the_unknown_one 0 Posted May 10, 2003 i dont know... i played it round at a freinds once and realised the first bad guys u meet have silenced guns that LOOK like AK74s, as the magazine was plastic but i seem to remmebr the stock being longer than for an AKS74U. Also, i thought the guards that came later when u really piss em off had AKs74U's and body armour. not sure though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-CCCP-Stalker 0 Posted May 10, 2003 I think it was AKS74. They always use it in the game. BTW is the size of the MGS2 = 11 Gb ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king homer 1 Posted May 10, 2003 i think not 11GB is to much btw: i'll hope u release the Tanks soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLOY 0 Posted May 14, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (USMC Sniper @ 09 May 2003,21:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I also thought that the AK74/M can have silencers, I mean the AKS74U also has it, and it uses the exact same round. We are still going to make silenced versions of the AK47/AKM, since those are more realistic to be silenced. Oh and please people, stop complaining that the guns are imports, they actually look very good, and I have asked some of the original authors for permission already. Not to mention a LOT of the work has been done by ourselves, for example the LOD's, CPP (the cpp is huge), some textures, some model parts (such as the AKM hand guard), silencers, also model compiling (adding silencers, magazines, grenade launchers, etc). It's not that little work. Plus the VSS has largely been made by ourselves. <span id='postcolor'> The reason that AKS-74UB (regular AKS-74U cant have silincers) can be equipped with a silencer is that its muzzlebrake is thinner and a little bit shorter than that of an AK74 or AKS74U (thats why you cant attach PBSes to AK74's), and also, it fires special sub-sonic rounds....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrunchyFrog 0 Posted May 14, 2003 AK47 and AKM AKS47 and AKMS Whats the point? And is there a AKS-74M? Doesnt the the AK-74M have a foldable buttstock already? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 1 Posted May 14, 2003 Any news on the release date for your tank pack? -Soon? -give us a month? -never? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-CCCP-Stalker 0 Posted May 15, 2003 Give us a month or two. No. I'm not joking. Our realism freaks found new ways to improve the relealism of our tanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted May 15, 2003 Geez guys... Heres a hint. If you dont want people to keep asking for release dates...dont hype the mod way in advance as something that's almost ready if you dont plan to release anything at all for a few  months or more. If mods are going to show off all the stuff that's in the works with the "we'll release it when it's ready" attitude, at least give people a beta demo to try out to tide 'em over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-CCCP-Stalker 0 Posted May 15, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CanadianTerror @ 15 May 2003,19:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Geez guys... Heres a hint. If you dont want people to keep asking for release dates...dont hype the mod way in advance as something that's almost ready if you dont plan to release anything at all for a few  months or more. If mods are going to show off all the stuff that's in the works with the "we'll release it when it's ready" attitude, at least give people a beta demo to try out to tide 'em over.<span id='postcolor'> If I'll tell you how many addons are close to release you'll get shocked. It's about 5 tank packs, 3 plane packs and weapon pack. j/k And we don't release unfinished betas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
desantnik 0 Posted May 15, 2003 Heres an idea, instead of the when its done attitude, how about setting a concrete date. Â I would suggest something like June 22, at exactly 4:OO a.m. because it is in my opinion quite a lot of time (maybe not) but hey it is just a suggestion. Â That way you can do it to commemorate the beginning of the war, and give the Americans something to remember this date by. Â Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted May 15, 2003 When you get told its out when its done, accept it people... If you want some ordinary tanks you could have them now but if you want something new you have to wait... Patience is the name of the game... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
desantnik 0 Posted May 15, 2003 well it was a harmless little suggestion aimed at nudging them on in the right direction. I have no problem waiting all I just want to know is how long I must wait for.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted May 15, 2003 November 6, same day the Indiana Jones trilogy becomes available on DVD... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted May 16, 2003 Please understand we wern't trying to hype in advance, the problem is when we released first pics we were almost ready to release but decided to hold it off and add quite a few new features which I think is worth the wait. [EDIT] This is about the T55 pack btw[EDIT] but hey look at it this way if we develop these new techniques in the T55 pack the less ull have to wait for: T62 T72 T80 T90 packs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted May 16, 2003 [CCCP]Stalker wrote: </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">we don't release unfinished betas. <span id='postcolor'> Well then how about a finished one Also i am not sure but the T80's-T90's are more modern then the T55 so most features would have to be made from scratch. But i dont mind waiting makes playing them all the more fun. By the way make sure you do atleast 4-5 demo missions in SP, i could play different versions of the BAS demo missions for ages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted May 16, 2003 @ All those screaming about release dates... I know what is going into these packs, and I know the amount of effort the RSS guys are putting into it. Now, you can look at it in 2 ways. 1) You can be quiet, wait patiently, and get a series of addon packs that WILL rock your OFP world. OR 2) You can keep bitching on about it, RSS will release just the units, no scripts, no anims, no nothing, and all you'll get is the BIS units with better models and textures.. Think about it will you, I think that option 1 is much better dont you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted May 16, 2003 I cant see anyone bitching, just futile attempts at weasling themselves to new addons. And people "bitching" about release dates should in one aspect be taking as a compliment. Anyhoo take your time with the stuff as i implied i dont mind waiting it just makes it sweeter. Huggies and kissies to you all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-CCCP-Stalker 0 Posted May 16, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (GoOB @ 16 May 2003,17:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">[CCCP]Stalker wrote: </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">we don't release unfinished betas. <span id='postcolor'> Well then how about a finished one Also i am not sure but the T80's-T90's are more modern then the T55 so most features would have to be made from scratch. But i dont mind waiting makes playing them all the more fun. By the way make sure you do atleast 4-5 demo missions in SP, i could play different versions of the BAS demo missions for ages.<span id='postcolor'> All RSS demo missions for all addons will form a small demo campaign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted May 16, 2003 No one was bitching at all actually. Â And people will not bitch in the future I'm sure as long as release dates or hints at releases that get pushed back or whatever are just posted about so people know. I could wait forever if need be but I see the mod groups as the ones complaining so some common sense on their side as well is all it takes to stop the masses from complaining. @deadmeat Why stir it up? You are so quick to defend modmakers when no one was actually attacking them(or screaming) as you put it. Dont be so defensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted May 16, 2003 Keep up the goodwork all, i respect your position and i know how it's like when people "bitch" about release dates and so on. But it is just another form of positive comments. If anyone cant wait for something i have done i'd be gratious as hell. And Stalker, so will all addons have their own small campaign or am i missing something. Keep it up, i am really excited to have some A-Grade russian tanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted May 17, 2003 To show u people that there are more things coming up heres a little screenie of the tanks that we are preparing for release: OK it might be hard to count but there are 22 tanks on this picture taken from the T72, T80 and T90 packs. These are just the normal versions and plans are still open in making winter versions as well. ON another note we are looking for experienced island makers, also hoping they have somekind of modeling experience but that is optional Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coporal_punishment 0 Posted May 17, 2003 Wow that must have lagged your computer when you took that photo of those high quality tanks Soul_Assassin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-CCCP-Stalker 0 Posted May 17, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (GoOB @ 16 May 2003,20:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Keep up the goodwork all, i respect your position and i know how it's like when people "bitch" about release dates and so on. But it is just another form of positive comments. If anyone cant wait for something i have done i'd be gratious as hell. And Stalker, so will all addons have their own small campaign or am i missing something. Keep it up, i am really excited to have some A-Grade russian tanks <span id='postcolor'> No. All missions for T55 pack + all missions for VDV pack + all missions for T90 pack etc. will form something like one campaign. At least I will try to make it so. WE EXTREMLY NEED ANIMATION EDITORS !!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted May 17, 2003 I wonder if there would be any way to make those MG's on the top work only when the commander is turned out and that it is controlled by the commander. (it pivots with the commanders hatch) And those tanks look muy impresivo by the way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted May 17, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CanadianTerror @ 16 May 2003,18:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">@deadmeat Why stir it up? You are so quick to defend modmakers when no one was actually attacking them(or screaming) as you put it.<span id='postcolor'> I actually made that post to try and calm the RSS guys down... and to shut the people who are allways asking about dates up... I know that a lot of the RSS guys are getting worried about release dates and so on, when they need not. And I know that a few of the RSS guys are getting overly worried about people "forgetting" about the team because they have not released any addons yet... This is actually the major let down in the ofp community... as  the non addon makers dont seem to appreciate just how hard it is to make addons of the quality that the teams like BAS, RSS, DKM, UK Forces, and all the other teams are aiming to reach. Hours and hours (often days) are spent researching the addons, and then at least double that amount of time is spent making them, testing, fixing, testing, fixing, re-making, testing, fixing and so on... And the sad thing is, all we get in return during development is "when's it gonna be done?", "Why are you taking so long?" etc... Don't get me wrong... its great that you guys love these addons so much, but just cut us some slack please guys, we've asked nicely so many times, its getting beyond a joke... I know that at BAS and UK Forces we have a distinct "NO DATES" policy, and I believe that RSS is operating on a similar system, as release dates just don't work... there is allways that one bug to fix, or the server plays up, or something else like that... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CanadianTerror @ 16 May 2003,18:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Dont be so defensive.<span id='postcolor'> I know I am being very defensive... but when you've posted on numerous forums, in countless threads, AND replied to 110's if not 1000's of emails on this topic it kind of becomes habit... We all know that this game has HUGE potetial, and as with anything, it takes TIME to release it. So like I said, cut us some slack, you guys on the RSS team, calm down, don't worry about "fading away" as its not gonna happen. We'll all keep making the addons, and you guys will keep playing with them, so lets just chill, k? Oh, and on the whole "bitching" subject... In the UK, a common saying when people go on and on about something is that they are "bitching on about it" so lets just get that translation squared away too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites