Payware addons- new trend?

[Bluesman 0]

Just noticed that the Caucaus Crisis mod is going payware. I'm surprised it took this long before anyone started doing payware addons(ie not campaigns) but I'm sceptical whether doing it this late in the OFP product cycle is really advisable.

Will this be a new trend for the OFP community?

BM

[lukemax 0]

Soory for being dum whats Paywhere is it where you buy addons? i would never buy addons

[Dauragon 0]

hmm this is bad, maybe some mods will think, thats a good idea of making it payware and will do the same as them and we will end up to have to buy every addons

[Shadow NX 1]

Ok i also read that statement on Ofp.cz so the many rumors going around in the modcommunity were right...

Its intresting that it seems BIS gave there OK to it, wonder how much license they have to pay and gow they do that, i guess pay after a amount of time so they want to pay the fee after earning money by selling the mod.

Whatever, for me what they do is surely not worth my money, and i also hope they change the Ghost Recon textures on some of their soldiers or they have another license problem.

I would pay for quality work but besides the BMPs i didnt seen much quality lately, ok the weapon textures were goo but not the weapon models.

Well when we release the T55s we will release a big bunch of screes showing what quality means and you will get all that for FREE cause after all its a hobby not a company.

You folks will be amazed what stuff we have that was never shown...enough for a "Caucasus Campaign"

If someone think i have a problem with this Mod...yes indeed cause there were things happend in the past that formed a not very positiv view.

Hope this is not a treand and every lil modteam thinks they can make money with their stuff...

[ruff 102]

Ok i also read that statement on Ofp.cz so the many rumors going around in the modcommunity were right...

Its intresting that it seems BIS gave there OK to it, wonder how much license they have to pay and gow they do that, i guess pay after a amount of time so they want to pay the fee after earning money by selling the mod.

Whatever, for me what they do is surely not worth my money, and i also hope they change the Ghost Recon textures on some of their soldiers or they have another license problem.

I would pay for quality work but besides the BMPs i didnt seen much quality lately, ok the weapon textures were goo but not the weapon models.

Well when we release the T55s we will release a big bunch of screes showing what quality means and you will get all that for FREE cause after all its a hobby not a company.

You folks will be amazed what stuff we have that was never shown...enough for a "Caucasus Campaign"

If someone think i have a problem with this Mod...yes indeed cause there were things happend in the past that formed a not very positiv view.

Hope this is not a treand and every lil modteam thinks they can make money with their stuff...

same

i reckon nobodys buyin that

too much hassle and come on we can just wait for rhs to come out then hu cares about caucus crisis

i reckon the community will not appreciate wat the caucas mod has done

[Migebuff 0]

Payware mods? Im not going to buy it, no matter how good it is. They released screenshots of their work, everyone was looking forward to download the mod, and now they want money for it? I will never buy an unofficial addon or mod. They didnt make the addon for the community, they made it to get rich. Im not supporting that, and i hope noone will buy this mod. Take your payware and go away, mr caucasus

[Shadow NX 1]

Also i got a problem with a team who are just russians in about Chechen war...

Hope this gets no "we were soldiers" thingy about glorious rusisans fight the evil rebels

[DaSquade 0]

I hope you guys and specially those Caucasus Crisis had a look at this recent topic:

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....t=33707

(topic subject: would you pay for a addon)

Hope this explains a lot what the community thinks about "that"!!!

PS: "Good" luck  Caucasus Crisis. Hope you guys learn something out it.

[Hudson 0]

I see nothing in their mod worth money, they are funny if they really plan on selling that crap. If they do decide to sell it whats stopping me from burning it to CD and heading to the nearest kinkos copy store to upload the MOD to alt.games.operation-flashpoint newsgroup? Nothing, didnt think so...

[EiZei 0]

Ironically enough, they probably couldn't make those addons without _FREE_ community support. (ie. tutorials/instructions/help)

[CanadianTerror 0]

I used to do mods for an rts style game where I recall 1 mod group tried to charge for their mod based on a 3 year old game engine.

It wont work. You might sell 15-20 copies and that's it.

Everyone will have their view on this but charging for your hobby isn't correct IMO.

[Sxep 0]

...poor russians don´t have money ay?

Really that is the badest idea i have ever read is this forum.

I hope they will ruin their selfs with that.

Ooohh baby i woulnd´t even pay for BAS stuff !!

And i also reckon that no one will support that mod....

[bn880 5]

Hey, I probably won't buy an addon as I have no financial income from them, but heck, if this is their choice and OK'd by BIS then it's their business. Good luck to them, maybe in the end it will mean some skilled ppl will make an extra dollar or two and have more free time to create better quality work.

I'm not buying but I'm not against people charging money for their time.

[waffendennis 0]

Damn them i dont give an wooden nickel to them...( no ofence to them ) but: What crazy person did came up with this idea? Man i dont give my money to that i need my money in real life so i dont need them i will just wait on RHS because: They have better soldier and vehicles and you dont need to pay for them so I already made my choise.

But if OFP starts to turn in a Payware game well....I think i quit with OFP then and Boycot it because: OFP it's just an game for fun and not an game to make money with ( except BIS )

Did I made my self clear or need more?

[Sxep 0]

I see nothing in their mod worth money, they are funny if they really plan on selling that crap. If they do decide to sell it whats stopping me from burning it to CD and heading to the nearest kinkos copy store to upload the MOD to alt.games.operation-flashpoint newsgroup? Nothing, didnt think so...

True ...so true

[bn880 5]

Damn them i dont give an wooden nickel to them...( no ofence to them ) but: What crazy person did came up with this idea? Man i dont give my money to that i need my money in real life so i dont need them i will just wait on RHS because: They have better soldier and vehicles and you dont need to pay for them so I already made my choise.

But if OFP starts to turn in a Payware game well....I think i quit with OFP then and Boycot it because: OFP it's just an game for fun and not an game to make money with ( except BIS )

Did I made my self clear or need more?

Yeha so it's OK, htey might simply not get any business, but that shouldn't make everyone angry.

And no it wasn't my idea. My idea would be going to work for someone like VBS custormers or BIS etc. and make money this way.

[Guest]

I dont mind them giving BIS $10,000 hehehe

[waffendennis 0]

I dont mind them giving BIS $10,000   hehehe

Maybe you dont mind that but we are talking about Payware addons and not that you mind giving BIS 10 bucks

[hellfish6 7]

Does anyone have any proof that the Caucasus Crisis mod is going to charge money? The only evidence I've seen is a comment posted at OFP.cz - and that's just rumor mongering at best.

Does anyone have any definite proof that they're going to charge money? If so, PM me and I'll reopen this topic. Otherwise, this will only spread rumours and, potentially, underserved ill-will towards that mod team.

[hellfish6 7]

OK - proof furnished. Carry on.

[GoOB 0]

I was looking forward to the Caucaus Crisis mod. And I thought that most of their stuff looked really sweet. But I will not pay for it if I can get the same units by another author for free.

[Guest]

I dont mind them giving BIS $10,000   hehehe

Maybe you dont mind that but we are talking about Payware addons and not that you mind giving BIS 10 bucks

CC is 1.91 only (according to their website)...which means Resistance. Now afaik they sold about 300,000 copies of Res, + another 100,000 GOTY.....400,000 CDs.

If it is correct that they paid BIS $10,000 (for arguements sake, lets just assume this), each cd costs $5 to make and ship and that you are going to charge $20 bucks (can't see it being more than this), then you need around 670 sales before you even can think of turning a profit.

So out of the 400,000 or so that in theory can use this mod, they need around 670 to buy it. Possible?

[Eviscerator 0]

So out of the 400,000 or so that in theory can use this mod, they need around 670 to buy it. Possible?

Absolutely, think of how many parents with no idea about games will be shopping for christmas, birthdays etc, having no idea about the game, there are enough gullible people to buy expansions.

[Hudson 0]

OK - proof furnished. Carry on.

When you locked the thread I decided I would actually go to their site and look for such proof, I agree the OFP community can be worse than 6 women sitting around cross-stitching when it comes to rumors. I cant read russian so i had to use my handy online translator    but this is what i read on one of their pages...

Quote[/b] ]Our modification for the game "operation Flashpoint" is dedicated to events in the Caucasus and it will affect events from 1994 to the present and near future. The command of our mode, including both the veterans of kartostroyeniya and simulation, and young,no of the talented authors will try to produce high-quality addony the corresponding to armament both Russian armies and fighters, and so Georgian army. Technology will with the greatest accuracy correspond to real models. We so will most in detail reproduce the places of the war shooting of those years. In our campaigns we will show the real events, such as the introduction of the federal forces into Chechnya on 10 December, 1994, seizure of hostages by fighter Sh. Basayevym on 14 June 1995, the raid Of raduyeva in g. Kizlyar during January 1996 the assault of terrible during August, and also the events, about which we learned from the words of eyewitnesses. However, we do not intend to be limited only to the fight of federal forces with the fighters in the territory of Chechnya. Our of modes will so make campaign and mission connected with other conflicts in the territory of the Caucasus, and reproduce the armament of participants in those conflicts.

Major portion our addonakh needs version 1.91 fleshpointa. All addony are noncommercial and are extended free of charge. Of right intellectual property it remains after the authors Addonov.

The very last thing they say is they will provide free addons. When did they decide to start selling them? Where did they say they would actually sell them? Im sure one of you found something in their forums, maybe you can post it here.

[waffendennis 0]

OK - proof furnished. Carry on.

When you locked the thread I decided I would actually go to their site and look for such proof, I agree the OFP community can be worse than 6 women sitting around cross-stitching when it comes to rumors. I cant read russian so i had to use my handy online translator    but this is what i read on one of their pages...

Quote[/b] ]Our modification for the game "operation Flashpoint" is dedicated to events in the Caucasus and it will affect events from 1994 to the present and near future. The command of our mode, including both the veterans of kartostroyeniya and simulation, and young,no of the talented authors will try to produce high-quality addony the corresponding to armament both Russian armies and fighters, and so Georgian army. Technology will with the greatest accuracy correspond to real models. We so will most in detail reproduce the places of the war shooting of those years. In our campaigns we will show the real events, such as the introduction of the federal forces into Chechnya on 10 December, 1994, seizure of hostages by fighter Sh. Basayevym on 14 June 1995, the raid Of raduyeva in g. Kizlyar during January 1996 the assault of terrible during August, and also the events, about which we learned from the words of eyewitnesses. However, we do not intend to be limited only to the fight of federal forces with the fighters in the territory of Chechnya. Our of modes will so make campaign and mission connected with other conflicts in the territory of the Caucasus, and reproduce the armament of participants in those conflicts.

Major portion our addonakh needs version 1.91 fleshpointa. All addony are noncommercial and are extended free of charge. Of right intellectual property it remains after the authors Addonov.

The very last thing they say is they will provide free addons. When did they decide to start selling them? Where did they say they would actually sell them? Im sure one of you found something in their forums, maybe you can post it here.

Maybe i am wrong but: If some thing is noncomercial you need to Pay for it to get it and if its extended from free well in my eye's you need to pay so come with fact's when you say that ( hey i know I am wrong but i love to argue )