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Well guess you're just too cool for us,

I give up, let's try something completely new.........

I got it, how's about we just don't DO mods, since they obviously won't meet with the approval of a self-appointed minority.

I quit, make your own damn toys.

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Quote[/b] ]I got it, how's about we just don't DO mods, since they obviously won't meet with the approval of a self-appointed minority.

Don't get your panties in a wad. While I can understand making completely new M4s to fit a new terrain/combat type, there's no point in cranking out yet another generic black M4 pack (Unless you're a mod and you don't mind adding some more size to the download, or you want weapons with new sounds/textures). Period, end of statement, now please stop whining.

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Well guess you're just too cool for us,

I give up, let's try something completely new.........

I got it, how's about we just don't DO mods, since they obviously won't meet with the approval of a self-appointed minority.

I quit, make your own damn toys.

Its not about meeting our expectations , its about exceeding them tounge_o.gif , get it ?

And i have already too many toys too play with , yes we are all a rotten bunch who have too many addons and no where to play them with , andstill people keep on whining for more.

And listen to what m21 man said , hes right about making new M-4s if THEY are needed to compliment a addons/era and specific nature like Sucheys Marines and such and BAS rangers updated to use the latest stuff. But we dont need genric M-4s again and again which are loking now too much SAME crazy_o.gif

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Yah, i think its a good idea if Nightstalker Mod M4's and 16's are in jungle camo...which is what i been planning on, ever since everyone started to exclaim "not MORE M4's", and micke showed me a pic of some ones painted for the jungle....so to quiet those moaning b'atches who have been complaining about duplication, NO THEY ARE DIFFERENT!!!! They are a different colour smile_o.gif

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Exactly. Nice mud-splattered M4s with foregrips in jungle camo (And maybe some leaves attached to the barrel biggrin_o.gif ).

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Well, as a small example of a great, simple, innovative addon, look at the backpack addon.

Extremely useful and a fresh idea.

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I think that fliper's were the best m4s. In my personal opinion. Addons that are ridiculously huge in size are being done to fucking death in my opinion. A g36 addon that's 5+ megabytes zipped? Give me a goddamned break. I happen to want to be able to use an addon and be able to run the game the same as I would without them in other words. Not have one addon siphon away memory and processing power.

I don't think there's anything more ridiculous than those ultra high-def planes. A supersonic fighter that you might see in fleeting glimpses on the field and it's 15 megabytes. I don't know what's worse. The wasted work or the wasted money of these addonmakers who've obviously resorted to turning their new computers into digital showcases for impratically designed addons.

I plan on getting a new pc pretty soon and I sure as fuck won't install any of these ridiculously huge addons on it when re-install ofp. I'll be enjoying further draw distances and twice to three times the amount of animated soldiers and vehicles on the landscape. Not five or six "pretty" objects.

On a side note. I think the whole "Mod" idea is a bit silly. The best thing about ofp originally is that the community was just like one big supermarket of enhancements. You could pick and choose what you want and what you didn't. I've seen a lot of addons that are going to be exclusively in this mod or that... I don't really give a shit. I think those sorts are missing the point of what made ofp so different.

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C'mon people, play nice. I'd hate to have to close this thread due to flaming.  sad_o.gif

I'd say so. I'm shocked at some things that have been said. mad_o.gif  IF YOU DON"T LIKE AN ADDON DON"T DOWNLOAD IT. PLEASE DON"T COME HERE AND B*** ABOUT IT. crazy_o.gif Say what you will but don't put down works of art like those beatiful planes. Why do we make addons if we arn't trying to enhace game play? rock.gif Whats the point an building anything if it's not better than the last. rock.gif

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Yes, this thread is NOT for criticising specific people's addons in such an unproductive way.

If people are going to insult and be direspectful to each other here this thread will be shut down and offenders will suffer hefty penalties.

LAST WARNING

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Hey people cool it .. abit now ok .. and Baphomet dude dont you find those new plans nice? I do even if they are 12 MB or not atleast they add a whole new dimension in OFP gameplay.

And are not duplicates as well , most of the time.

Lets just calm down folks and play with those extra M-4's we got hehe tounge_o.gif

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Quick reverse of topic...

Addons not done enough = Euro Hi-Tech ie: Trigat ATGM, Gripen, Merlin, NH-90 etc etc

He he

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Hehe thats not all there are many things that are still needed.

A super Cobra , A CH-53 nice enough to work properly , some nice LandRovers , some Hummers with working MG's and TOW's in desert camo.

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A CH-53 nice enough to work properly

Hey, the updated version works fine, it´s the first version that was buggy. smile_o.gif

An NH90 would be nice...and a Kasatka! smile_o.gif

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I didn't mean to insult any particular addons. More a critique on where ofp addonmaking has gone in the last few months and how I'm sick of it.

Yes. High-def planes and guns look brilliant. They're pretty to look at. However how often in combat do you actually get to inspect the decals, rivets or what have you on the fusilage or tail fins to any particular degee? It's a waste of resources to go that high poly, next thing you'll know people will be modeling trigger group switches and the hatched pattern on a pistol grip for god sakes. If I was looking at a digital art rendering I'd say that's some quality work.

Quality 3d artwork (Quality. Yes. Still, I'd call Walker batshit insane if he attempted to put something that high-detail in ofp. That thing looks like it has more polys than anything in ofp anyhow.)

Does it add a new dimension to the game? No. It doesn't. Scripts and eventhandlers do that. All I can see from a gameplay point of view is that all these planes with nice scripts, polycounts and textures that go into the realm of excess will keep me doing what I normally do with ofp to an acceptable degree. Which is put as many entities into the field of battle as possible without severe performance degradation.

Walker's L85a1 (This is a nicely detailed addon. I really don't see why anything better than this is necessary really. It weighs in at about 720kb zipped versus these other multi megabyte addons. Even that seems a bit large for a gun.)

Stock ofp addons set the standard. These high-def addons restrict this... and while if I had a "sensibly" detailed alternative I would take it, however I don't want to miss out on scripting innovations because some guy decided to push the limits of his 3ghz machine. No offence to any particular addon makers. Why someone would care about detail that fine while playing actually playing the game just bewilders me.

The question was asked what I think has been done to death? There's my answer

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@Baphomet

I know what you mean, since I have a low end PC and all those high def. addons hit my PC twice.

But the problem are not the high polys and the big sized textures; the problem is, that most addon makers think that it is enough to make one good looking LOD, than perhaps if they want, they make a second, sometimes untextured, LOD.

Then there are some addon makers who reuse their textures but think that they must put the texture again in another PBO, thus duplicating it. Vit's planes are a bad example, because if you have his F-16, MiG-29 and F-15 you have the same 512x512 textures triple times!

If any addon maker made proper LODs (that are still good looking and textured), reused textures in a wise manner, there would be less problems for low-end PC users, and probably for high-end users, too.

You perhaps saw my F-117A and the ACES-aircraft-weapons-project. They won't have only one textured LOD that is high poly, but also some lowered LODs.

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Heh,just realised something. Comlaining about replicating addons, well if it inst a weapon you wont maon about it.

EG: DKM released an RAH66. Bresseb and his team is making an RAH66. Where is your comlaints? None.  (I'm all for Bressebs prject and wish him the best of luck to achieve the fantastic goals with features he set himself smile_o.gif )

So it's just M4s and M16s you bitch about (not the BMPs by FDF, Casucaus crisis, etc).

You know why these are good addons to start with? Lots of info. Everyone knows about the M4 and M16.

If you made threads purely of research about many other vehicles and weapons, lots of pics, specs, everything addon makers need, then you'd have put in enough effort to get them made. And they would be made. How about instead of creating threads moaning and comlaining about having too much time and effort spent on you, you do something to rectify the problem?

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Quote[/b] ]LandRovers
at least 3 mods doing these, including DKM

I work for LR too..

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Quote[/b] ](not the BMPs by FDF, Casucaus crisis, etc).

Rushing to defend my two favorite mods (Well, next to UKF, once they give us some high-quality shit that's on the way! Woot!)

FDF just resized the BMP's so that they were the proper size. Also, FDF didn't pretend to do anything extensive to any BMP but their "own" finnish one. The Caucasus Crisis / Kavkaz Crisees is the best I can do in Latin Alphabet, they're BMP's are prettymuch two completley differnt things. Now, I recognize that I've gone off on a tangent, but a few nuggets of wisdom have appeared here, and I'm gonna agree with Baphomet here and quickly leave before a forum admin chases me down and kills me. *High tails it for the highlands*

AK

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Quote[/b] ](not the BMPs by FDF, Casucaus crisis, etc).

Rushing to defend my two favorite mods (Well, next to UKF, once they give us some high-quality shit that's on the way! Woot!)

FDF just resized the BMP's so that they were the proper size. Also, FDF didn't pretend to do anything extensive to any BMP but their "own" finnish one. The Caucasus Crisis / Kavkaz Crisees is the best I can do in Latin Alphabet, they're BMP's are prettymuch two completley differnt things. Now, I recognize that I've gone off on a tangent, but a few nuggets of wisdom have appeared here, and I'm gonna agree with Baphomet here and quickly leave before a forum admin chases me down and kills me. *High tails it for the highlands*

AK

Hey, I wasn't having a go at them, just showing the double standards people display.

BTW: V22 osprey is in the works. If you dont want to wait, make your own. biggrin_o.gif

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What double standards .... dude 2 -3 addons replicated are digestable i think because no one knows what the other is making .... why are you trying to compare it with the M-4's and M-16s are there only 3 M-4s amde so far NO. There are probably 40 -50 of them... crazy_o.gif

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What double standards .... dude 2 -3 addons replicated are digestable i think because no one knows what the other is making .... why are you trying to compare it with the M-4's and M-16s are there only 3 M-4s amde so far NO. There are probably 40 -50 of them... crazy_o.gif

do you mean Packs or guns? cause I think there are more than 50 diffrent guns.

But Acecombat other than there are meany of them what do you have against them(M4/M16's)

STGN

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I don't think any particular addon has been done-to-death yet.Maybe there is alot of same type of rifles but that gives a good selection on which you prefer to use.

Just download and use which one you want,if your modemer and don't want to dl all,maybe ask or check the best addons lists first...research

Addon makers make what they want , I can't say much as my addons are less desirable for the most part

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