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This R5 3600X is a rather good Arma3 player.

I will probably go for 16 Go GSKill Neo 3600 MHz C16 when available but I still don't know if I can bought a better GPU ...

 

Same player shoot again 😎

 

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a - frametimes

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b - fps

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On 5/7/2019 at 7:32 PM, clawhammer said:

Which preset are you guys using ? With ULTRA i get 32FPS and with low iam around 43FPS

 

Iam using Ryzen 2700x + RTX 2080.

This is the ram that i use: 2x -> F4-3200C16D-16GVKB (16-18-18-38) @2800mhz

 

Its horror that the i7 4790k i bought 2014 gets the same fps...

Wow

with Ryzen 3700X and F4-3866C18D-32GTZR iam now with 50fps at standard and 40 with High. Rams currently only run with 3600mhz and 18-18-18-38 timings. I hope that soon a new bios give me these rams with 3866. Wished to get the jucy 60FPS but no luck with that :D

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Well, for testing purpose, and comparison sake,  I am using the presets the game is displaying Standard is "Standard" and Ultra is "Ultra".

 

The minimum for testing and playing is Standard presets because when you switch to "Low", some of rendering jobs are transferred to the CPU, using "Low" means for the game engine that your graphic card is so bad it can compute shadows, particles ..., so remember never  to use "Low" presets unless you are forced to.

 

In game, I am using "Ultra" Quality but limited Visibility parameter down from 3800 m to 3200 m the value set for playing on our Clan game server.

Setting down the Visibility Overall value helps all our members to get a playable FPS level.

Even if the GPU has get some more importance since  Visual Upgrade , in Arma* the CPU is still the boss!

 

I am also using custom parameters in the AA&PP section because I fight blur, bloom and depth of field, disabling all that stuff that makes the picture blurry and  I set also sharpen filter to 100.

 

With such parameters, in game, performances on my AMD test rig [R5-3600X/Rx-570-4GB/16 GB-3200/B450M], are at the same level as the performances I am getting on my current game rig  [i7-7700K/GTX-1060-6GB/16GB-3200/Z270].

 

If you want to get a glimpse at the "Graal" some are looking for,  you must switch to an Intel high end CPU/high end Nvidia GPU combo.

Arma3 is playable and enjoyable when the FPS level currently stay over 30 FPS and that's the case on my gaming rig and on the R5-3600X based rig I have on my bench ATM.

 

I had briefly tested a build based upon a R5 2600 and found it and I found it a bit disappointing, performing more or  less at the level of my  [i7-4790/GTX-1060-3GB/16GB-1866/Z87] spare rig.

 

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@clawhammer 3866 CL18 is very bad for Ryzen, because Infinity Fabric can't operate at 1933 MHz (3866 MHz) and it switches instead to only half of the speed - 967 MHz, to guaranty 3866 MHz operation of RAM. And also 18-18-18-38 is really high for 3866 MHz.

What you can do, is to manually switch your RAM in the BIOS to 3600 MHz, so Infinity Fabric can run at 1800 MHz instead of only 967 MHz and without changing RAM voltage or anything else RAM related, put your RAM to operate at 16-16-16-36 instead of 18-18-18-38.

Because your RAM operates at 1.35 V, which is same voltage as for 3600 CL16 kits.

You will see your FPS will improve and latencies will go down.

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just remember you can manually disable the automatic 1:2 (the threshold in new UEFI bios is 1833)

so if you lucky you can run uCLK/fCLK at 1833 or 1866 or 1900 in sync

 

also i recommend Ryzen DRAM calculator 1.6 (or newer) for tweaking memory timings https://www.overclock.net/forum/28064156-post4887.html

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i changed my F4-3866C18D-32GTZR now to 3600Mhz and 16-16-16-38 and got an FPS increase of 3 FPS. Now iam at 53 at Standard Benchmark. Still a long way to the magical 60FPS 😄

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@djotacon  I am sorry to say that we don't need a YouTube video runs with weird settings to understand that a R9 3900X is not fit to be a winner for Arma3 gaming Blue Ribbon.

Using an Intel processor of 2017 to get nearly equal performances is telling the story.

 

Nevertheless, I had previously said a Ryzen R5 3600X is a really good Arma3 fighter 😎

 

 

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1 hour ago, oldbear said:

@djotacon  I am sorry to say that we don't need a YouTube video runs with weird settings to understand that a R9 3900X is not fit to be a winner for Arma3 gaming Blue Ribbon.

Using an Intel processor of 2017 to get nearly equal performances is telling the story.

 

Nevertheless, I had previously said a Ryzen R5 3600X is a really good Arma3 fighter 😎

 

 

Are you talking for the entire forum? or the entire internet?...

 

I post the video to show a video using the LOW SETTINGS that came with the game - do you see the video? -  and using an OC 7700k  the game cannot achive the 60 fps.

 

I find this funny when I see people posting "fantastic" fps performances using others OC's settings...

 

One point: the 7700k isn't a processor of the 2017 ... is the "CPU" of the year 2017 the difference with an 9700k is a 10% more fps...

 

You can see the power of this "old" 7700k in this video using STOCK settings:

 

 

Second point: the main upgrade of the ryzen series 3xxx is the AVX2 instructions, now this cpu i-set isnt emulated anymore and you can achive a lot of fps in the yaab test using the CMA memory allocator and the AVX2 version for free.

 

I suggest make a bench using AVX2 instructions and the 3600.

 

 

 

 

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So far, I dont' t clearly understand what are you trying to say or prove.

As I have said previously, "in game, performances on my AMD test rig [R5-3600X/Rx-570-4GB/16 GB-3200/B450M], are at the same level as the performances I am getting on my current game rig  [i7-7700K/GTX-1060-6GB/16GB-3200/Z270]".

By the way, I am only using out of the box hardware.

I believe that's it's great to be able to play Arma3 today on a full AMD build, as I had enjoyed playing Operation Flashpoint on my AthlonXP 2000+/ATI 9000 years ago, It makes me feel younger 😎

 

 

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A bit later ...

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BIOS Version 1820 , updated AGESA 1.0.0.3ABBA involved.

AMD test rig R5-3600X/Rx-570-4GB/B450M upgrade with G.Skill 16 GB-3600 NEO.

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