ACTA2 voted today by EU

[vilas 477]

ACTA2 voted today by EU  , cenzorship in internet in EU countries soon begin , sad day for freedom in EU 

[Janez 533]

Damn, they caved. Crazy money must be thrown at this as they bought or extorted so many votes since last time. Truly a sad day.

Still, not all is lost yet. Stay vigilant European brothers and friends of good across the world.

 

Here is just another summary for anyone not familiar but please, feel free to look for more.

 

 

 

Russia seems to have implemented something similar as well.

 

 

[Tonci87 163]

The EU parliament is up for vote soon. Make damn sure that the politicians and parties who let themselves be bought for this shit do not get your vote!

[vilas 477]

another directive upcoming - called TerReg - called terrorist regulations - but in fact it contents cenzorship laws, which may be used against freedom of speech under "racism, xehophobia" and etc.

 

TerReg - please google yourselves, it says that websites should take down withing 1 hour any not apropriate violent extremist content - and looking what politicians do nowadays - they will take down any conservative politic ideas but won't take down real terrorist-content calling for example to set sharia law etc.

 

we start to live in madness - calling to kill atheists or Christians is okay, calling to put jihadists to prisons is racism, xenophobia, nazism, extremism  etc. with such regulation any non-left content may be removed from internet (as we know far-left terrorism is no longer counted as terrorism) and no chance for democratic diversity of opinions of any political side

[spooky lynx 73]

Terrorism has become something like Victorinox knife for politicians. It can be a universal excuse for any kind of crap done by them and for any amount of money they want to spend. Even despite the fact that simple diseases like flu or car accidents take much higher tolls of victims every year than the terrorism.

[vilas 477]

western europe in past used to had biggest number of freedoms, freedom of speech etc. full democracy etc.

now it changes, in France people are beating every day , martial law and west seems to not speak about it,

politicians in the name of "tolerance" "modern values" change our continent into more and more control of citizen, less and less freedoms (gun issue, property itself is being discused because they praise marxist Altiero Spinelli in EU, freedom of speech etc)

 

and number of victims - i believe that even single victim is too much but to destroy terrorism they avoid to find real reason of terrorism - religious freaks praising sharia , but they finding "extreme" people who want to live like our fathers and grandfathers, people who are traditional are "extreme",

nowadays "extreme" is to be like you was raised by your grandmother and "extreme" is being patriot - which was normal 50 years ago , nowadays "extreme" it to say that 2 gays cannot give birth (which is natural from biological point of view, but "modern europe" deny even biological differences between man and woman which is crazy for Poles, Russians , Hungarians)

 

the biggest terrorists are politicians themselves causing mixing non compatible cultures in one land, terrorists are CEOs' of corporations which abuse other countries to export profit to corporation-hq location from "third world countries" , terrorists are CEOs' of banks,

 

thats why they want to control and cenzor the internet - because in the internet there are independent media which show movies that mainstream (government media or corporations media) will never show (movies from attacks of "refugees" on natives, movies from yellow vest beaten by French Police because they do not want to pay such high taxes for lazy non-working benefits taking people), they want to ban it all and only information (information = voters) that would exist will be "politically correct" - despite it is lie

 

many many young people in my land do not watch TV and "official propaganda", they watch youtube channels to find truth , not lies given by big corporations which produce fake-news  (the best example I remember was showing that "majority of refugees are ill old people and small children and woman" and than camera shown boats full of only adult strong men) ,

so EU politicians want to ban YT from Europe because on YT you can find real news - you can see how muslims attack women on street , how they beat someone and say that atheists and christians must be killed etc. you can see riot police in France beating taxpayers who work hard not sitting on benefits, you can see news from countries like Brunei where sharia law set punishment of 5 years in prison for showing-off Santa-Claus hat or Christmass Tree , this is truth they want to hide, they want to hide movie when LGBT activist threatens someone for being heterosexual,

they want to hide movies showing when far-left politician says that property of individual people should be confiscated to give it to refugees and gays - such things are not shown in mainstream media because they show corruption and moral zero of those left wing politicians, YT media inform about true stuff from WW2 history , noone in mainstream will say that Jews were leading Stalin era secret police - such things are only in independent media that politicians want to hide because they deal with Israel

 

the biggest victim of "counterterrorism" is truth ,

people in democracy should know all facts and vote depending on their belief - but they must know fact

if people are misinformed that democracy is senseless - how can someone vote if he knows only half of facts  ?

 

real freedom of choice depends of things we know - than we go and put our vote in elections , we vote for what is good for us depending on informations we know,

the most important is that we should know all , than we can vote "if this or that is chosen"

 

cenzorship is worst thing killing sense of democracy, in democracy people vote but first they must know facts and have full information - like in court, judge has information from prosecutor and from  advocate , than he decides,

the same is sens of democracy - we see all "forensic" information and we decide - to vote on A or B or C

 

after all those Actas Terregs democracy will be fake - i see it in mainstream media - for example only left wing parties are being introduced in studio by journalist, so voters who only watch TV do not even know that other parties exist, they seen in TV broadcast with party A, B, C, but there exist party D, E, F - but they are never introduced to mainstream media, but they have their channels on YT which EU want to ban - which is antidemocratic

 

2 biggest TV stations in my country which belong to big foreign corporations never introduced "National Movement" politicians to studio - is this democracy ? this is not democracy when they introduce only "Catholic Socialists" "Left Wing Ally" "European Democrats" "European Socialist" to studio - this is not democracy , all parties should be introduced and people should vote for which is closer to them

 

what is sens to discuss in studio with people who all are left-wing ? but such things happen in mainstream media belonging to corporations

governmental TV informs only about ruling party , and only YT channels show that there are other parties and that there are other facts , they never introduce conservative economist to studio, never , they never introduce economist who would say "taxes should be lower, we should cut benefits because it makes people lazy, we should cut spendings on government because ministry spends too much on changing furniture for officials, money spent on limousines for state officials are wasted money"

 

they only introduce economist who says "we should focus on spending more on benefits and we must find way to tax more" , they never introduce someone who would say "you should have gun in your house and right to shoot burglar because your property is the most important for you" - never , such people are only on YT and in USA (there is democracy, there is freedom of speech) - European politicians afraid because we want to live similar to Americans and have similar rights

[spooky lynx 73]

3 hours ago, vilas said:

so EU politicians want to ban YT from Europe because on YT you can find real news

Maybe you don't know but YouTube is a part of large trans-national corporation for several years already. And it has already quite effective censorship mechanism. It may be one of several information sources but not the only one.

3 hours ago, vilas said:

they want to hide movies showing when far-left politician says that property of individual people should be confiscated to give it to refugees and gays

WAT? Are you serious?😅

This reminds me an old joke:

- Mr. Rabinovich, why do you want to leave Russia?

- I am not pleased with current attitude to homosexualism.

- But what does upset you?

- Come on, during Stalin's reign a person could be imprisoned for it, during Brezhnew's reign - could be placed to mental disease clinic, now homosexualism is free to practice and show.

- So... What's wrong?

- I want to leave before homosexualism becomes mandatory here.

[vilas 477]

On 4/5/2019 at 1:00 PM, spooky lynx said:

WAT? Are you serious?😅

 

there was similar statement by not only one politician, 

one of previous government officials from party that ruled Poland before 2015  said that people must pay taxes to finance blocks of flats for refugees and flats built by state should be only for refugees and never for natives, 

other politician from previously ruling party, now opposition, said that LBGT should get flats free from payment for hire, 

and in France one left wing politician said that white people should not have children to give space to non-white in Europe (Yves Cochet) 

look at this - anti-white racism - police do not want white males, they say they do want women or non-white : 

we have several left wing politicians saying that for example we natives must pay bigger taxes to fund flats free of charge for non-natives etc. 

so such things in EU do exist, such loonies which should be treated as menatlly ill - are politicians leading "pro-european modern movement"

and for example this:

 

 

or this:

 

 

 

 

or they hide that person whose name is on EU parliament - Altiero Spinelli said that property should be redefined and he denied right to property (communism) 

 

guy who denied right to private propery - Altiero Spinelli is now name of main building of EU Parliament - this is sick totally sick 

 

 

worth quoting 

 

so we natives in Europe became enemies of leading EU politicians - so they want to set cenzorship in Acta2 or TerReg form - to block our mouths to punish for thoughts - like in Orwell book Year 1984 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3823706/European-human-rights-chiefs-orders-British-press-NOT-reveal-terrorists-Muslims.html?fbclid=IwAR04J5AIl9f_6R0JJg6wh0Bw6sx4aureWBcOXPup2SAif3KJF0Wym0OhIkk

 

EU becomes Year 1984

 

 

[target_practice 163]

ACTA2 isn't about politcal censorship, it's an aggressive copyright enforcement policy. That doesn't make it any less ill advised, but misconstruing its nature and basis is not constructive.

[vilas 477]

ACTA2 wants prevention checks , cenzorhip in fact, YT CEO said that due to Acta2 YT in EU may be closed, so when YT is closed all independent broadcast disappear from EU 

 

https://www.stopacta2.org/en/

 

prevent filter is in fact cenzorship

 

link and quotes - how can someone quote politician words in other agency when other agency has copyright and do not want to allow quote  ? 

 

copyrights should be protected completly other way, simply there should be told that piracy is when someone copy movies, photography, music, gaming-parts etc. than action is taken against him etc. 

but not preventive filters , not blocking links or quotes , than it is cenzorship, 

similar to terreg when extremism is not defined , regulations should go into more and more freedoms, not less and less, 

there should be freedom of speech guaranted and for example websites like FB should be punished for cenzorship and their politics which bans patriotic profiles of people - so this is crime against freedom of speech 

[target_practice 163]

12 hours ago, vilas said:

ACTA2 wants prevention checks , cenzorhip in fact, YT CEO said that due to Acta2 YT in EU may be closed, so when YT is closed all independent broadcast disappear from EU

If that truly is the case then I agree, it is a serious concern. I would however hesitate to describe youtube as the only source of independent media.

 

12 hours ago, vilas said:

there should be freedom of speech guaranted and for example websites like FB should be punished for cenzorship and their politics which bans patriotic profiles of people - so this is crime against freedom of speech  

Given the kind of people they have focused most of their efforts on banning, I can't help but feel this is stretching the meaning of 'patriotism'.

[vilas 477]

On 4/6/2019 at 8:34 PM, target_practice said:

If that truly is the case then I agree, it is a serious concern. I would however hesitate to describe youtube as the only source of independent media.

 

Given the kind of people they have focused most of their efforts on banning, I can't help but feel this is stretching the meaning of 'patriotism'.

 

they ban people for telling historical truth , for example about crimes of Israel (crimes against Palestinians) or Jews (in Communist secret police NKVD or UB)  or Muslims (terrorism, WW2 in SS against Serbs and orthodox Christians)  so they ban for truth , freedom of speech is not existing in western europe just as not in FB - but everyone blame Putin for being non-democratic, lol, if Putin was only person who make cenzorship laws, lol , all "hate speech" laws are in fact cenzorship , now even historical truth is endagred cause you cannot say about that many Jews were in NKVD/UB, you cannot say that Israel commits crimes on Palestinians, you cannot say Muslims make attacks and were voluntary joining SS during WW2 killing Serbs (official version is that Serbs are "bad guys") etc.

they even ban critics of feminism-looney and gender-looneys , they ban hunters for showing off hunting trophys (hunting exists since thousands of years and human eat meat ), so we have global problem of vanishing freedom of speech, we had freedom of speech in 00's nowadays in 2019 we start to have more and more cenzorship and rewriting history (Jews deny that Poles were also huge group of victims of holocaust etc) , we really start having problem with cenzorhip over internet , and every one just blames Putin for his laws , but west and FB does the same and it is shame, cause cenzorship is part of communism, we fought against communism because we hated cenzorship just as we hated confiscation of property, now we face cenzorship again in our lives (we - i mean people like me, from "eastern"  Europe which lived in communism before 1989 and now communism returns, fight against tradition, fight agains property , social benefits for lazy non working bastards, cenzorship, limitation of gun laws upcoming etc. i hate communism and commies because they limit freedoms  )

 

freedom should treat all people equally - if nation A commited crime over nation B - we can say it, but when nation C commited crime against nation D - suddenly we cannot say "because it is racism, hate speech" etc. ? wtf

all nations, all religions should be treated equally - all people should be treated equally , without "holy cows" -  musicians tear and burn Holy Bible on stage - is anyone is in prison for it ? well - try to do the same with Quoran or Tora - is it eqality ? why noone punishes for defamation of Catholics ? what about Armenians holocaust by Ottoman Empire etc. ?

we have people (in EU or USA) which are in prison for "hate crimes" - we also have "artists, musicians" which burn Bible on stage - and courts say it is "freedom of expression",

we must have laws that treat people, religions equally - without special right of anyone, and this should be guaranted by freedom of speech - without any cenzorship or bans - there should be no holy cows otherewise we do not have any democracy , democracy rely on freedom of speech and equal treatment of any competitor

 

the same problem is with sending toxic trash/waste - i know people who were banned on FB when they re-posted posts / links with informations about current Canada-Philipne  waste "war" (similar problem Poland has with Germany but Polish gov is soft), Indian farmers vs GMO corporation from USA ? the same , so FB cenzorship IS HUGE PROBLEM

p.s.

i was banned several times for quotes of what Quoran or Talmud says about nonbelievers/others (for quotes) so do not tell me about wrong patriotism if we cannot even quote Talmud (or Rabin Ovadia Bin Josef who said that non-Jews are born to be slaves of Jews) or Quoran "infidels are worse than animals" etc.

[Sanya 97]

On 4/5/2019 at 4:00 PM, spooky lynx said:

Maybe you don't know but YouTube is a part of large trans-national corporation for several years already.

YT is not a part of trans-national corporation. But this corporations can buy fake accounts for a banning.

[Janez 533]

Another great point by James Corbett that ties into this.

 

[krycek 349]

On 4/25/2019 at 9:54 AM, vilas said:

 

they ban people for telling historical truth , for example about crimes of Israel (crimes against Palestinians) or Jews (in Communist secret police NKVD or UB)  or Muslims (terrorism, WW2 in SS against Serbs and orthodox Christians)  so they ban for truth , freedom of speech is not existing in western europe just as not in FB - but everyone blame Putin for being non-democratic, lol, if Putin was only person who make cenzorship laws, lol , all "hate speech" laws are in fact cenzorship , now even historical truth is endagred cause you cannot say about that many Jews were in NKVD/UB, you cannot say that Israel commits crimes on Palestinians, you cannot say Muslims make attacks and were voluntary joining SS during WW2 killing Serbs (official version is that Serbs are "bad guys") etc.

they even ban critics of feminism-looney and gender-looneys , they ban hunters for showing off hunting trophys (hunting exists since thousands of years and human eat meat ), so we have global problem of vanishing freedom of speech, we had freedom of speech in 00's nowadays in 2019 we start to have more and more cenzorship and rewriting history (Jews deny that Poles were also huge group of victims of holocaust etc) , we really start having problem with cenzorhip over internet , and every one just blames Putin for his laws , but west and FB does the same and it is shame, cause cenzorship is part of communism, we fought against communism because we hated cenzorship just as we hated confiscation of property, now we face cenzorship again in our lives (we - i mean people like me, from "eastern"  Europe which lived in communism before 1989 and now communism returns, fight against tradition, fight agains property , social benefits for lazy non working bastards, cenzorship, limitation of gun laws upcoming etc. i hate communism and commies because they limit freedoms  )

 

With this I can agree, ain't falling for the populist crap that spews their agenda by using people's common fears, but this politically correctness to the extreme bullshit has become a big issue lately in the last 3-4 years, and when people don't agree they either censor\ban\denigrate\fire them with some pathetic excuses when it doesn't fit their own agenda.

 

And it's not only in politics or on matters like unchecked migration, it's very prevalent in entertainment too be it movies or games but also in general like in media.

I mean many of us probably laughed with what kind of bullshit propaganda RT was getting away but now it's enough to visit CNN and other "media"  for comedy/cringe moments. When they're caught using the same methods of course it gets a pass. Although not related to european affairs the Sarah Leong from NY Times shitshow comes to mind.

It's also not hard to spot since most of the time it's something forced/artificially introduced be it some history event that gets rewritten or playing the victim card so well when they're lil' extremists themselves (the example with the 8456 genders/nouns/diversity quotas comes to mind).

[vilas 477]

 

On 5/24/2019 at 11:05 PM, krycek said:

 

but this politically correctness to the extreme bullshit has become a big issue lately in the last 3-4 years, and when people don't agree they either censor\ban\denigrate\fire them with some pathetic excuses when it doesn't fit their own agenda.

 

 

 

even more, people loose jobs,

last day in Poland we have big scandal, Swedish company IKEA fired one man for criticizing LGBT propaganda (Poland is catholic country, IKEA came here and force their opinions) , i am banned and many people are banned on FB for saying we are against LGBT propaganda

trade unions in Poland protested because in one VOLVO company (also Swedish) in Poland there was propaganda forced and workers had to listen speeches that "multiculturalism is super, LGBT is super , mixing races and nations is super" - people want to work , earn money, not listen to propaganda,

i was banned on FB several times for saying things which are common in my catholic society, now i am banned for 30 days for disagreement with firing man who criticized LGBT in Ikea in Poland (huge social media spark in last days)

 

gays demand cenzorship in media, they demand banning freedom of speech and punish for criticism of LGBT

[lordfrith 401]

1 hour ago, vilas said:

gays demand cenzorship in media, they demand banning freedom of speech and punish for criticism of LGBT

 

no... they don't, they mostly just want people to stop 'saying things which are common in my catholic society' so they can get on with their jobs and so on. sound familiar?

 

you've repeatedly stated in screes of posts your opinions on this, giving the full set of half-truths, out of context adverts, shoddy youtubers and memes as evidence.

 

what does this have to do with ACTA2?

 

 

 

 

[spooky lynx 73]

4 hours ago, vilas said:

trade unions in Poland protested because in one VOLVO company (also Swedish) in Poland there was propaganda forced and workers had to listen speeches that "multiculturalism is super, LGBT is super , mixing races and nations is super"

LOL what?!

Heh... Thank you Lord they perform just a mandatory speeches but not homosexual relations...

[vilas 477]

2 hours ago, spooky lynx said:

LOL what?!

 

yes:

 

https://bezprawnik.pl/volvo-solidarnosc/

 

https://nczas.com/2019/06/27/teczowe-volvo-zarzad-fabryki-we-wroclawiu-atakuje-pracownikow-propaganda-lgbtq-nawet-na-tasmie-produkcyjnej-nie-zostawia-w-spokoju/

 

https://zboralski.dorzeczy.pl/kraj/106687/Afera-w-fabryce-Volvo-Firma-chce-utworzyc-spolecznosc-LGBTQ-protestuja-zwiazkowcy.html

 

https://niezalezna.pl/277740-pracownicy-protestuja-reklamy-zniknely-zwiazkowcy-z-volvo-mowia-nie-lgbt

 

those leftist idiots do not understand that their actions will cause anger of normal regular people in future , the more they force people the more anger arise , 

bans, propaganda, cenzorship etc. this is  EU in XXI century 

 

[krycek 349]

If he was fired for refusing to go at an lgbt event then that's really fucked up, but he also gave them ammo with the bible verses in that context.

[vilas 477]

If he was quoting quoran than they would give him extra money....  muslims (sharia) execute lgbt and it doesn't bother swedish managers, let those managers care about human rights in Saudi Arabia instead, but in SaudiArabia they remove women from catalogue due to respect to culture.... yeaaah  

 

Somehow Sweden hosts ISIS muslim terrorists and they do not see it as problem but catholic in Poland is problem for them...

 

People should be treated eqally if muslim or jew has extra treatment than catholic too, if catholic doesn't than muslim or jew also should not

 

We are Europeans, Christianity is our culture, The Bible in catholic coutry is not wrong, its our tradition, its our culture, its our morality basis, it is no invading values or others, it is ours

 

Majority forced by minority , we should preserve our culture and tradition ,to still be nations, europeans, not others, we should never allow to change tradition, culture, roots

 

Job/work is place where we go to waste 8 hours of life that will never repeat to get money we need to pay bills, not school to teach life

[lordfrith 401]

6 hours ago, vilas said:

We are Europeans, Christianity is our culture, The Bible in catholic coutry is not wrong, its our tradition, its our culture, its our morality basis, it is no invading values or others, it is ours

 

Majority forced by minority , we should preserve our culture and tradition ,to still be nations, europeans, not others, we should never allow to change tradition, culture, roots

 

you say that like the last 2000 years of European history just hasn't happened! you want no parliament, a god-ordained absolute monarch and to be forbidden to own land but have to beg for a meager strip to rent at extortionate prices and you get to fight in all his wars? We peasants have the freedom we do today because of 1000+ years of fighting for change (that's when we weren't fighting to steal entire countries at gun point of course 😉) The whole point behind what became the EU was to finally end the long standing European tradition of blowing the shit out of each other every few years. That was usually 'Conservatives'  but hey, i'm sure this time they really have our best interests at heart!

 

HISTORY! it explains how we got here!

 

I don't believe in post colonial guilt or whatever, It is not our responsibility to atone for past sins, but it is our responsibility to learn from our history to hopefully avoid the worst bits repeating too much.

 

and yes that does mean we may have to change. You are typing your deeply personal opinions on an international forum for video games for example, that is not a traditional exchange, it is rational to expect to compromise. From what you've posted literally all you have to do is stop posting homophobic slurs on FB, is that really so difficult?

 

let recap the white persecution:

 

On 4/5/2019 at 4:37 PM, vilas said:

police do not want white males,

 

the london police once advertised to see if some more black or gay people or whoever wanted to join (the force is predominately white male? i think).  there is zero harm in trying to increase your profile amoungst different people. Its really so simple, it helps the police do their job. Still plenty white people joining if that worries you for some reason. zero news story

 

On 4/25/2019 at 7:54 AM, vilas said:

we have people (in EU or USA) which are in prison for "hate crimes" - we also have "artists, musicians" which burn Bible on stage - and courts say it is "freedom of expression",

 

some people are in jail for persecuting actual people for not being a 'normal regular person' and yet people who burn a book are allowed to go free...  that seems unfair?

 

6 hours ago, vilas said:

If he was quoting quoran than they would give him extra money....  muslims (sharia) execute lgbt and it doesn't bother swedish managers,

 

some guy got sacked for refusing to attend a compulsory training day,  Volvo are gay-muslim-illuminati confirmed!

 

and you still haven't explained how any of this is remotely on topic for the EU passing a copywrite law months ago.

 

[spooky lynx 73]

5 hours ago, lordfrith said:

and yes that does mean we may have to change.

Unfortunately now the accusation in 'homophobia' is very close to Middle Ages-era accusation in heresy.

21 hours ago, vilas said:

yes:

Oh... Just... 

[lordfrith 401]

4 hours ago, spooky lynx said:

Unfortunately now the accusation in 'homophobia' is very close to Middle Ages-era accusation in heresy.

 

i know what you mean, i'm not gonna try to make any kind of defense for how people behave on social media etc, there is a certain kind of crazy going on just now right enough. i'm just arguing that we should diagnose the problem properly rather than falling back on the familiar patterns. This isn't a new problem but the circumstances have changed substantially with technology.

 

i think the highly addictive nature of social media is responsible for a large amount of the hysteria, humans get a good endorphin rush all dumping on the same person. I see no evidence that its linked to any particular ideology though, this seems to be a deeper reptile-brain problem shared by everyone 😞 . When it comes to being dicks on the internet then its very diverse eh 😉

 

its still not so close to the middle ages heresey, nobody has been burned alive for not loving musicals yet. meanwhile there is an actually existing fucking witch hunt where gay people are being persecuted and i'm here, still happily free so far, reading this thread telling me that we're all the victims because we can't call people racial/homophobic slurs anymore. It seems madly disproportionate, it is not necessary to make this much of an issue out of this unless one really, really has an issue with homosexuality in the first place.

 

 

[krycek 349]

11 hours ago, lordfrith said:

its still not so close to the middle ages heresey, nobody has been burned alive for not loving musicals yet. meanwhile there is an actually existing fucking witch hunt where gay people are being persecuted and i'm here, still happily free so far, reading this thread telling me that we're all the victims because we can't call people racial/homophobic slurs anymore. It seems madly disproportionate, it is not necessary to make this much of an issue out of this unless one really, really has an issue with homosexuality in the first place.

 

Except it's not that disproportionate when you take into account diversity quotas in corporations that somehow hiring based on race instead of skill isn't racist, universities from US like Princeton banning words that contain "man" or that lovely Gillette ad at the beginning of the year that sooooooo indirectly suggested that men are a bunch of rapists&bullies and I could continue.

Or the hypocrisy of oppressed women or persecuted gays in Europe yet no one gives a shit about women&gays "rights" in Middle East, perhaps those feminists in Sweden or some other european country should see some vids with how women were beheaded, tortured or set on fire by some of those animals in those countries.

Yeah good luck with media showing even 0,0005% of that stuff, but suddenly a guy looks at a woman weirdly in an elevator omg bring the execution squad and headline for a week on every major news channel.

 

Or the recent bans of conservatives(true, with also some far right weirdos) from Twitter and other social media but somehow far left is free to spew their crap. All of these examples isn't something isolated here or there or strictly in Europe (or in US).

So no, I don't agree with persecuting minorities but this ain't a "free for all" card for them to shit on others or their believes.

 

Live and let live but I have a big problem when others be it corporation B or media conglomerate A is condescending and have the shit attitude of "we know better so you behave or else" or is bringing this crap into an workplace.

I do agree with you though that right now it seems both the extreme outrage sides need one another,it's like they fuel each other but with the exception that one side has about 80-90% of media(including entertainment) airing their ideas no matter how stupid are some of them while the other side opinions are all considered something moronic at best and need to be censored at worst.

Indirectly this has a connection with ACTA2 because with the same people at the buttons that are also at the top of those media conglomerates or corporations they'll be free to do even more harm.

 

It's so easily to brand a group as extremists or terrorists these days when they ain't parroting how they want.

Look at the power of social media, these ultra turbo huge shit throwers. When it was used for Obama to win or the Arab Spring (look at how those territories look now) to be in full motion everyone was ecstatic,when the same methods were used by other buffoons like Putin, Orban, Trump or for Brexit now it's suddenly the work of Satan's spawn together with Cthulhu and Belzebuth.