ran 0 Posted October 29, 2003 Concorde was a technologic achievement ....... 26 kilometers of electrical wires ....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baron Hurlothrumbo IIX 0 Posted October 29, 2003 IMO this is a better acheivement... well.. an also impressive acheivement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted October 29, 2003 Tis a shame such a grraceful bird has had it's wings clipped. Lets hope Richard Branson does get the go ahead from the British Government to take over the British Concordes. Then they'll most likely see some action down under! Here's a did you know for some of you's. There was one other carrier who breifly operated the concorde, it was still owned by BA, but flew in a different companies livery. And no, not BOAC! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted October 29, 2003 didn't the Braniff and Singapore Airlines operate the Concorde for some time ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted October 29, 2003 Thats the two I know of. Are there others? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted October 29, 2003 these are the only ones , I think . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted October 29, 2003 well , i've seen drawings of the BAC TYPE223 and the X225 Sud Super Caravelle supersonic commercial planes (the "ancesters" of Concorde) it's quite funny to see how the design of the Concorde as we know it has been influenced by both of these planes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted October 29, 2003 Actually, after a little bit of further research, the Braniff livery never transpired, only artists impressions, note no registration code So therefore only one other company, other than airfrance and BA flew the Concorde in their livery, Singapore Airlines, and even then it was only one side Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted October 29, 2003 Concorde's Braniff service Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted October 29, 2003 Quote[/b] ]Concorde's Braniff service Quote[/b] ]Concorde was never painted in a Braniff livery, although there were many artist impressions (opposite) of what one would look like, if the service had contiuned it would have been more than likely that one side of the aircraft would have been given a Braniff livery, in a smilar fashion to what happended for the Singapore Airlines services. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted October 29, 2003 Quote[/b] ]Concorde's Braniff service Quote[/b] ]Concorde was never painted in a Braniff livery, although there were many artist impressions (opposite) of what one would look like, if the service had contiuned it would have been more than likely that one side of the aircraft would have been given a Braniff livery, in a smilar fashion to what happended for the Singapore Airlines services. but it was partly crewed by US personnal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snypa UK 0 Posted October 29, 2003 The americans were the ones who put concorde out of buisiness by protesting about sonic booms this meant no-one wanted to buy concorde. The other reason is that most of the big executives and managers who normally use concorde died in september the 11th.# Oh and the paris air crash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dauragon 0 Posted October 29, 2003 The americans were the ones who put concorde out of buisiness by protesting about sonic booms this meant no-one wanted to buy concorde. The other reason is that most of the big executives and managers who normally use concorde died in september the 11th.#Oh and the paris air crash it was more likely that not enough people were taking the concorde due to its high price and BA didnt have the sufficient funding for it so they scrapped it away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted October 29, 2003 The other reason is that most of the big executives and managers who normally use concorde died in september the 11th. Thats a bit presumptuous, outrageous, and very stereotypical. There's so many things wrong with that statement, I don't think I'll waste my time rebutting that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted October 29, 2003 The americans were the ones who put concorde out of buisiness by protesting about sonic booms this meant no-one wanted to buy concorde. The other reason is that most of the big executives and managers who normally use concorde died in september the 11th.#Oh and the paris air crash Unless you have some sources that back these outrageous claims, I suggest you do not post such utter tosh in the future please. Consider this to be a stern warning for flame baiting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted October 29, 2003 Unless you have some sources that back these outrageous claims, I suggest you do not post such utter tosh in the future please. Consider this to be a stern warning for flame baiting. I think it was just very poor humor and in bad taste but not intended seriously. Worthy of deletion, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pukko 0 Posted October 29, 2003 Shame about the Concord Will have to pop over to Sinsheim to see the Concordski and Concorde some time soon By the way, those that want to keep on living/flying the Concorde dream, you can download a Concorde for FS2004 Gimme a sec to dig out links EDIT: Vfr scenerys http://www.visualflight.co.uk/photoscenery/intro.htm Concorde http://www.fsfreeware.com/dcd/FS2004/Aircrafts/ You will need to look around for a panel " cockpit to use " Try one from here http://fsfrance.free.fr/Mach2/Download.htm I don't have FS2004 (yet), so no idea if that VFR scenery stuff is required or not I have been flying the FsFrance Concorde with FS2004 in the 2 latest flights of my 'WorldWide Tour' (which I primary do to improve my awful geographical knowledge, Started from Saddam International to Kabul, Islamabad, some Indian ariport at the roots of Himalayas, Singapore, Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Mauritius and Cape Town - will continue through most of Africa, South America and over to East Asia again). It is a little buggy in FS2004: approach autopilot (autoland) don't keep the height, and it seems to behave a little wrong in Mach 1 transition and high altitude mach 2 acceleration. But FsFrance will release a new version soon: http://fsfrance.webdynamit.net/forum....6b6894a The Concorde in your first link is only AI, and I have no idea why new vfr scenery should be necessary. But the FsFrance Concorde is really beautiful and well made (at least with Pedro Oliveira's 'project concorde 8.3' patch - you need to replace some lines in config flies to get it to work at all, and also if you are a lamer like me who want to fly with GPS instead of that INS), and will probably not be worse with the new version  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Gripe 0 Posted October 29, 2003 The americans were the ones who put concorde out of buisiness by protesting about sonic booms this meant no-one wanted to buy concorde. The other reason is that most of the big executives and managers who normally use concorde died in september the 11th.#Oh and the paris air crash Although the first part of the statement is anti american rubbish, many senior executives, for example at the brokers Cantor Fitzgerald, did lose their lives in the 9/11 attacks and these were the kind people who commuted between London and NYC whom BA relied upon to pay 8,000 pounds per ticket. Without this reliable source of income combined with the fact concorde was regularly at a third of capacity, allied with the increased maintenance costs introduced by Airbus as a result of pressure from Air France meant concordes demise was inevitable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Consigliere 0 Posted October 31, 2003 we already know what will happen to most of the Air France concordes (Sinsheim , Roissy , Toulouse , Washington and Le Bourget) but what about the British Airways ones ? I know that one will go to Frankfurt, one to Seattle, one to New York, one in Barbados ( ) and I forget where the rest will go. Anybody ever see the Pepsi Concorde? It was an Air France one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted November 4, 2003 I know that one will go to Frankfurt, one to Seattle, one to New York, one in Barbados ( ) and I forget where the rest will go. To the chop shop! Quote[/b] ]Concorde memorabilia - the perfect gift?1 hour, 21 minutes ago LONDON (Reuters) - It is the gift for the person who has everything -- a piece of Concorde, the supersonic passenger jet finally put out to grass last month after 30 years. Everything from a leather wine carrier to the droop-snoot nose cone of the flying work of art will be up for grabs at a sale in London by Bonhams Auctioneers on December 1, with prices ranging from 30 pounds to 35,000 pounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzlie 0 Posted November 4, 2003 Quote[/b] ]The americans were the ones who put concorde out of buisiness by protesting about sonic booms this meant no-one wanted to buy concorde. This ban was set after tests and flies of B-58 Hustler and it was way before Concorde era. It is sad that Concord won't fly no more And how to believe that not "money makes word go round".... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted November 4, 2003 Next up: the Airbus 380. Wish I could find some economy class pics. I bet it'll be about 20 seats wide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USSoldier11B 0 Posted November 4, 2003 Quote[/b] ]The americans were the ones who put concorde out of buisiness by protesting about sonic booms this meant no-one wanted to buy concorde. The other reason is that most of the big executives and managers who normally use concorde died in september the 11th.# Hmmm, I was under the impression that it was because the overhead was too high. Supersonic flight afterall, requires enormous fuel consumption. Since when do we Americans NOT like enormous, sleek, fast, gas guzzling vehicles? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denoir 0 Posted November 4, 2003 Next up: the Airbus 380.Wish I could find some economy class pics. I bet it'll be about 20 seats wide. Yeah, but does it have afterburners? Â Quote[/b] ]Since when do we Americans NOT like enormous, sleek, fast, gas guzzling vehicles? Since they're not American Actually at the time the Concorde was introduced, USA was very much against it and planned a Mach 3 version of its own. When later the project proved to be less economically successful than anticipated, they abandoned the plans for a plane of their own and accepted the Concorde. The Concorde was shut down, not because of environmental complaints but because the lack of imagination at BA and AF. What I still don't get is why BA refused to sell the Concorde to Branson when he offered to take it over. Instead they just shut it down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dauragon 0 Posted November 4, 2003 Next up: the Airbus 380.Wish I could find some economy class pics. I bet it'll be about 20 seats wide. Yeah, but does it have afterburners? Â No but it looks cool its currently being transported by pieces, on trucks , passing by french villages http://www.m6.fr/ click on Info on the left, then bordeaux, it will give a popup with a video Share this post Link to post Share on other sites