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UNSUNG TEAM RECRUITING

 

In order to continue producing this great mod at a high level of quality and quantity for the Arma community

we are currently looking for the following people to boost our team productivity:


2 x model porters
- porting models from arma 2 to arma 3 (e.g. motorbike, bicycle, helicopter, tank)

- you need to have basic knowledge of Arma Tools (object builder)

- we can teach you the rest, you just need to be willing to follow our guidance.

- These posts allow people the ability to grow and develop their knowledge in model development.

 

2 x building artists

- high level of ability to make new scale models from scratch in whatever program you use

- uv mapping and texturing models

- we can import to p3d / rig / animate / and config

- The buildings are for a new urban map based in Hue 1968 that our world-builder artists are developing.

- Your creative input to that map would become legendary!

 

To be part of our team you will need

- about 6-10 hours a week for no pay, except being part of a supportive 14 year-old modding team

- open-minded and teamworking mind-set

- skype account for group-chat

- tortoise svn (we can teach you how to use that)

 

Interested? please send me a PM or join the skype group here

 

ok now onto the plan....

 

HUE 1968

 

We are planning to build a giant map of Hue City, 1968, to re-enact the Tet Offensive battle for Hue between

16 battalions of ARVN, US Army and USMC vs 10 battalions of PAVN and PLAF (VC).

 

 

 

The city has a giant historic Citadel with moats from the Perfume River

 

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this is our satmap so far

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this is the approximate area footprint we plan to create

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Some useful resources

http://1project2far.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/six-block-war-finding-your-way-around.html

http://www.miltours.com/image/data/brochures/lneckhuepart2.pdf

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B2vQ__WUjXkGaHNUWnYxRjQyT0E?ths=true

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BwNE3oNWMiBDRGV3R2JlT24yMHc?ths=true

 

original map from 1968 and other free maps of vietnam here:

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/vietnam.html

 

original vietcong 2 assault on the citadel

 

this is the key one - the MACV compund and streets to the bridge

 

 

 

 

 

 

The aim is to build both banks of the river, with a variety of key features:

- the hospital, treasury building and provincial admin building, cercle sprtif, MACV compound, etc - the main focus of fighting

- citadel, Dong Ba Tower, Tong Tu Gate, West wall bridge, etc

- Nguyen Hoang Bridge (6 hump suspension road bridge)

- factories

- churches

- cinema

- shopping streets

- housing
- river and canal bridges

- stairways

- bunkers

- offices

- roads and street furniture

- fences, walls and railings

 

We are also building a range of new armour and air assets to support this battle, which will be added to Unsung mod during the coming year, these include:

- M41 Walker Bulldog

- M42 Duster

- M50 Ontos

- PT76

- Type 63 APC

 

we also need a new M274 Mule - if anyone fancies making one, or donating for it (Edit - Howells is making one)

 

some pics of Hue buildings follow. We are keen to attract some new modellers to help

- port and convert Takistan buildings and other A2 assets (not much experience needed as we can teach you)

- retexture A3 assets if and where possible (and legal) (texture artists familiar with photoshop or gimp)

- build new models (experienced modelers - we can help rig and config for arma)

 

We feel that the release of this map will be a legendary event in the Arma series. Why not join the gang creating it?

If you don't have much experience, we still have work, so long as you are prepared to make a commitment to completing one model task.

Time-wasters need not apply! the work can be hard, so you mainly need enthusiasm and endurance.

 

so yeah, it's a big project, we need people who can make street-signs, shop signs, railings, bridges, rubble piles, right up to citadel bastions, bridges and cathedrals.

so if anyone out there can lend a hand, it's gonna be an awesome battle in the end - a legendary map for the arma series.

we already have the satmap done, with the rivers and canals already in.

 

Razorback, Londo and maybe Icebreaker are gonna be working on the basic layouts and ground textures

 

we just need a lot of buildings and parts. I have imported a lot of stuff from takistan already, but if we could get some guys wh ocan just do the importing process on more of the takistan houses, i can help them with a process to follow, and guidance. it's a good way to learn your way around arma building models.

then we need texture people to retexture the buildings to vietnamese colonial colours and signs, add shutters and details etc

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we need:

 

anything you see in here

http://s162.photobucket.com/user/eggbeast/library/Unsung/Hue City?sort=3&page=1

 

- citadel parts

- citadel features

- smashed river bridge

- railings, walls, fountains

- stairways

- arches

- colonnades


I have the original huge photos on my hdd for any budding artists to use, plus we have 2 members of the team heading to vietnam this year who can get more pics of specific things.

 

especially keen on period street furniture, and buildings like this

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Hue bridge

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street furniture, bailey bridge

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citadel bridge

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street frontage

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see these shops in the rear can be adapted from the takistan buildings pretty easily

this is why we also need model porting help - i did about 10 takistan buildings in a week, including all the wrecks and damaged parts. it's a chore. but great when it all works in game.

 

railway station and shops

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Hotel frontage

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citadel walls

peter-alan-lloyd-BACK-vietnam-war-backpa

 

damaged waterfront restaurant

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citadel pagodas

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colonial housing

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railings and bus terminals

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artillery-pounded buildings/ rubble stacks

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cinema

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nice colour pic of same street

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we could almost use altis houses for this type

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Hue MACV base

ThomasPilschMACVHue.jpg

 

cathedral? or maybe the treasury building

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I wish you luck on your endeavor. I only wish there was a team like yours with such dedication to recreate a city like Berlin or Stalingrad during WWII!

 

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well we've had a great response so far:

 

milkman has kindly offered us al lhis takistan building ports, so we can start placing them on the map, and then concentrate on creating new materials for the key landmarks.

we have two building modellers who have come forward, and they can start on those landmarks.

we have someone looking at the Mule

razorback and jones are comparing notes on the satmap

we will soon have a 2d streetplan of what area we will build.

 

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Sadly I don't have any modding experience whatsoever or I would love to help :down:

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you can track down pictures of elusive landmarks for us if u like

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7 hours ago, eggbeast said:

you can track down pictures of elusive landmarks for us if u like

 

Sign me up for that :p

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cool thanks man

maybe have a look at the map of Hue here

Hue 1:12,500, Edition 3-AMS (29 ETB), Series L909, National Imagery and Mapping Agency, 1968 (12MB)

 

and watch the movies, and see if you can start digging

 

current hit list:

- the hospital, treasury building and provincial admin building, cercle sportif, MACV compound, etc - the main focus of fighting

- citadel, Dong Ba Tower, Tong Tu Gate, West wall bridge, etc

- Nguyen Hoang Bridge (6 hump suspension road bridge)

- other buildings around the hospital

- ARVN compound inside the citadel

- Phu Bai airbase to the south

 

please rename the pics wit hthe building name at start of filename and drag them to:

 

Landmarks

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B2vQ__WUjXkGaHNUWnYxRjQyT0E?usp=sharing

Street buildings

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BwNE3oNWMiBDRGV3R2JlT24yMHc?usp=sharing

streetsigns or map details

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B2vQ__WUjXkGeHVPa25iNnkxYzQ?usp=sharing

 

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@eggbeast I could create you a texturemapped FBX terrain node 3D model for your artists to model onto.  This could be useful for some of the terrain specific buildings, fort, walls, bridges etc.  This would allow them to create assets that fit the terrain and minimise post-modeling tweaks required with structures to achieve desired results.

 

Send me a pm if this would be useful to you.

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thanks for your offer to us. am trying to understand what you mean, im not a terrain editor.

im guiessing you mean like a ground-textured cushion /model - you then align this with your terrain, and it fits the bottom of your model to save you modifying either.

is this right?

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Sort of, think its being lost in translation :D

 

This image will give you a better idea

 

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I have extracted the terrain mesh, along with the satellite mask into a uvmapped FBX model, which I can use in 3dsMax (should work in any 3D app) to super-impose my models ontop of, so when I port them into Arma there is zero messing around with the model itself, because it was created using the terrain mesh as a guide :)

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hey Uro, i'm sorry but i still don't understand this, and nor do the house model makers, due to our lack of experience wit hthis kind of thing. We are really grateful for your offer, and can see this must be of value, so please can you pop into our skype chat and maybe we can come to understand it!

sorry about that!

skype group is here just click the link here when you have skype open

thanks! and sorry for being dumb.

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so in order to make the Truong Tien bridge (6 spans on giant concrete pillars)

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we have today bought this model as a base to work from (thanks to a kind donation from Oddball-47 Ronin)

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just need to add

 

 

a walkway with side rails and cables

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and modify the overhead parts, and the connecting places

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and make an approach layout

 

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and then add a wreck for the central spans so the VC sappers amongst you can have fun blowing it up

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I would be more than happy - delighted, even - to supply you with some reasonable quality photos of the Imperial City taken in 2009; bullet damage, etc., is clearly visible.

 

Not captured with ArmA in mind (I hadn't heard of it then) but I hope might aid one of my favourite ArmA projects.

 

Warm regards

 

Orc

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sure stick it into the google drive we shared, if you need links pm me

 

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some early WIP pics of stuff the guys made this week (not final game content)

 

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+ saigon embassy we weren't expecting thanks to Variable!

arma3_2017_03_03_23_39_57_47.jpg

 

arma3_2017_03_03_23_49_29_35.jpg

 

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+ a roadsign from evo dan

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the macv building by LJ

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(this)

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early trials of the bridge model

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Just uploaded some pics :p

 

1 question though,

 

i found some pics of  a camp inbetween Hue and Phu Bai. it was constructed in januari 1968 and home to the 1st Cav div,

untill 1969 when the 101 airborne took it over and renamed it camp Eagle. And all the pics i can find is from Airborne troops from 69, would these still be relavant ?

 

CampEagle2.jpg

 

 

 

 

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yeah sure

can you find the exact location on the map? would be possible to include it

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Here you go, its about 7km from the city.

I dont know how big your planning to make the map, but because you mentioned Phu bai (which is another 9km further south) i thought id mention it.

 

Spoiler

thuathienmap_1.jpg

 

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Well for anyone making a vietnam map and looking for inspiration check out this link, http://www.panoramio.com/user/1643333 

Its has over 7000 pics of Cities, bases, landmarks, plantations, you name it

 

Currently at page 125, uploading any usefull hue pics to the google drive.

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thanks mate, great so camp eagle is pretty much exactly where we had moved the phu bai airstrip to on our limited range map

check first post for the map i added

there will need to be a merger of the two on that site.

 

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