Boris Nemtsov - Anti-Putinist - Shot and Killed

[Sub-Human 10]

4 minutes ago, Boris Nemtsov, famous political oppositioner, has just been shot in the center of Moscow:

Russian opposition politician Boris Nemtsov was shot to death in central Moscow late Friday, Interfax reports.

#Nemtsov was shot dead right in front of the Kremlin. A group of men in a car stopped in front of him and fired 4 shots

Edited February 27, 2015 by Sub-Human

[sudayev 27]

Yet another, very strange death. Obvious execution, barely 200 meters aways from the Kremlin...

For those who don't want to wish to read propagandist website Sputniknews. Putin's sad, will investigate of course...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31669061

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/27/us-russia-nemtsov-idUSKBN0LV2LA20150227

[JdB 151]

Another armed robbery gone bad. Luckily these criminals never target pro-government politicians and journalists :rolleyes:

[Bashka_IF 1]

Obvious provocation before the planned opposition meeting in Moscow at 1 march.

Boris was a well-known figure in the past, but not as bright as the anti-government politician Navalny

who recently was trialed 2 times and 2 times given a suspended sentence, not even real sentence.

Too bad these things happen.

[Sub-Human 10]

Unfortunately for Putin, you cannot write it off as 'armed robbery' - men drove up to him in a car, shot four times, then quickly escaped. It is obvious assassination.

In the true style of the cynical Russian government, Peskov said that Nemtsov 'was no threat to Putin politically'. Just like in 2006, when Putin said Politkovskaya 'has little influence on Russia politically'.

Like with every other political crime, Putin will smirk and offer his condolences and an 'investigation' that gets shelved once the press moves on.

[ProfTournesol 956]

Obviously a less discreet method than the good old polonium poisoning, but probably a less traceable one.

Edited February 28, 2015 by ProfTournesol

[beastcat 14]

Investigation? Whats that?

[spooky lynx 73]

4 minutes ago, Boris Nemtsov, famous political oppositioner, has just been shot in the center of Moscow:

I'm really surprised how quickly main 'free' media and opposition members spread this news across the world... Guys were you at standby regime? Had you any timer working and showing how much seconds left to this event? Even the family of murdered is not seen and did not give any comments but all the western crew is already mourning about their beloved friend.FPDR This event really shows to me that western elites don't give a crap about anything when it comes to reach their goals. Start civil war? Easily. Shoot the plane? Easily. Kill the opposition politician in another country and start media hysteria just after it? Easily. Just the same thing happened a year earlier when a number of persons was killed at maidan for sake of enraging the crowd and speeding up the coup.

[Tonci87 163]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-5a2cxW0AAWb5g.jpg

Investigation? Whats that?

Well I sure hope they are cleaning up AFTER they have documented and searched everything....

[oxmox 73]

The question is who is behind this organized crime and why ?

Apart from this, the weight of the media critics will fall like a ton of bricks on Putin.

[beastcat 14]

Well I sure hope they are cleaning up AFTER they have documented and searched everything....

The screenshot is from a livestream which went on for a few hours.

Pravda - Who killed Boris Nemtsov?

Here we go:

Was President Vladimir Putin behind this murder, or was it someone else?

To begin with, everyone agrees that Putin is a brilliant strategist and politician. Against all odds, Putin has so far brought Russia from the brink of utter poverty, disintegration, and disaster. One has just to watch him improvising a press conference, calmly, competently, and tirelessly, to realize that one is dealing here with a real, almost forgotten, specimen of a lost art: superb statesmanship.

So, we need to ask ourselves: What could Putin gain from the killing of Nemtsov? On first sight, it might appear that he had plenty to gain, for the two were clearly at odds about the future direction of Russia. But with an 85% popularity rating-by far the highest of any politician on our war-ridden planet-Putin has no need to assassinate his opponents.

Moreover, according to the facts put forward by a CIA-sponsored publication, and despite attempts to lionize the likes of Kasparov and Nemtsov in the Western captive media, Nemtsov was a political small potato who posed no threat whatsoever to the immensely popular Putin. Thus, Wikipedia tells us: "In the parliamentary elections of December 2003 the Union of Rightist Forces, whose list was headed by both Nemtsov and Chubais, received just 2.4 million votes, or 4% of the total, thus falling short of the 5% threshold necessary to enter Parliament and losing all of its seats in the State Duma." Nemtsov didn't even manage to get elected as mayor of Sochi, winning a mere 14% of the vote in the 2009 mayoral elections of that city. Putin would have to be not only ruthless but insane to order the killing such an obviously unpopular fifth columnist.

As well, and contrary to everything we hear in the Western CIA-owned media, it would be totally out of character for Vladimir Vladimirovich to order the assassination of political opponents. Over the years, Putin had to put up with any number of home-grown traitors, who had deliberately or naively forgotten the entire history of Western crimes against Russia, and who had been dead-set on resurrecting the disastrous, servile, Yeltsin era. And yet there is no evidence, solid or circumstantial, that Putin had ordered the assassination of dissenting voices.

Or to give another of many example: In 2008, one suspects, Putin would have liked to continue serving as president of the Russian Federation. And yet, despite his probable wishes, despite the fact that Russia needed him, he chose to play by the rules and ceded the presidency-and at least some powers-to Medvedev. Does that sound like a man who would assassinate a misguided or bribed unpopular opponent?

So, even if no candidates presented themselves for the role of Nemtsov's would-be assassin, it would appear highly unlikely that President Putin would have been stupid enough, and heartless enough, to serve in that role.

But our story does not merely end in the exoneration of President Putin, for a likelier assassin readily presents itself: America's shadow government. That government is either directly involved in Nemtsov's assassination, or used one of its proxies to carry it out (the list of proxies is certainly as long as it is hideous, and includes MI6, Mossad, the Saudi dictatorship, Ukrainian Nazis, Muslim henchmen such as Al Qaeda and ISIS-none of which would have hatched such a plan without the knowledge and sponsorship of the CIA).

So let us begin our indictment by asking: Who could possibly expect to benefit from Nemtsov's assassination? We have seen already that this murder could on balance harm President Putin and his project for Russia. On the other hand, the men in the shadows who constitute the real government of the USA (one of these of men alone, David Rockefeller, has certainly more power, by far, than the combined executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the American government). These bankers, generals, and spooks, are clearly pursuing world domination. For them, Russia is what Carthage was to Rome's Cato the Elder. Russia under Putin's leadership is acting forcefully, fearlessly, and yet moderately in world affairs, and has recently stopped the conquest of Syria and the transformation of Crimea into an American military base.

These shadowy figures clearly want Putin out of the way. If nothing else works, sooner or later they will surely assassinate him, but such a step would involve some unwelcome risks. After all, unlike Chile's Allende, Italy's Moro, Congo's Lumumba, Venezuela's Chavez, Indonesia's Sukarno, America's Franklin Roosevelt, Walter Reuther, at least six members of the Kennedy clan, and thousands of other friends of the people everywhere, Russia has an impressive arsenal of nuclear weapons and delivery vehicles. Given this bloody, incontestable history of assassinations of world leaders, given moreover Russia's nuclear arsenal, is it not likely that the masters of the CIA would try to bring Putin down in a more subtle way?

If the CIA can order their Ukrainian puppets to kill 298 innocent men, women, and children to advance their agenda of world conquest, couldn't they kill their Russian agent Nemtsov to advance that very same agenda?

They would kill 1,000,000,000 Nemtsovs to achieve their goals, without once blinking an eye or suffering a single sleepless night.

So, in my view, the probability that the Russian government is behind the killing of Boris Nemtsov is close to zero, while the probability of involvement of the CIA and its allies and stooges is well over 90%.

The first prediction is this. The captive Western media will go out of their way to demonize Putin and attribute Nemtsov's assassination to him. Day and night we shall be bombarded with stories of the defiant and heroic Nemtsov and the perfidious and murderous Putin. By the time they are done, the average Westerner or Japanese will be almost as familiar with Boris Nemtsov as she had been with Lee Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, Patricia Hearst, or Osama Bin Laden. No real evidence will be presented against Putin, for these villains understand human psychology far better than their opponents-repeat a lie often enough and you would have succeeded in smearing your opponent and justifying your plan of murdering him.

The second prediction is this. The CIA will orchestrate anti-Putin demonstrations the world over. We shall have anti-Putin concocted marches not only in the port city commanded by Wall Street, not only in the river city commanded by the City of London, not only in the ancient city commanded by the Vatican, but everywhere the CIA can stir up trouble. More importantly-and this is one probable reason Nemtsov was killed - there would be demonstrations by traitorous, naïve, ignorant, or misinformed Russians.

If these predictions come true, they would lend further support to the assertion that, most likely, the CIA is behind the assassination of Boris Nemtsov.

North Korean media at its finest. Wait, you mean thats not from North Korea? Oh...

A bit of background from wikipedia:

Pravda (Russian: Правда; IPA: [ˈpravdə] ( listen), "Truth") is a Russian political newspaper associated with the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. The newspaper began publication in 1912 and emerged as a leading newspaper of the Soviet Union after the October Revolution. The newspaper was an organ of the Central Committee of the CPSU between 1912 and 1991.

After the dissolution of the USSR, Pravda was sold off by Russian President Boris Yeltsin. As was the fate of many of the Soviet-era enterprises Pravda suffered a downturn and was sold to a Greek business family. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation acquired the newspaper in 1997 and established it as its principal mouthpiece. Pravda is still functioning from the same headquarters on Pravda Street in Moscow where it was published in the Soviet days. During its heyday Pravda was selling millions of copies per day compared to the current print run of just one hundred thousand copies.[1]

During the Cold War, Pravda was well known in the West for its pronouncements as the official voice of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. (Similarly Izvestia was the official voice of the Soviet government.)

"Hello Barack! Why did you shoot Nemtsov?"

Artist: Marian Kamensky

Edited February 28, 2015 by beastcat

[astral4eg 10]

All clear !! :D

[sudayev 27]

Putin ordered Russia's top law enforcement chiefs to personally oversee the investigation of Nemtsov's killing.

"Putin noted that this cruel murder has all the makings of a contract hit and is extremely provocative," presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said in remarks carried by Russian news agencies.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/prominent-russian-opposition-figure-boris-nemtsov-shot-dead-29284003

I bet they will find out that it was a common robbery made by some Ukrainians and later on they will forge it into a large scale anti-Russian provocation led by the enemies of Russia. Not the first time when Putin declares to be a good sheriff and to play the role all for his own agenda, a true Machiavellist. He reminds me of an arsonist who calls the emergency service right after setting the forest ablaze.

[chrisb 196]

Western security agencies..! just a thought. The worlds a mad place, it could frankly be anybody..:j:

[maturin 12]

I'm really surprised how quickly main 'free' media and opposition members spread this news across the world...

Wow. Your desperation is showing. That's what passes for reasoning in that head of your these days? The proof of foul play is that the media used their TELEPHONES and their INTERNET to write the news as it happened? Too fast? My god. Please take a second, stand back and take a look at the absurd lengths your mind is going to, just in order to avoid living in reality.

So the western media were all warned through secret channels that Right Sector was going to kill Nemtsov, and prepared their articles in advance. Then the instant the trigger was pulled, BBC and the Guardian and Fox News and Kiev Post all received the go-ahead from their masters so that the obituaries could be published instantly. And this is proof of the provocation. This is exactly what you just said.

But I understand your confusion to a certain extent. You cannot, will not believe that any media outlet would publish an article without letting their government overseers look it over first. BBC wouldn't have had time to fax the article to Psaki! Unless she wrote it for them ahead of time. Aha!

Western security agencies..

Because when you have a weak, disorganized movement, the best way to make it stronger is to kill one of the only leaders, making the rank-and-file fear that they are next. Right.

Because Western security agencies are morons, constantly using terrorist violence to make sure their interests are never achieved.

[chrisb 196]

Wow. Your desperation is showing. That's what passes for reasoning in that head of your these days? The proof of foul play is that the media used their TELEPHONES and their INTERNET to write the news as it happened? Too fast? My god. Please take a second, stand back and take a look at the absurd lengths your mind is going to, just in order to avoid living in reality.

So the western media were all warned through secret channels that Right Sector was going to kill Nemtsov, and prepared their articles in advance. Then the instant the trigger was pulled, BBC and the Guardian and Fox News and Kiev Post all received the go-ahead from their masters so that the obituaries could be published instantly. And this is proof of the provocation. This is exactly what you just said.

But I understand your confusion to a certain extent. You cannot, will not believe that any media outlet would publish an article without letting their government overseers look it over first. BBC wouldn't have had time to fax the article to Psaki! Unless she wrote it for them ahead of time. Aha!

Because when you have a weak, disorganized movement, the best way to make it stronger is to kill one of the only leaders, making the rank-and-file fear that they are next. Right.

Because Western security agencies are morons, constantly using terrorist violence to make sure their interests are never achieved.

:rolleyes: of course that's your view. Everyone has a view and will look at things that happen, all around the world, in different ways, sometimes very different ways, doesn't make them wrong or right, its just their view.

Make your view, but don't attack someone else for theirs. That's what many, around the world, are doing right now.

[krycek 349]

Hey guys it wasn't Putin,his (independent:z: ) media will probably going to blame it on evildoer Poroshenko and his army of space nazies(them or Illuminati).Because Putin's a harmless KGB butterfly,it's not like these type of accidents happened before to his opposition or those pesky journalists not praising putinism.

[spooky lynx 73]

Wow.

Well have you had read anything about recent massive suicides of Ukrainian deputies and officials belonged to "Party of regions"? I suppose you did not.

I'm not so naive to believe that it is coincidence when at once many large news outlets make similar stories published just after story happened. Especially if there was no western journalist nearby. When the witnesses were only average Moscow citizens it must take more time to get the exact info (not something like "a male person was killed at the center of Moscow, no others were wounded"). Not 4 minutes. Maybe Sub-Human was there at that moment but then he has just steel balls if just after someone was shot nearby he was able to post at this forums about it.

[oxmox 73]

Putin´s popularity is currently at around 80%, sounds like a political suicide if that murder was done by the Kremlin. But that doesnt mean such a possibility is excluded.

Maybe there will be more background infos after the media vent their spleen about Putin, which was expected.

Edited February 28, 2015 by oxmox

[Sub-Human 10]

Putin´s popularity is currently at around 80%, sounds like a political suicide if that murder was done by the Kremlin. But that doesnt mean such a possibility is excluded.

Maybe there will be more background infos after the media vent their spleen about Putin, which was expected.

What political suicide? Kiselev-TV will just say it is Western mercenaries, as our friend Spooky Lynx already believes. Or Ukrainian nationalists.

And the people who truly believe this, are in my opinion are a part of the murder as much as Putin and the thugs he hired.

I'm not so naive to believe that it is coincidence when at once many large news outlets make similar stories published just after story happened. Especially if there was no western journalist nearby. When the witnesses were only average Moscow citizens it must take more time to get the exact info (not something like "a male person was killed at the center of Moscow, no others were wounded"). Not 4 minutes. Maybe Sub-Human was there at that moment but then he has just steel balls if just after someone was shot nearby he was able to post at this forums about it.

I will explain to you, as your brain seems to be struggling with a couple very simple facts (nothing new coming from a vata):

First news of Nemtsov's death comes in Russian networks around 30 minutes after he was shot.

Immediately social networkers (which is where I got it from) start spreading links.

Western newsites make first articles with information from Twitter, Facebook...

Then they make full reports.

Is there conspiracy in this too? Idiot?

Edited February 28, 2015 by Sub-Human

[oxmox 73]

What political suicide?

Just look how the international media reacts and that is of course expected if such a tragedy happens.

To kill someone from the opposition, during the time of the Ukraine conflict and already international critics plus the medial war against Putin, directly in front of the Kremlin. All in the time when Putin has an all time high of popularity.

If this would be not a political suicde, what else ?

But, like I said that doesnt mean such a possibility is excluded. There will be maybe more backgroud infos about this case, what people claim or believe is not so interesting but rather how will react Russia and Putin to this case.

Edited February 28, 2015 by oxmox

[Sub-Human 10]

Just look how the international media reacts and that is of course expected if such a tragedy happens.

Since when does Putin care about international media?

[oxmox 73]

Since when does Putin care about international media?

Since when are you interested in politics ? sorry absurd question.

[Sub-Human 10]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV8xqrWaqUQ

This was in 2002.

This was a year ago.

Putin suddenly consults BBC and CNN before he makes his decision?

[guyfawkestom 60]

For once, I believe there is the possibility that Putin is not -directly- behind that (or to be clear, did not commissioned). Nemtsov was not a treat to him, he was perhaps an outstanding voice, but could not pose as a leader of the democratic forces in Russia. I would be more suspicious about Ultra-nationalists (yes, there are actually worst people than Putin)that seem to be out of Kremlin control and were deeply involved in crimea and Eastern Ukraine invasion and occupation. Perhaps Putin gave Nemtsov to Ultra-nationalists like a bone to a dog. Navalny is a bigger threat to Putin thean Nemtsov was.

But I am now amazed to see another opportunity for the RT to explain a new conspiracy theory from unholy, promiscuous, sneaky and evil Western world with the only objective to destroy the glorious Russia "Rodina" and noneless glorious allies such as for instance Bachar Al-assad.

Regarding the 80% Popularity...How are the poll conducted? I mean in a country were insolent journalists like Anna Politovskaia have a very limited lifespan and opponents send to jail and atheists sent to gulag.

If I was living there I would say that I adore Vladimir the great and even Brusell sprouts!