akvadakar 21 Posted September 8, 2015 Hey guys, here is first release of Zeus mission. It is MP only (tested mostly in dedicated server) - Zeus creates mission in real-time for other players. DOWNLOAD no-addon version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/hmqf2y2cv9bg97x/%5BBIS%5D_Zeus.rar(Zeus = 3x Spetz Natz) You can change class names in init.sqs. You can pre-create groups/units in editor - just add: [this] exec "mark.sqs" in init line of each group leader so Zeus can see them. However I do not recommend using waypoints for these units because Zeus may have problem to use MOVE AI function. Enjoy & post any suggestions / bugs! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenoxite 156 Posted September 9, 2015 I was only able to test this in local MP and just by myself, but it looks good so far. A couple things: Skye has some addon dependencies that weren't included in your zip file. I guess you used v2, found here. It'd be better if you make all those markers invisible (type "empty") at the start of the mission, and change them back to whatever the icon you need is when needed. While you've placed them out of the way, they are still visible by all the players and it's quite immersion breaking and somewhat annoying. Other than that, all the options I tested seemed to work fine in my limited tests. The Zeus menu interface could use some cleaning and repositioning so each area is more clearly divided (spawning, AI orders, teleporting, etc), but I know what a pain creating those dialogs is, so I can sympathize if you just leave it that way. There's also the inverted Z in the Zeus particles display, but that might be a stylistic choice. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akvadakar 21 Posted September 9, 2015 Hey kenoxite, thanks for the addons for Skye island. I will hide the markers in next version. I used mando3dwrite.sqs to show that text and I have no idea why the Z is inverted or how the script work at all so lets say it is stylistic choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_noob 88 Posted September 9, 2015 Cool stuff. Here's some suggestions from me: - the "Zeus" person spawns at the same place as the other players so other players could abuse him if he doesn't teleport fast enough (maybe make him invisible to others?) - it would be cool to have a spectating cam for your own spawned units or for the players team (there was some "spectate" option but I was able to spectate only myself) - objectives for players, either setting the score or time limit before the mission starts or some in-mission objectives like "assassinate that guy", "ambush that convoy", "clear that base", "go to that position", etc. - AI ranks for possible increased difficulty - how about natural disasters like floods, burning trees, falling meteorites, heavy winds, etc? ;p I'm aware this might be a bit too much to ask for and might require some special scripts and/or fwatch to work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krzychuzokecia 719 Posted September 9, 2015 - the "Zeus" person spawns at the same place as the other players so other players could abuse him if he doesn't teleport fast enough (maybe make him invisible to others?) That's a good idea indeed. WW4 have a dummy civ unit (Civillians->WW4 Assistants), which is invisible. Since EXT requires Sanc's WW4, You could use that unit, instead of BI civillian, in EXT versions of mission. - objectives for players, either setting the score or time limit before the mission starts or some in-mission objectives like "assassinate that guy", "ambush that convoy", "clear that base", "go to that position", etc. - AI ranks for possible increased difficulty 1. I dunno how it's made in A3 (or VBS where the roots of Zeus-style gameplay lie), but from what I gather it's up to Zeus player to provide the backstory, etc. So text messaging on white channel is essential. 2. IIRC there's a skill slider in ZEUS menu. But I don't know if it affects groups. BTW: Zeus players should remember to never spawn helicopters above water. I assumed that air assets are spawned on some predefinied altitude, but soon I learned I was wrong ;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_noob 88 Posted September 9, 2015 That's a good idea indeed. WW4 have a dummy civ unit (Civillians->WW4 Assistants), which is invisible. Since EXT requires Sanc's WW4, You could use that unit, instead of BI civillian, in EXT versions of mission. 1. I dunno how it's made in A3 (or VBS where the roots of Zeus-style gameplay lie), but from what I gather it's up to Zeus player to provide the backstory, etc. So text messaging on white channel is essential. 2. IIRC there's a skill slider in ZEUS menu. But I don't know if it affects groups. BTW: Zeus players should remember to never spawn helicopters above water. I assumed that air assets are spawned on some predefinied altitude, but soon I learned I was wrong ;) What I ment was to include end triggers for certain tasks if that's possible. Else there's no actual objectives there and the only way to end a "mission" is to kill all players. That slider seems to have no big impact on AI behaviour, generally it's the ranks that increase their accuracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akvadakar 21 Posted September 9, 2015 I will make the Zeus spawn little further so players cannot see him at start but I do not want to make Zeus invisible. The spectate option is to observe players only. All AIs have COLONEL rank and the skill slider works (for groups/vehicles/single units etc. - mostly in WW4 you can see great difference). The problem with objectives is that I cannot broadcast "TEXT" to other players from Zeus. https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/publicVariable However I will probably just add a selection of objectives for Zeus which he can use (ambush convoy, clear area, move to etc.). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akvadakar 21 Posted September 11, 2015 First post updated: Added WW4 version on Kodiak. Updated markers (empty type), removed Civilian8 (police officer), fixed behaviour/combat mode setting, fixed AA groups, updated create unit/groups/vehicle/tank scripts. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_noob 88 Posted September 12, 2015 Missions like this prove that OFP is still a very advanced game with lots of potential, despite it's age and certain engine limits. Keep up the good work. :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenoxite 156 Posted September 12, 2015 First post updated: Added WW4 version on Kodiak. Cool. But it'd be better if you remove the link to Kodiak v1.1. WW4 Extended already includes a custom version of that island which uses buildings with removed window panes. This was done to avoid the problem with WW4 units becoming invisible through them. Those window-less buildings are found in vanilla WW4, so this version of Kodiak isn't standalone (it requires WW4). When you install WW4 Extended you already have the correct version of Kodiak, as it's bundled with it. Linking the the old non-WW4 compatible just confuses things further. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akvadakar 21 Posted September 12, 2015 @the_noob thank you! @kenoxite thanks for info, updated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akvadakar 21 Posted September 22, 2015 Updated Zeus (no-addon version only) Added "tasks" (hints), much faster Zeus UI, Zeus can revive all dead players by 1 click in his menu, Players can see friendly/enemy units markers (depends on MP lobby setting), players see map animation when Zeus teleports them + bug fixes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akvadakar 21 Posted February 14, 2016 New update for no-addon version (see the first post) - I will try to create the WW4 2.5 version ASAP. Up to 3 players can be Zeus now. However they share some variables so it can be tricky sometimes ;) Also updated some scripts and added a few new options in Zeus menu. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulmann 45 Posted April 2, 2016 I will try to create the WW4 2.5 version ASAP. When? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted April 2, 2016 When? As soon as possible :ph34r: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krzychuzokecia 719 Posted April 2, 2016 Which, in modding terms, usually translates to... when it is done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulmann 45 Posted April 2, 2016 As soon as possible :ph34r: Which, in modding terms, usually translates to... when it is done. I understant it, last message from Akvadakar date 15 feb. Today 2 april. :rolleyes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProfTournesol 956 Posted April 3, 2016 I understant it, last message from Akvadakar date 15 feb. Today 2 april. :rolleyes: And ? Are modders forced to follow a schedule ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulmann 45 Posted April 3, 2016 And ? Are modders forced to follow a schedule ? No, but I think more than one month this is no ASAP. Anyway I don't understand you reaction, I ask only Thread Starter when release new WW4 Extended version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macser 776 Posted April 3, 2016 ASAP means "as soon as possible". As in, "as soon as it is possible for me to do so". Not super extra fast. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akvadakar 21 Posted April 3, 2016 Ah I am sorry guys, I had to change my HDD to SSHD so I lost most of my data. Anyway, the only thing you have to do is to change class names in init.sqs file from original OFP to WW4 class names. (+ put the units on map so it does not lag when you spawn new unit) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cigarette_bear 0 Posted March 6, 2017 Yo. @akvadakar You may not see this but I would like to question, how do I change class names in init.sqs file for WW4. Can you teach me how? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macser 776 Posted March 6, 2017 Just find the class name you want to replace and put it into the appropriate section. So class SoldierWB, SoldierEB or SoldierGB ( Default West,East or Res soldiers) could be replaced with whatever WW4 classes you want to use instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cigarette_bear 0 Posted March 6, 2017 @Macser Where do I find this? Can you teach me how? I'm pretty new to scripting and editing missions. lmao plez help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zulu1 145 Posted March 6, 2017 Try the link in the first post. Playing as Zeus you basicly build a mission for other players in real time. Its a take off of AMRA2 MCC Sandbox and Zeus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites