froggyluv 2136 Posted June 24, 2014 Had a huge city firefight with smoke everywhere, and guys where getting hit laying against buildings etc near actual dead bodies - you never knew who was dead or who was just hurt and might just get back up. S**t was intense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miketim 20 Posted June 24, 2014 Hey zooloo, if I get this mod and run it while playing coop with my friends on vanilla ArmA 3, and they don't have this mod, will it still work? I assume it is just scripts, so I can run it "server-side" (even though its really just a game hosted on my comp) right? Or no? Maybe I am incorrect, but I would like to know this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zooloo75 834 Posted June 24, 2014 Hey zooloo, if I get this mod and run it while playing coop with my friends on vanilla ArmA 3, and they don't have this mod, will it still work?I assume it is just scripts, so I can run it "server-side" (even though its really just a game hosted on my comp) right? Or no? Maybe I am incorrect, but I would like to know this. It is not MP-Compatible, only the host will see the effects. You can however take the code from the PBO and plop it into your mission with a little editing and it should work for everyone. ---------- Post added at 04:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:29 PM ---------- Had a huge city firefight with smoke everywhere, and guys where getting hit laying against buildings etc near actual dead bodies - you never knew who was dead or who was just hurt and might just get back up. S**t was intense. I see dead peop... Oh S%!T he's not dead!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wipman 1 Posted June 24, 2014 Would be great to see a video of what this mod does on the units. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fa11en 10 Posted June 24, 2014 Would be great to see a video of what this mod does on the units. I second this! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sorophx 25 Posted June 24, 2014 Would be great to see a video of what this mod does on the units. ask and ye shall receive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old_painless 183 Posted June 24, 2014 Heh, a bit gruesome, but awesome to see how dropped units can get back up. Excellent .... -OP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zooloo75 834 Posted June 24, 2014 ask and ye shall receive Great :) Can I use this on the main post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zooloo75 834 Posted June 24, 2014 of course Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sorophx 25 Posted June 24, 2014 don't mention it, I should be thanking you for your modding work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asuseroako 17 Posted June 25, 2014 You're welcome, and hopefully you get it working :) Here is my demo video conducted at Stratis Airfield. Weapon used was a Vermin (caliber .45) in semi, burst, and full-auto. The shadows are noticeable but still I like the effect when units get thrown with each collision. Ragdoll'd! :cool: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zooloo75 834 Posted June 25, 2014 Here is my demo video conducted at Stratis Airfield. Weapon used was a Vermin (caliber .45) in semi, burst, and full-auto. The shadows are noticeable but still I like the effect when units get thrown with each collision. Ragdoll'd! :cool: Great video, I'm going to have to put it on the main post when I get on my computer later! Sent from my HTC One V using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3lackrose 10 Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) Thank you for this mod.. i hoped for a long time to see something like this in Arma 3. Just testing it and it is amazing.. both AI and player are affected by it, i see people getting shot at, falling and then gettin up again after thinking they were dead. An helicopter exploded close to me and the blast made me flew on the ground.. i thought i was dead and after getting up i was just slightly injured.. wow! Now this is something that will give a nice change in gameplay if it works in multiplayer.. Edited June 25, 2014 by 3lackrose Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asuseroako 17 Posted June 25, 2014 Great video, I'm going to have to put it on the main post when I get on my computer later! Thank you! :cool: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lordprimate 159 Posted June 25, 2014 Zooloo75, I did some tests with the velocity(because in my confounded opinion they flew to far when they ragdoll'd). You have it set at a Mutiple of 10. I reduced it to 3. The distance the units fly when in ragdoll is much more reasonable. A value of two was too low. line 24 FROM:: _o setVelocity [(sin(_dir)) * 10, (cos(_dir)) * 10, 0]; TO:: _o setVelocity [(sin(_dir)) * 3, (cos(_dir)) * 3, 0]; Give it a try and let me know what you think.?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zooloo75 834 Posted June 25, 2014 Zooloo75, I did some tests with the velocity(because in my confounded opinion they flew to far when they ragdoll'd). You have it set at a Mutiple of 10. I reduced it to 3. The distance the units fly when in ragdoll is much more reasonable. A value of two was too low. line 24 FROM:: _o setVelocity [(sin(_dir)) * 10, (cos(_dir)) * 10, 0]; TO:: _o setVelocity [(sin(_dir)) * 3, (cos(_dir)) * 3, 0]; Give it a try and let me know what you think.?!? Fantastic, I wasn't aware that the lower velocities were able to trigger the ragdolling. Will test when I get home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wipman 1 Posted June 25, 2014 I preffer the default behaviour of the units that get shot, for those videos... they look like as hitted by a 23mm or an RPG; but thanks for videos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lordprimate 159 Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) yea i tested down to two(8,4,2,3). i went to three and it worked again. With further testing at 3 i have noticed it doesnt trigger ragdoll %100. However, honestly it was a pleasant surprise, the random non ragdoll.. So I guess if you want your mod to produce %100 ragdoll every time then 4 may be the way to go. and the second thing to note is that if your in CQC, and seriously close to enemy, you can also be injured by the way this mod ragdolls units. Edited June 25, 2014 by Lordprimate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zooloo75 834 Posted June 25, 2014 yea i tested down to two(8,4,2,3). i went to three and it worked again. With further testing at 3 i have noticed it doesnt trigger ragdoll %100. However, honestly it was a pleasant surprise, the random non ragdoll.. So I guess if you want your mod to produce %100 ragdoll every time then 4 may be the way to go.and the second thing to note is that if your in CQC, and seriously close to enemy, you can also be injured by the way this mod ragdolls units. Thanks for your observation and testing, I'll test those values when I get home and apply the changes for an update if satiable. I do plan on having the force dynamic based on the projectile or explosion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miketim 20 Posted June 25, 2014 Zooloo, you said I could use this in a mission to use it in MP. is it as simple as extracting the pbo, then putting somthing in an init file? Could you give me some simple directions, I would like to test if it would work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zooloo75 834 Posted June 25, 2014 @LordPrimate - 4 seems to be great! Will throw the update on Dropbox in a few mins! ---------- Post added at 09:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:48 PM ---------- Update released! Ragdoll value tweaked for increased realism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asuseroako 17 Posted June 26, 2014 Hi zooloo75, Thank you for your continuous development on the addon. :) Below is a video showing some tests of the ragdoll addon. I used the latest version that you have just uploaded to Dropbox. My question: Is the ragdolling affected by elevation and surface where the target unit is located on the map? Reason for asking is because of the following observations as you will also see in the video: 1st location: Stratis Air Base runway Terrain: Smooth surface, not elevated Result: Ragdolling evident. Target units get thrown once shot at (I like it!) 2nd location: Agios Ioannas Terrain: Surface not smooth, elevated compared to the runway Rseult: Ragdolling not evident. Target units don't get thrown once shot at (why?) 3rd location: Stratis Air Base runway Terrain: Smooth surface, not elevated Result: Ragdolling evident. Target units get thrown once shot at (nice!) 4th location: Stratis Air Base Terrain: Rugged surface, not as flat as the runway, not elevated Result: Ragdolling evident. Target units get thrown once shot at (nice!) 5th location: Agios Cephas Terrain: Surface not smooth as the runway, elevated Rseult: Ragdolling not evident. Target units don't get thrown once shot at (why?) On all test locations, I used the same target units, shot targets on the same leg spot using the same weapon but from the results, ragdolling is not evident while on Agios Ioannas and Agios Cephas as it is on Stratis Airbase. Anyone want to replicate this on their machine? I remember doing a video about Ragdoll'd and it was on Agios Ioanas. The result, you didn't see any ragdolling effect from your mod. Thanks for your time reading this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lordprimate 159 Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) i can confirm this behavior... hmm at sea level it works fine once you start to get to higher heights. stopps working EDIT:: Did some testing and it seems somewhere between 50-70 m in height (based off of the topography lines on the map), above that the ragdoll effect doesnt seem to affect ai. But it still effects the players. And if you stand close to them when you shoot youll be knocked down and they will not (though they'll still flynch). Edited June 26, 2014 by Lordprimate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zooloo75 834 Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) Hmm, that is odd. I'll look into this when I get home tonight. Thanks for investigating, asuseroako. Elevation is not intended to affect the behavior of the effect. Hopefully it's just me using the wrong positioning command. Edited June 26, 2014 by zooloo75 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites