1985 equipment

[jakerod 254]

Just wondering what kind of things the Soviets and United States used in 1985.

Anti-Air:

MBT:

APC:

-BTR:

-BMP:

Shoulder Fired AA

Assault Rifle

Pistol

Sniper Rifle

Machine Gun

Shoulder Fired AT

Close Air Support:

-Plane:

-Attack Chopper

Transport Chopper:

AA:

Ill probably have more later

EDIT:I know the Soviets are kind of famous for using about 500 different things at the same time especially for MBTs so just let me know the main ones.

[SKULLS_Viper 0]

Just wondering what kind of things the Soviets and United States used in 1985.

Anti-Air:

MBT:

APC:

-BTR:

-BMP:

Shoulder Fired AA

Assault Rifle

Pistol

Sniper Rifle

Machine Gun

Shoulder Fired AT

Ill probably have more later

EDIT:I know the Soviets are kind of famous for using about 500 different things at the same time especially for MBTs so just let me know the main ones.

USA MBT:M1 abrams

USSR MBT:T72

USA Assault rifle:M16A1 and A2

USSR Assault rifle:Ak74(or is it 47?)

USA APC:M113 & M2A2(?)

USSR APC: BMP

USA shoulder fired AA:Stinger

USA machine gun:M60 and SAW(?)

Thats really all that I know.And some may be alittle inaccurate.

[The Frenchman 0]

Wouldn't the T80 be the MBT?

[SKULLS_Viper 0]

Wouldn't the T80 be the MBT?  

I don't think during the cold war.All I know is that from watching a show on the M1 Abrams, they said the USA created the M1 to combat against USSR best tank, the T-72.

[drewb99 0]

the US MBT would either be the M60A3 Patton or the M1 Abrams. The Russian MBT would either be the T80BV or a few T64A or B's.

The US APC was either the M113 or the M2A2 Bradley, and the Russian APC was either the BTR-80, BMP1, or BMP2.

The AA rockets were either the Stinger or the 9K32 Strela.

The US main rifle was the M16A1 with a few M16A2s entering service, and the Russian rifle was the AK74.

The US pistol at the time was the M9 Beretta and the Russian pistol was the TT33.

There were a bundle of sniper rifles, but the US mainly used the M40A1 and the M21, while the Russians had the SVD Dragunov.

The squad-level MG for the US was the M60E1, and the Russian one was either the PKM or the RPK-74.

American AT weapons were the M47 Dragon and the LAW, and Russian AT weapon was the RPG-7V.

[USMC Sniper 0]

The US pistol at the time was the M9 Beretta and the Russian pistol was the TT33.

Beretta and TT33 OFP isn't 100% correct you know, the Beretta entered service in 1990 I think, and in 1985 they would have been using the Colt M1911A1. The Russians would be using either the Makarov PM or PMM.

[jakerod 254]

What about:

Close Air Support:

-Plane:

-Attack Chopper

Transport Chopper:

AA:

and what kind of BTR and BMP?

[SKULLS_Viper 0]

What about:

Close Air Support:

-Plane:

-Attack Chopper

Transport Chopper:

AA:

and what kind of BTR and BMP?

A-10

AH-64

UH-60 Blackhawk & Chinook

[jakerod 254]

Are you sure it wasnt the cobra? I didnt think the apache was around until a little later.

[drewb99 0]

Beretta and TT33 OFP isn't 100% correct you know, the Beretta entered service in 1990 I think, and in 1985 they would have been using the Colt M1911A1. The Russians would be using either the Makarov PM or PMM.

Those too

[SKULLS_Viper 0]

Are you sure it wasnt the cobra? I didnt think the apache was around until a little later.

Quote[/b] ]AH-64A model full-scale production began in 1983

That plus the AH-1

[Heatseeker 0]

Er... this thread is a joke right, or is someone testing the educational side of OPF .

[The Frenchman 0]

Close air support:

A10 andF4, F111 etc

[SKULLS_Viper 0]

I get all this info from watching a lot of shows on the History channel, plus reading books, and fas.org

[The Frenchman 0]

Read Red Storm Rising. It is basicly OFP in book form and on a global scale. And talks about the weaponry of the time

[jakerod 254]

I have a good reason for asking this...

[Kuja- 0]

Read Red Storm Rising. It is basicly OFP in book form and on a global scale. And talks about the weaponry of the time  

It was also written by Tom Clancy

[hellfish6 7]

Helicopters would be the AH-1S and UH-1H for the US, even though there were some UH-60s and AH-64s around. Some active duty units didn't retire their AH-1's until just a few years ago. The 10th Mountain Division, for example, brought AH-1s with them to Somalia in 1993.

[ozanzac 0]

Quote[/b] ]The US APC was either the M113 or the M2A2 Bradley

Hmmm, M2A2, don't think so. Heck, I don't think even the M2A1 was widely in service in 1985, The M2A0 first entered service in 1983, and I severely doubt that the Army had a susbstantial amount of them in 1985.

Argh, here it is. A diagram of what I'd been looking for.

The M2 was in the invientory, but it was still a crude machine in 1985, and was only in servive as the M2A0. And all surviving M2A1's (Built between 1986-1988) were upgraded to M2A2 standard.

[Bobby - CSLA team 0]

In case of MBTs it would be M60A3 and M1 Abrams (with 105mm gun and substantially thinner armor than M1A1). First pieces M1A1 wirh M256 120mm gun entered service late 1985/spring 1986. In case of russians it would be T80 and T64, both with reactive armor, for shock armies and first echelon troops (spearhead of attack), T72 for second echelon troops. USSR satelites used mix of T72s and upgraded T55. So, best tank of that year would be T80.

[EiZei 0]

T72 was more of an cheap export sold to allies and so forth. T64 and T80 were the real MBT of soviet forces.

And didnt the US have lot of upgraded M60s back then?

[jakerod 254]

Okay thanks guys. What about AA guns?

And what kind of stuff do you think the boys on everon would have?

[Commander-598 0]

Wouldn't the T80 be the MBT?  

I don't think during the cold war.All I know is that from watching a show on the M1 Abrams, they said the USA created the M1 to combat against USSR best tank, the T-72.

Y'know, on most of the shows i've seen about the Abrams, they always make the T72 out to be an actual challenge. We know how well they did in Desert Storm.

[SKULLS_Viper 0]

M1 Abrams vs. T72 maybe a diffrent story.The ones in the gulf are M1A1's.Better armor, and better gun.

For AA guns, I think Russians is the Shilka, and the US would be the vulcan. (?)

Jakerod, I'd recommend you got to http://www.fas.org

and select "Conventional Weapons".It has a lot of info on weapons for each country.

[jakerod 254]

Ive been to FAS many times. I have it bookmarked actually. Its just for most equipment I haven't seen dates of when they are used. Some of them do but most of them don't.