Junker 0 Posted June 27, 2003 i was thinking is VBS compatable with our OFP..? If so y dont the army challange the public to a battle match..? Lets see who is better them or the Joe Public ;) What do you think..? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John C Flett 0 Posted June 27, 2003 I think its a nice idea but, given that even different versions of OFP won't work together, its rather unlikely. Of course that wouldn't stop a bunch of OFP players who are also in the forces putting a squad together for a similar match on our more humble version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted June 28, 2003 VBS1 is simulation, not just a game, it must be used in a more realistic way, no reloadable rpg+sniper rifle/G36+hind gunship/abrams tank, i dont think soldiers who use VBS1 run around the maps on their own after a helicopter so they can shoot it down with a law , they problably use much more realistic situations and tactics or would you believe they play capture the island with respawnable vehicals , i dont do MP in OPF but i would kill to play coop on VBS1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harnu 0 Posted June 28, 2003 Quote[/b] ]...abrams tank Why wouldn't there be an abrams? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Junker 0 Posted June 28, 2003 What im trying to say is the VBS1 system only trains soldiers in the army, This means Trained men play against Trained men or AI. if they get untrained Men on the other side the situation changes alot, The army will stick in groups and follow orders, Joe Public will run around like headless chickens confusing the hell out of the Trained peeps :P And thats i think would be good training for the army ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZIKAN 0 Posted June 28, 2003 What im trying to say is the VBS1 system only trains soldiers in the army, This means Trained men play against Trained men or AI.if they get untrained Men on the other side the situation changes alot, The army will stick in groups and follow orders, Joe Public will run around like headless chickens confusing the hell out of the Trained peeps  :P  And thats i think would be good training for the army  ;) Nice idea I think. It would be interesting to see the outcome of such a game and match. Remember though that the military guys are of the same 'computer game' generation as many of the people who play OFP anyway. So while it might be a novel way for them to train and promote tatics on the battlefield using VBS1, its not unsual for them to be familiar with a PC etc. The outcome I feel would be favourable to the military, purely on the basis that they would play better as a team. The OFP community on the other hand would probably be more in tune with the OFP/VBS1 interface after many hours of game play, and perhaps a little bit quicker in using it. Having played a great deal online, I know that there are teams/clans out there, who are so slick and well drilled, they would certainly give the military a good beating! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted June 28, 2003 I think it would be a fair game if there was a bunch of soldiers who use VBS1 against one opf veteran, the soldiers would stick together and use all that military tactics and cover eachother while the opf player would kill them all at the same time with a law rocket . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drewb99 0 Posted June 28, 2003 What im trying to say is the VBS1 system only trains soldiers in the army You mean Marines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vitoal125 0 Posted June 29, 2003 I've been to the ismut recently in k-bay and I saw that it had vbs1 on the system, but I haven't been able to try it out.  But, in concern to this thread, I'm military and I play ofp, both before and after enlisting.  I think if I could pick my teammates, we would do well against any civilian force because we're used to working together, communicating, have set Standard Operating Procedures and also we'd be in the same room probably and I would pick other people who at least play FPS.  With their skills from SOF2 and other games and our 'real life knowledge' I think we could fight the good fight whether against organized resistance or chickens with their heads cut off.  just remember  (we must hang together or we will surely hang apart) edit- a squad with proper dispersion should'nt have to worry about a law rocket taking out the whole squad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FatNinjaKid 0 Posted June 30, 2003  With their skills from SOF2 and other games and our 'real life knowledge' I think we could fight the good fight whether against organized resistance or chickens with their heads cut off.  just remember  (we must hang together or we will surely hang apart) Do really think OF is that realistic? I could imagine 'real life knowledge' might turn out to be a disadvantage. In real life soldiers would probably act more carefully and be much more risk adverse than gamers. Well, Marines maybe not  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vitoal125 0 Posted June 30, 2003 Well, Marines maybe not  yep, just look at alot of those medal of honor citations Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tankieboy 0 Posted June 30, 2003 I was in the Royal Tank Regiment and we used to go down to the south of Germany to a US base to train on a program called SimNet. Very basic stuff, but it was a real good laugh all the same, sitting in simulated Abraham’s blowing the shit out of AI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ELiTe 0 Posted September 4, 2003 From what I gather, Singapore's Army is using OFP as one of the training tools... and encouraging our soldiers to go out and buy OFP for themselves so that they can "practice". Right now it's in the very preliminary stage, it's kinda like "exploring" how they can save costs on logistics by having some training done on "simulators". OFP is one of those "simulators" the army here is thinking of. There are 3 others, (Army Operations is another game they are using as "simulators"). Well, like I said in some posts a long time ago, the size of the targets through the iron sights in OFP is wrong... IRL I can see and hit targets 300 metres away fine.. in OFP, anything over 150m is hard to see, much less hit! At 300m, a man standing is the same height as the foresight tip IRL.. in OFP.... a man standing at 200m is already shorter than the foresight tip.. the engine doesn't do scaling properly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted September 5, 2003 the difference between VBS and OFP is quite large i think,in OFP we are just a bunch of untrain man with no teamwork, no fear, Rambo like morons, but in VBS they are all trained man who will work together in both the program ant the real thing, may be we could last longer if we have better communication skills, but still not much difference cause the result are most likely to being wiped out. but at less OFP tells me somethings (but not much) what i need to do to stay alive if there is a war happens in my country and i am called of for duty, and i hope the guy next to me is not a hardcore CSer .................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted September 5, 2003 but at less OFP tells me somethings (but not much) what i need to do to stay alive if there is a war happens in my country and i am called of for duty, and i hope the guy next to me is not a hardcore CSer .................... let him do whatever he wants. you do whatever you learned from OFP. result is in your favor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted September 5, 2003 but at less OFP tells me somethings (but not much) what i need to do to stay alive if there is a war happens in my country and i am called of for duty, and i hope the guy next to me is not a hardcore CSer .................... let him do whatever he wants. you do whatever you learned from OFP. result is in your favor. the bad thing for him is that he will not die like those in his fav. game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted September 5, 2003 Being in the military doesnt automatically make you better at OFP. Recently i played a LAN game against someones brother who is in the marines. I beat him pretty consistantly Only time i lost was when i drove me m151 of a clif Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zinco 0 Posted September 5, 2003 One of our squad members works on vbs. I don't believe bis is involved any more. I'll ask him to ask his captain if we could play a match of 1.92 ofp. i don't think we could play vbs as it has not been released to public and it is not totally compatible with ofp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyles 11 Posted September 6, 2003 but at less OFP tells me somethings (but not much) what i need to do to stay alive if there is a war happens in my country and i am called of for duty, and i hope the guy next to me is not a hardcore CSer .................... let him do whatever he wants. you do whatever you learned from OFP. result is in your favor. Not if that guy happens to be your commanding squad leader. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites