ralphwiggum 6 Posted July 9, 2003 to clarify a thing : VBS is NOT available for the private sector. -VBS was funded by USMC, meaning gov't of USA funded Coaslescence and BIS, and thus can impose restrictions on its availability. Even at VBS website, the eligibility for purchase only allows a gov't to purchase it, not individual groups that is not recognized as a gov't. So no matter how much we try, we won't get it. period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evishion 0 Posted July 9, 2003 that is what i sayd......ITS NOT FOR PUBLIC...but still pp's talk about it and much etc.....dont understand why Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VXR 9 Posted July 9, 2003 that is what i sayd......ITS NOT FOR PUBLIC...but still pp's talk about it and much etc.....dont understand why why should people not talk about it, offcourse people talk about something that looks very interesting and good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edc 0 Posted July 9, 2003 Quote[/b] ]VBS is NOT available for the private sector.-VBS was funded by USMC, meaning gov't of USA funded Coaslescence and BIS, and thus can impose restrictions on its availability. Even at VBS website, the eligibility for purchase only allows a gov't to purchase it, not individual groups that is not recognized as a gov't. So no matter how much we try, we won't get it. period. Well, we could revolt and or succeed and create our own country... But if we did that, we probably wouldn't have that good of relations with the US govt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nathanz 0 Posted July 9, 2003 Airport Counter-Terrorist Training Scenario Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXSHADOWS 0 Posted July 9, 2003 VBS has some good shots there for Terroist attacks.I love it when civilians lay on the ground when stuff happens.Very realistic.Now I see why this is a good Sim tool.VBS=OFP2 dont be fooled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drewb99 0 Posted July 9, 2003 I want that catering truck in the background Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nathanz 0 Posted July 9, 2003 I want that catering truck in the background Looks a bit wrecked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio 0 Posted July 9, 2003 Nice effects and scenes, but IMO the textures arn't that good... seeing these things up close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koolkid101 0 Posted July 9, 2003 Still beats regular OPF without addons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airwolf 50 Posted July 9, 2003 This is an addon though, rather an expansion i guess you could say for VBS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted July 10, 2003 It doesnt look that great, i see it has a training tool, designed for a very diferent use rather than a regular game, i dont think they need state of the art grafix or textures for simulation training stuff. OPF2 will be 100 times better then that for us . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edc 0 Posted July 10, 2003 But I'm sure that the actualy gameplay(if you would call it that) in VBS1 is a lot more realistic than OFP2'll be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ale2999 0 Posted July 10, 2003 It doesnt look that great, i see it has a training tool, designed for a very diferent use rather than a regular game, i dont think they need state of the art grafix or textures for simulation training stuff. OPF2 will be 100 times better then that for us . I think is just plain wishful thinking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted July 10, 2003 One think i always wondered bout VBS is the a.i. behaviour, i mean the way they behave in OPF seems very far from simulating r.l. stuff, running around zig zaggin, tanks that have sniper acuracy and kill you from the distance with one MG shot, the way the officer goes prone and then starts sending their subordinates to certain death one by one, running and seeing throu buildings, big list ... it would be impossible to simulate a hostage situation that involves cqb with OPF, perhaps they have improved a.i. for VBS1 big time and will use it in OPF2 , why cant a marine that likes OPF share some little info with us . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXSHADOWS 0 Posted July 11, 2003 I would think the AI should run and take cover when seeing the enemy not just hit the ground a start shooting.Or maybe start shooting while running for cover. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted July 11, 2003 I totally don't understand the fascination with VBS over OFP 1.91. What you guys need is to have someone from BIA to tell you the difference for us would not be that much. Someone should end the mysery. It reminds me of the stories told about America when I was back in Eastern Europe, which turned out to be 99% crap. Some things never change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXSHADOWS 0 Posted July 12, 2003 Well 1 thing that makes a difference is that I dont have it, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
302_Dragon 0 Posted July 13, 2003 Well I've used VBS1...actually I was using it today and to tell you the truth there is no difference at all. The interface is a little different but the gameplay and HUD setup is the exact same thing. The mission editor is the same as well, with a few small differences. I am currently trying to figure out if the addons can be transfered over to OFP....that would be sweet as hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted July 13, 2003 I am currently trying to figure out if the addons can be transfered over to OFP....that would be sweet as hell. misuse of federal property Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXSHADOWS 0 Posted July 13, 2003 Sweet as hell is right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
302_Dragon 0 Posted July 13, 2003 It's not mis use of federal property...already looked into it. The government only owns the licence not the game. The VBS1 system is nothing more then OFP packaged in a different box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted July 13, 2003 The license prevents members of the USMC from distributing VBS1. This means you're restricted from distributing it in whole or in part. Even if you extract a building or weapon model from VBS1 (or any of it's addons) and import it into OFP (or even attempt to import it - even if it's the exact same building or weapon model in OFP) you are in material breach of the license. I believe that this is grounds for an Article 15 minimum, though the actual legalities of it may be a bit different. Make no mistake, if any part of VBS1 is distributed, BIS and Coalescent will find out about it and the violator will be at the mercy of his chain of command. I heartily suggest that you keep VBS1 to yourself and let the rest of us seethe with jealousy. "Always Faithful" also applies to software licenses. Â Edited because Hooked on Phonics didn't work for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXSHADOWS 0 Posted July 13, 2003 Well,Looks like it will all be a big secert.That way nobody gets mixed emotions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
302_Dragon 0 Posted July 13, 2003 It's not a big secret...anyone can but the system. it's like taking a model from one game to incorperate into OFP...it's been done before. VBS1 is by no means confidential information...if it was then BIS and Coalescent couldn't advertise it on the internet "For Sale". The only thing I want to do is see if the 3D models of the vehicles can be converted to OFP...not steal VBS1 and burn illegal copies..THAT would be illegal. I am in no way even close to article 15. More studying of the UCMJ should be done before acusing me of anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites