess about with it for a few hours till you discover you have to drag your zipdrive desktop icon in to the trash bin. It is VERY bad at networking (even windows sorted that out after a while), is no more bug free then windows XP and the software written for it isnt all that fantastic too. Even photoshop for Mac ..... the naming for the tools was done with the idea of marketing it to toddlers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eisa01 0 Posted October 18, 2003 Why all this hostility towards Macs/Apple? I love macs and find pcs ok. I have not yet seen any pc with decent design, but all the macs the last 5 years look terrific (please show me a pic of a pc with nice design if you know of one ) @supah: Mac OS X is not any harder to use than XP, but since most people are used to XP, it can be hard to use another system. @benu: Why would iTunes install something like that??? @Leone: Damn funny page Im currently using iTunes now, and I'm really satisfied. But of course not everyone will like it. To sum it up im really tired of people bashing Microsoft/Linux/Macs, it's things like this that cause war. Now go use whatever you like, but dont be an idiot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drewb99 0 Posted October 18, 2003 But seriously, there are a lot of well-designed PC cases. But in the end, most companies aren't too interested in spending lots of money on what ends up being the least important part of a PC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted October 18, 2003 Bloody Oath drewb that PC cover recently was published in PC Magazine Middle and Near east's latest issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted October 18, 2003 eww. http://us.st7.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/directron_1760_443395634 http://www.tacticalblunder.com/blackdog/pictures/HPIM0850.JPG <-- my case (before I cleaned it up) http://www.tacticalblunder.com/blackdog/pictures/Hpim0853.jpg <-- desktop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eisa01 0 Posted October 18, 2003 But seriously, there are a lot of well-designed PC cases. Â But in the end, most companies aren't too interested in spending lots of money on what ends up being the least important part of a PC. I care about design so i like macs better but I understand your point, the case got no functional value Anyway that pc case reminds me of this one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted October 18, 2003 Yes! A wonderful new sport: DodgeMac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted October 18, 2003 Quote[/b] ]@supah: Mac OS X is not any harder to use than XP, but since most people are used to XP, it can be hard to use another system Thats your opinion and one that isn't shared by many Apart from the OS woes there is the issue of non-user upgradability, files not always being interchangable and that lots of software just isnt made for mac's. The old excuse that their better at Graphics design or video editing is crap. My p4 is just as fast as the mac's we used (and which they still use) at school. Messing aboot in photoshop isnt really going to drain system resources so thats no issue. 3d performance also is rather dumb argument ive heard. Real 3d pro's dont use Mac's OR pc's. They have machines with up to 12 processors and crap. Citing exterior appearance as a pro i find just plain childish What do you have a computer for? A nice heavy paperweight ? I want it to work and work well and fast. Who gives a Fart what it looks like anyway? I wasnt going to put it on prominent display when the neighbours come over in the first place? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winters 1 Posted October 18, 2003 I find I-Macs to be quite useful. When i am in the office and i have the window open they make wonderful paperweights. But seriously, all you need to know about Macs can be found right here: So You Wanna Buy a Mac? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edc 0 Posted October 18, 2003 Personally, I'd don't see why anyone would want to use a Mac, if you don't want to use Windows, just use Linux, I mean MS-DOS is better than Mac OS's. Â Who was it that had the image in their sig that had a little Windows icon, and by it "This is your brain", and then a Mac icon, and by that "This is your brain on drugs"? Â Good sig, whoever had it. edit: roflmao(literally), god that video's hilarious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted October 18, 2003 So You Wanna Buy a Mac? My sentiments exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted October 18, 2003 But seriously, all you need to know about Macs can be found right here:So You Wanna Buy a Mac? ROFL! I bet he winds up being Bill Gates 1st cousin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winters 1 Posted October 18, 2003 The funniest thing about that vid is that he made it on a mac. @Hellfish Invader Zim Rox!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eisa01 0 Posted October 18, 2003 I give up... anyone else here tried iTunes? At least someone found Macs useful VirginiaTech Terascale Cluster Going in at the TOP 5 computers in the world for 5 million USD, They considered Dells but the Macs gave them more value for money BBC Article Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 1 Posted October 18, 2003 So You Wanna Buy a Mac? I would have to say EVERYTHING he said in that video has happened in my short and bitter relationship with macs. Not only do they cost about 150% more than a PC, they can't be upgraded or modified! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted October 18, 2003 The reason macs run so fast is because they have nothing to run ontem :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
