Truck and Trailer - Arma 3 - Standalone Released (22.10.2015)

[dscha 147]

*UPDATE - 22.10.2015 (or: 10/22/15)*

Okay, finaly i found some time, to make a Standalone Version of that wobblewobblething (aka Truck and Trailer):

 

1st of all: Keep in mind, that the Truck and Trailer are just a Test-Objects! There are Textures missing, Wheels are not 100% perfect, etc. blabla. But for most of you guys, it should be enough to play around with and get the Idea, how it works and what i did.

Sadly, the Ropes still don't react as wished (Bungeeeeeeeeeeeee).

+Also: with the following, they react different (better)

cursorTarget setMass ((getMass cursorTarget)*2)

Download directly from the Distrikt41-DL Server

Download: packed Addon + bisign + Key

AND, since i am a friend of "Share your Knowledge", take that:

Download: Truck + Trailer MLOD

Do what you wan't with the MLODs, just be so kind and leave the Names in it ;)

Oh, just for Info: When it comes to Donation BS: I don't want my Scripts/Models on any Server with a Donationsystem on it!

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Greetz Dscha

 

Alternative Download Links:

Release frontpaged on the Armaholic homepage.

 

Truck and Trailer - Standalone v0.1 beta

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P.S. The get the Container onTop:

cursortarget animate ["HideCargo",-1];

-1 = show

0 = hide

(Don't ask me, why i used -1. I like to confuse ppl :))

 

 

To get the HEMTT Detach Option on a HEMTT add this, to the Player Init in the  missions*:

this addAction ["Detach Trailer",{ {ropeDestroy (ropes cursorTarget select 0)}forEach(ropes cursorTarget); },"",1000,true,true,"","(count(ropeAttachedObjects cursorTarget) != 0)"];

Or (when a HEMTT Mover is placed on the Map) simply add it to an existing HEMTT

 

 

this addAction ["Detach Trailer",{ {ropeDestroy (ropes this select 0)}forEach(ropes this); },"",1000,true,true,"","(count(ropeAttachedObjects this) != 0)"];

 

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Please support the Ticket to set the min. length of ropes to 0.1 (current 0.5). so it's hopefully a chance to get the Trailer, at least a bit, working)

http://feedback.arma3.com/view.php?id=22861

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First of all:

- Yeah, it looks crappy.

- Yeah, the wheels don't move.

- Yeah, there are ropes.

- Yeah, it looks crappy.

- Yeah, it's just a test.

- Yeah, i was bored.

- It's mainly for testing around

TEST #1

Since the fabulous autoparkingbreak, its almost unasable to tow Vehicles with others (might know as good as everyone).

Any other Ideas, how it can be done?

Current state:

- Trailer is an ordinary Object

- Weight definition inside the Model is highly important (heaviest point at the lowest rear point (150) - rest is almost everywhere 1-10)

- Since it's an object: Wheels dont move (getSpeed -> anim a wheel? meh...)

@BIS

Is there anything planed, to finaly impliment the Pivot Points?

I mean, its already implimented in VBS2 (since about 5-6-7-xxx Years?).

Time: 3:39

I just remembered, when we talked while playing on Nogova about walking/shooting from Vehicles, that is was already inserted in VBS1, then, about 10 Years later, it finaly came.

Could it be the same with Attaching Vehicles (2020 then)?

So long

TEST #2

Looks way better, but still... the ropes -.-

(+ Wheels moving)

TEST #3 (AI Compability)

Looks fine to me.

(except that bungee-behavior )

TEST #4 (New Model/Weights)

+ Reverse

From Closed Beta

Video from MultiSasch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIm6SurxjVw

 

 

Latest Test:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wou9tu7h-Gw

[Tisor 17]

As always, if you wont pivot points, then pay for it... months asking for this feature, but looks like will never come... So sad that games like GTA V or similar have it and Arma 3, a simulator, cannot have this... Is so sad. We are very limited for making this "not war". The truck and trailers for logistics convoys, recoverys and so on can give Arma 3 a nice boost for those looking for simulation.

[chortles 263]

@BIS

Is there anything planed, to finaly impliment the Pivot Points?

I mean, its already implimented in VBS2 (since about 5-6-7-xxx Years?).

I just remembered, when we talked while playing on Nogova about walking/shooting from Vehicles, that is was already inserted in VBS1, then, about 10 Years later, it finaly came.

Could it be the same with Attaching Vehicles (2020 then)?

Oh no you're gonna bring the wrath of Dwarden on us all! :16_6_8:

Seriously though, being in VBS (its own fork of the engine) is no indication of how much something can be pulled off in Arma as an engine-supported thing that meets the devs' satisfaction (i.e. in performance) versus a scripted workaround that a VBS customer accepted.

As always, if you wont pivot points, then pay for it...

Funny thing is, this is closer to how VBS development works than you intended... for example, the snow implementation in VBS3 "only exists in VBS because the Swedes helped pay for it", while the Australian military got exclusive access in v3.4 to upgraded Tiger ARH simulation that other customers had to wait on v3.6.

Oh, and BI runs away from the word "simulator" these days so don't bother with that comparison either.

[dscha 147]

Oh no you're gonna bring the wrath of Dwarden on us all! :16_6_8:

Come and get me Dwarden

hmm, my last standing (long long time ago) that it's nearly the same (for example Scripting). oO

[keeway 287]

First of all:

- Yeah, it looks crappy.

- Yeah, the wheels don't move.

- Yeah, there are ropes.

- Yeah, it looks crappy.

- Yeah, it's just a test.

- Yeah, i was bored.

- It's mainly for testing around

Still better than bohemia, because you are trying to do something in this direction. Thanks for your efforts and keep up good work :)

[dscha 147]

Test #2 done - OP updated.

Changes:

Runs much smoother, since it's a "real Vehicle" now.

I wish there would be an option, to strict (right word? idk) the max. length of the rope -.- (incl. Bungeeeffect)

Edited February 19, 2015 by Eggi

[Delta Hawk 1829]

Bis more than likely already has working tractor trailers but can't get the ai to drive them properly so they're not enabling thier use in game.

Edited March 23, 2015 by Delta Hawk

[ice_age0815 37]

back in the OFP day some one made it work so long you did not drove over a bridge if what fine

[dscha 147]

Yeah, with getVelocity, SetVelocity, getPos, setPos, getDir etc. (Extrem hardwarehungry and not realy possible in MP)

Kinda the same thing, we did with the AEF-Train back in the OFP Days.

[HorribleGoat 1473]

Have you happened to run into the geometry pin and hole method that I believe should still work?

This is the video I first saw and found inspiration to try it out in A2

Our MCV is two vehicles joined with geometry and the tractor pulls it pretty well. Have not had the chance to port it to A3 yet and try it with PhysX, but it might still work.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/cc-tiberian-era/videos/arma2-mcv-test#imagebox

AI drives it really badly off road though as it can't account the trailer.. On road it manages a bit better but not well enough.

[HMJ_Mayor 10]

Using roadway in truck and landcontact point in the trailer. Probably yo can reduce the pitch of the trailer.

[dscha 147]

hmmm......

roadway...

I got an Idea.

[Darkhorse 1-6 16]

Have you happened to run into the geometry pin and hole method that I believe should still work?

The problem with that was that once the vehicles were X distance away from the player, they ceased to have geolods and the trailer dropped off the truck. Which made it completely unusable for AI purposes, and is why it was dropped by most of the people investigating it when they could not find a way around the issue.

[HorribleGoat 1473]

The problem with that was that once the vehicles were X distance away from the player, they ceased to have geolods and the trailer dropped off the truck. Which made it completely unusable for AI purposes, and is why it was dropped by most of the people investigating it when they could not find a way around the issue.

Oh yeah that. :D Had forgotten about that.. It was pretty hilarious to see.

[dscha 147]

bungeeropes = pain in the A**...

But, when it stop wobblewobble = Looks good.

I may upload a video in the next few days. Needs some testing in MP first.

[dscha 147]

Even the AI got no real problem with it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q4rZwvhZqI]

@BIS Pls! Add a non-Bungeerope (or at least higher the force, so it's dragged faster to the "normal state/length" =/)

*OP Updated

[HMJ_Mayor 10]

Even the AI got no real problem with it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q4rZwvhZqI]

@BIS Pls! Add a non-Bungeerope (or at least higher the force, so it's dragged faster to the "normal state/length" =/)

*OP Updated

I dont know, about this, but the bungee probably is controlled by hookes law. If you can reduce rope lenght to about 1cm, bungee will be little and probably you cant see it.

[dscha 147]

min. lenght is 0.5m/50cm, thats the problem.

[R0adki11 3949]

min. lenght is 0.5m/50cm, thats the problem.

In that case, perhaps log a request of the Arma3 Feedback Tracker

[dscha 147]

Let's give it a try =/

http://feedback.arma3.com/view.php?id=22861

[chompster 29]

Let's give it a try =/

http://feedback.arma3.com/view.php?id=22861

I'd also suggest putting it as your signature, so people can see it wherever you post.

[Tankbuster 1744]

Does it work any better if you have multiple half meter ropes instead of one?

[dscha 147]

Not realy =/

[HMJ_Mayor 10]

Any progress to do this possible?

[dscha 147]

It's possible, like in Video #3. So too much Bungeerope-effect, as long as BIS don't change something =/

We are testing the current State on our Server in about 2-3 Weeks.

Edited March 6, 2015 by Eggi