nikiforos 450 Posted November 7, 2016 I plan to buy a new computer soon but I have a dilemma about the CPU and the GPU I want to buy. So it's either the combination of i7-6700K 4.0 GHZ and the GTX 1060 6GB version or the i5-6600k and GTX1070 .. It's a budget question and I have to go with one of the alternatives.Any ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teabagginpeople 398 Posted November 7, 2016 I plan to buy a new computer soon but I have a dilemma about the CPU and the GPU I want to buy. So it's either the combination of i7-6700K 4.0 GHZ and the GTX 1060 6GB version or the i5-6600k and GTX1070 .. It's a budget question and I have to go with one of the alternatives. Any ideas? Have an i7. I'd go with the i5 /1070. It's simple really. the i7 will give you minimal to no performance over the i5 in the vast majority of games arma included. However the case is not the same with 1070 vs 1060. 1070 is around 40% faster so nearly twice the power. It will drive 1440p at 144hz not breaking a sweat. frankly the question is what resolution you gaming at. 1070 is overkill for regular 1080p gaming. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teabagginpeople 398 Posted November 7, 2016 There is alot to answer here and very little information. Budget for one. First thingd sell your old pc for around 300 euro. Again assuming you are in Europe. Can't be specific. I can say go Intel. Again. No budget so can't be specific . Get a gtx 1060 minimum. Again can't be specific. But from a 280 it seems logical course. Get an ssd. Crucial bx are a cheap but still decent option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikiforos 450 Posted November 7, 2016 Have an i7. I'd go with the i5 /1070. It's simple really. the i7 will give you minimal to no performance over the i5 in the vast majority of games arma included. However the case is not the same with 1070 vs 1060. 1070 is around 40% faster so nearly twice the power. It will drive 1440p at 144hz not breaking a sweat. frankly the question is what resolution you gaming at. 1070 is overkill for regular 1080p gaming. Thanks! Well I only play 1080p and that is the reason why I mentioned the first setup. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teabagginpeople 398 Posted November 7, 2016 Thanks! Well I only play 1080p and that is the reason why I mentioned the first setup.Ahhh see. Hmm. Me personally Nik I'd get the 1070. Reasons why. It's more powerful yet 1 3Rd the price of last years top tier card gtx titan. prices of monitor's will only come down as push for 4k comes faster more commercial ( PlayStation pro). You are playing 1080p now. But that may not be the case for too long. I game on arma 27 inch 1440p.I can now mever go back 1080p. Honestly 1440p is the sweet spot right now in gaming. And should you see a monitor for cheap you won't pester yourself will my pc run it. hell that said so will 1060 :D. My point being the i7 regardless once it's a gaming rig the extra cost just cannot be justified. Hell i5 /gtx 1060 and the change spent on a hooker. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teabagginpeople 398 Posted November 7, 2016 Just out of curiosity is that the only change or whole new rig. If so post parts case and stuff be nice to see. If it's just a swap in out cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3D_vet 29 Posted November 7, 2016 I play occasionally, and work a lot with the computer. If you work a lot with Photoshop (ps is mostly cpu and ram), you're a bit better off with the 6700k. Also you do video edit or 3d render, the i7 is an advantage. I've noticed that in my render times. Some 3d packages and video editors do use the GPU, but with its limitations. In CPU mode you usually can access all the features. You would also benefit from the higher multitasking but if you are not a heavy multitasker, run few things at a time or mainly one app, then is almost the same. If i were only to play, and not high budget, yes, I would go 6600k and maybe just the 1060, even... (because am very used to play in 1080p or less...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vasily.B 529 Posted November 7, 2016 Exacly as @teabaggingpeople says. Vudget... how much money you want to spend?For GPU - dont get R280. I have R9 270oc from gigabyte and its maybe enough but you could see its on its edge of possibilities. Aim much higher with GPU, you dont need to buy all at once.R9 380 is better, and if you wont need this asap, collect your money and get it from MSI.But arma is (for now) CPU intensive, specially in terms of #Ghz per core. Tahe MINIMAL 3,5Ghz i5 - i have it and fro 23-50FPS you can enjoy battles (large battles). I didnt tested AMD cpu's but heard they work pretty wel in armas.I will buy new PC in december propably, and will use my friend scheme:R9 480 Gaming X (4gb, from MSI)i7 6700K 4Ghz (x4, good for overclocking)And ddr4 ram 2300MhzAt friend pc's arma is handling at stable 40-50FPS, but he use frame limiter, so screen is not so "tearing", but other games runs at stable 60 FPS at ultra settings.So in case of CPU you can experiment with AMD, but best - find someone who have one, ask him how's arma 3 handle it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldbear 390 Posted November 7, 2016 If you are not in a hurry, I will suggest to wait a bit until next year to get a "Kaby Lake" i5-7600K or i7-7700K. Not only for the small performances jump, but also for the overall update of a Z 270 based platform. Here and now, a i5-6600k and GTX1070 based rig is a good gaming option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikiforos 450 Posted November 7, 2016 My budget is around 1500 euros. The only reason I consider the 6700K is that I want to avoid future upgrades for the next 4 years and to be more future proof . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teabagginpeople 398 Posted November 7, 2016 My budget is around 1500 euros. The only reason I consider the 6700K is that I want to avoid future upgrades for the next 4 years and to be more future proof .That's a good budget. you'd get an i7 and 1070 in there. You must have something else in the budget?https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ That's just a quick rough draft. But has the guts of what you need coming in around €1200 . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikiforos 450 Posted November 8, 2016 I think I will go with i7 6700k and Asus 1070 8GB.. This an upgrade for the future so I want to avoid any upgrades for the upcoming years. Also I'm not upgrading because of Arma but it would be good if I can see any benefits for this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mack. 59 Posted November 13, 2016 To the guys running multimonitor setups: Whats a realistic system to run 3 x 1080 monitors and at which settings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
domokun 515 Posted November 14, 2016 3 monitors @ 1080p = 3x 1920x1080 = 1920x3240 In terms of resolution, that's about halfway between 1440p & 4k. Here are benchmarks from Hardware Unboxed's rig (i7-6700k @ 4.5 GHz & 16 GB DDR4-3000): So given that a GTX1080 provides 80 fps @ 1440p (2560x1440) and 40 fps @ 4K (3840x2160), I think it's fair to say that a GTX1080 would provide about 60 fps @ 1920x3240. Of course, you'd also need an equally fast CPU + RAM. Overall, I'd estimate that'd cost $1160 ($600 for a GTX1080, $330 for a 6700k, $150 for mid-range Z170 mobo & $80 for 16GB DDR4-300). If it helps justify it, a PC of that calibre could prolly run any game, even the latest (Fallout 4, The Division, The Witcher 3, BF1, Far Cry Primal) in 3 x 1080 @ 60+ fps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamsus 11 Posted November 17, 2016 Hi everyone, despite being vanished from the forum i'm still playing super Arma3 on my faithfull i52500k, 8gb RAM, gtx 760! Probably i want to upgrade my system soon - and one of my priorities is obviously Arma3! I would like to go for i5 6600k\6700k + 16GB RAM And here the first question - reading some comments, it seems worth to invest on fast speed RAM (3Ghz?) - are those components affidable enough? Second question: i mostly play on 1080p, and i really dont think i'll be changing to any higher resolution soon - is a good Nvidia 1060 6GB a good investment for the purpose? Or also for Arma3 the difference between 1060\1070 is remarkable? Thanks everyone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
domokun 515 Posted November 17, 2016 6700k will be slightly faster than 6600k but the difference will probably be negligible, especially if your overclock (recommended) whereas the 6700k is 50% more expensive so get the 6600k and save yourself €100 as for the difference between 1060 & 1070 @ 1080p, see for yourself: So my advice, is stick with GTX 1060 if playing at 1080p and save your cash for faster RAM, e.g. DDR4-3000 and/or big (256+ GB) SSD. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamsus 11 Posted November 17, 2016 6700k will be slightly faster than 6600k but the difference will probably be negligible, especially if your overclock (recommended) whereas the 6700k is 50% more expensive so get the 6600k and save yourself €100 as for the difference between 1060 & 1070 @ 1080p, see for yourself: So my advice, is stick with GTX 1060 if playing at 1080p and save your cash for faster RAM, e.g. DDR4-3000 and/or big (256+ GB) SSD. Thank you pal, unluckly i think that my MoBo is actually not compatible with DDR4-3000 RAM, probably have to go with some Corsair @2400mhz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ceeeb 147 Posted November 17, 2016 What motherboard do you have? It doesn't make much sense to buy a 6600k/6700k CPU for a H170 motherboard. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamsus 11 Posted November 18, 2016 What motherboard do you have? It doesn't make much sense to buy a 6600k/6700k CPU for a H170 motherboard. A fashioned Asus P8H67 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
domokun 515 Posted November 18, 2016 A fashioned Asus P8H67 P8H67 only supports CPUs with a LGA1155 socket, e.g. 4+ year old CPUs. That leaves you with 2 options: 1. keep your P8H67 but run the fastest LGA1155 i5 (i3570k) & fastest old RAM (DDR3-2400) = €150 + €90 = €240 2. replace your P8H67 with a cheap Z170 mobo (MSI Z170-A PRO), latest i5 (6600k) & latest RAM (DDR4-300) = €75 + €220 + €85 = €380 * all RAM prices are for 16GB (2x8GB) Beware that LGA1155 CPUs are no longer sold new, so you'll have to buy one second-hand (cheaper but riskier). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamsus 11 Posted November 19, 2016 Thanks everyone for the reply, i'll value a bit better with the christmas period that is incoming :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teabagginpeople 398 Posted November 19, 2016 Thanks everyone for the reply, i'll value a bit better with the christmas period that is incoming :)Black Friday and cyber Monday. Keep an eye for parts on the cheap or savings to be had.Ps be advised kaby lake supposedly drops January. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamsus 11 Posted November 22, 2016 Black Friday and cyber Monday. Keep an eye for parts on the cheap or savings to be had. Ps be advised kaby lake supposedly drops January. Yep, actually i got a special deal with a little computer shop near to my home (Italy-Florence) so i can give them back Processor\RAM\MB\VideoCard for a good discount on a new machine that probably will be i5-6600K (with a cooler ready for OC) 16GB ddr4 2666Mhz or 3000Mhz Gygabyte GTX1060 6GB Reusing my SSDs ;) Thanks everyone again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSG-Levi 7 Posted November 25, 2016 in case anyone is intrested in ArmA preformace on ultrabooks: i've tried it on the Dell XPS13 i5-7200U (intel 620 iGPU), PCIe SSD.​every setting on low or standard, no AA, 1080x1920, 1000m VDim getting ~24fps in the editor and in low AI pupulated simple misions in the Tanoa cities ~20fps.​just for the science, i've tried 3200x1800 and its about ~4fps :( so its fine for editing and testing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamsus 11 Posted November 28, 2016 I want to thank everyone for your suggestion. This saturday (thanks to various discounts etc) i built up the new PC and now Arma 3 runs really smooth! I'm loving it even more. Thanks again 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites