Syria - What should we do if anything?

[sudayev 27]

Russian heavy bombers Tu22, Tu95 & Tu160 conducting bombardment of targets in Syria

 

 

No mercy

[oxmox 73]

Rebels from the U.S.-backed Free Syrian Army firing a U.S.-supplied anti-tank guided missile at what it is clearly a U.S.-made Humvee

This video shows the absurdity of the war in Syria (WP, Nov 17)

 

The above video, reportedly recorded outside of Aleppo, Syria and posted online Tuesday, features rebels from the U.S.-backed Free Syrian Army firing a U.S.-supplied anti-tank guided missile at what it is clearly a U.S.-made Humvee.

 

It is unclear if the U.S. Humvee is one that the Islamic State might have captured from Iraqi security forces during its blitz across parts of northern Iraq last year, or if it’s from U.S.-supplied Iraqi militias who have since entered Syria to prop up President Bashar al-Assad’s fledging forces. But one thing is for certain: that truck was built in the U.S.A.

 

Video & News Report:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/11/17/this-video-shows-the-absurdity-of-the-war-in-syria-in-one-single-blown-up-humvee/?wpmm=1&wpisrc=nl_daily202

[sudayev 27]

Recent interview with president Assad

 

http://sana.sy/en/?p=61860

[sudayev 27]

Now this is good...

 

Bombing of IS controlled petrol industry

 

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151118/1030342846/su-34-oil-isil-infrastructure.html(videos inside!)

 

 

 

#SYRIA

For several days Russian aviation has eliminated approx.500 fuel trucks significantly reducing terrorists’ illegal oil export income

— ÐœÐ¸Ð½Ð¾Ð±Ð¾Ñ€Ð¾Ð½Ñ‹ РоÑÑии (@mod_russia)

18 ноÑÐ±Ñ€Ñ 2015

According to Kartapolov, Russian attack aircraft have started an "open season" on terrorists' fuel trucks carrying oil products.

 

 

 

 

An airplane image showing how one of such fuel-convoys looks like ! More than 200 trucks in this convoy!

 

THIS IS INSANE and according to Russian intel they have been doing this since many months making billions of dollars every month on pushing the petrol to buyers in Turkey. I wonder the US allowed ISIS to benefit from illegal oil trade for that long? According to TASS - Ru.AF bombers destroyed 15 IS fuel depots and almost 500 trucks in two days.

 

 

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N4tmwYHbCU

[sudayev 27]

Fire rains on islamists in Idlib. Russian phosphorous strike. 

 

[oxmox 73]

Now this is good...

 

Bombing of IS controlled petrol industry

 

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151118/1030342846/su-34-oil-isil-infrastructure.html(videos inside!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

An airplane image showing how one of such fuel-convoys looks like ! More than 200 trucks in this convoy!

 

THIS IS INSANE and according to Russian intel they have been doing this since many months making billions of dollars every month on pushing the petrol to buyers in Turkey. I wonder the US allowed ISIS to benefit from illegal oil trade for that long? According to TASS - Ru.AF bombers destroyed 15 IS fuel depots and almost 500 trucks in two days.

 

 

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Infos about this was posted only one page before...

 

 

U.S. Warplanes Strike ISIS Oil Trucks in Syria (NYT; Nov 16)

 

Intensifying pressure on the Islamic State, United States warplanes for the first time attacked hundreds of trucks on Monday that the extremist group has been using to smuggle the crude oil it has been producing in Syria, American officials said.

 

Until Monday, the United States refrained from striking the fleet used to transport oil, believed to include more than 1,000 tanker trucks, because of concerns about causing civilian casualties. As a result, the Islamic State’s distribution system for exporting oil had remained largely intact.

 

 

According to an initial assessment, 116 trucks were destroyed in the attack, which took place near Deir al-Zour, an area in eastern Syria that is controlled by the Islamic State.

American officials have long been frustrated by the ability of the Islamic State to generate tens of million of dollars a month by producing and exporting oil.

 

To disrupt that revenue source, American officials said last week that the United States had sharply stepped up its airstrikes against infrastructure that allows the Islamic State to pump oil in Syria.

 

To reduce the risk of harming civilians, two F-15 warplanes dropped leaflets about an hour before the attack warning drivers to abandon their vehicles, and strafing runs were conducted to reinforce the message.

 

The area where the trucks assemble in Syria has been closely monitored by reconnaissance drones. As many as 1,000 trucks have been observed there, waiting to receive their cargo of illicit oil.

 

The strike came just days after Kurdish and Yazidi fighters, backed by American airstrikes, cut an important road, Highway 47, that the Islamic State has used to move supplies and fighters between Syria and Mosul, Iraq’s second-largest city, which was captured by the militant group last year.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/17/world/middleeast/us-strikes-syria-oil.html?_r=0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@ Why did they wait more than a year with taking out the supply route of the Islamic State.

    What about the money transfers, why cant banks not stop it ?

 

 

 

So who arms these guys, who buys their oil?? where does the supply line lead? they are not terrorists but a professional proxy army, proxy to whom?

 

 

The Guardian did report last year about IS Oil routes from Syria.

 

The Guardian Report (Nov. 2014):

 

Coalition air strikes have not stopped the militant group from earning millions of dollars a week from its Iraqi oil operations

 

Islamic State has consolidated its grip on oil supplies in Iraq and now presides over a sophisticated smuggling empire with illegal exports going to Turkey, Jordan and Iran, according to smugglers and Iraqi officials.

 

Coalition air strikes against tankers and refineries controlled by Isis have merely dented – rather than halted – these exports, it adds.

 

From early July until late October, most of this oil went to Iraqi Kurdistan. The self-proclaimed Islamic caliphate sold oil to Kurdish traders at a major discount. From Kurdistan, the oil was resold to Turkish and Iranian traders. These profits helped Isis pay its burgeoning wages bill: $500 (£320) a month for a fighter, and about $1,200 for a military commander.

 

But oil is still finding its way to Turkey via Syria, with Islamic State deftly switching from one market to another, smugglers say, with cheap crude channelled to Jordan instead.

 

On Monday, a UN panel urged countries neighbouring Iraq and Syria to seize oil trucks that continue to flow out from jihadist-occupied territory.

 

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/19/-sp-islamic-state-oil-empire-iraq-isis

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Intensifying pressure on the Islamic State, United States warplanes for the first time attacked hundreds of trucks on Monday that the extremist group has been using to smuggle the crude oil it has been producing in Syria, American officials said.

 

 

And what was earlier - only a mockery. Putin shows the world how a war against the muslim terrorists should be waged and because of that the US have decided to step up a bit.

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ISIS fuel convoy hit by Russian airstrike

[spooky lynx 73]

AFAIK that's the photo of fuel convoy destroyed by Taliban (trucks were hired by ISAF).

[negah 26]

http://www.n24.de/n24/Nachrichten/Politik/d/7680554/bundeswehr-schickt-aufklaerungsjets-nach-syrien.html

 

Apparently the German govt has decided to send recon planes to Syria.

They're also considering about satellite recon and sending ships.

[spooky lynx 73]

http://www.rg.ru/2015/11/26/voennie-site-anons.html

According to article, US SF troops arrived in Kobani, Syria. Is it true?

 

 

Apparently the German govt has decided to send recon planes to Syria.

Did they get the permission from Syrian govt or some UN resolution?

[ProfTournesol 956]

According to article, US SF troops arrived in Kobani, Syria. Is it true?

Kurdish troops are backed by US SF to guide close air support.

[negah 26]

 

Did they get the permission from Syrian govt or some UN resolution?

 

Our foreign minister was refering to the UN resolution after Paris attacks about "fighting the terrorists with all possible means", since Germany lacks a concrete UN mandate as of now.

I understand Russia is the only one who is legally present in Syria. But as long as all contries play along nicely and dont try to backstab each other like Turkey did,

some more planes will help the common goal of destroying ISIS, even if they will provide reconnaissance only.

Unless of course all the air forces fail to cooridnate and more fuck ups will follow, but lets hope it wont be the case.

[oxmox 73]

US accuses Syria of buying oil from Isis (IBT, Nov 25)

US Sanctions Syrian Businessman For Acting As 'Middleman' In Transactions

The U.S. Treasury Department sanctioned a Syrian businessman Wednesday. Officials say he “served as a middleman†for the Syrian government’s oil purchases from the Islamic State group, Reuters reported.

 

U.S. officials have long been vocal with concerns that Syrian President Bashar Assad was boosting the Islamic State group’s finances by buying oil on territory that was previously controlled by the Syrian government in Damascus. But the U.S. government’s sanctions Wednesday were the first to be imposed on Syria’s oil trade.

 

In the U.S. government’s latest effort to cut off funding for the group, which claimed responsibility for the terror attacks in Paris earlier this month, the Treasury Department said it also sanctioned three other individuals and their affiliated businesses, including the Russian Financial Alliance Bank, for allegedly helping Syria’s central bank evade international sanctions.

 

“The United States will continue targeting the finances of those enabling Assad to continue inflicting violence on the Syrian people,â€

 

He told Reuters at the time that the EU had no evidence of the oil purchases and suggested it search for intermediaries smuggling oil to Turkey on behalf of the Islamic State group.

 

The U.S. has been looking for ways to hit ISIS’ finances, launching a campaign of airstrikes last month called “Tidal Wave II†on the group’s oil facilities in Syria.

 

 

http://www.ibtimes.com/syria-buying-oil-isis-us-sanctions-syrian-businessman-acting-middleman-transactions-2200675

 

 

 

 

 

 

ErdoÄŸan: Turkey only buys oil from officially known sources (Daily Sabah, Nov 26)

President Recep Tayyip ErdoÄŸan on Thursday harshly criticized those accusing Turkey of buying oil from Daesh,

and called them to prove their 'baseless' claims.

 

"Turkey buys its gas and oil from Russia, Iran, Azerbaijan and Northern Iraq, as well as LNG from Algeria and Qatar," ErdoÄŸan said in response to some Russian officials claiming that Turkey buys oil from Daesh.

 

He noted that it is the Assad regime which buys oil from Daesh: "Daesh sells the oil they drill to Assad, whom you (Russia) support" he said.

 

 

Erdoğan underscored that Turkey has suffered the most damage from terrorism and puts forth the biggest fight against Daesh, noting that it was first recognized as a terrorist group in 2005. He said that various Turkish cities, including Niğde, Ankara, Diyarbakır and Gaziantep have been targeted by Daesh, while noting that a total of 140 Turkish citizens and seven security personnel have lost their lives due to terrorist attacks by Daesh.

 

 

http://www.dailysabah.com/politics/2015/11/26/erdogan-turkey-only-buys-oil-from-officially-known-sources

 

 

 

 

 

Is Vladimir Putin right to label Turkey ‘accomplices of terrorists’? (The Guardian, Nov 24)

The relationship hinted at by Russian leader after warplane was shot down is a complex one,

and includes links between senior Isis figures and Turkish officials

 

 

 

Since the earliest months of the Syrian war, Turkey has had more direct involvement and more at stake than any of the regional states lined up against Bashar al-Assad. Turkish borders have been the primary thoroughfare for fighters of all kinds to enter Syria. Its military bases have been used to distribute weapons and to train rebel fighters. And its frontier towns and villages have taken in almost one million refugees.

 

Turkey’s international airports have also been busy. Many, if not most, of the estimated 15,000-20,000 foreign fighters to have joined Islamic State (Isis) have first flown into Istanbul or Adana, or arrived by ferry along its Mediterranean coast.

 

The influx has offered fertile ground to allies of Assad who, well before a Turkish jet shot down a Russian fighter on Tuesday, had claimed Turkey had enabled or even supported Isis. Vladimir Putin’s reference to Turkey as “accomplices of terrorists†is likely to resonate even among some of Ankara’s backers.

 

 

From midway through 2012, when jihadis started to travel to Syria, their presence was apparent at all points of the journey to the border: at Istanbul airport, in the southern cities of Hatay and Gaziantep – both of which were staging points – and in the border villages. Foreigners on their way to fight remained fixtures on these routes until late in 2014 when, after continued pressure from the EU states and the US, coordinated efforts were made to turn them back.

 

By then, Isis had become a dominant presence in parts of north and east Syria.

 

 

Despite that, links to some aspects of Isis continued to develop. Turkish businessmen struck lucrative deals with Isis oil smugglers, adding at least $10m (£6.6m) per week to the terror group’s coffers, and replacing the Syrian regime as its main client.

 

-> Over the past two years several senior Isis members have told the Guardian that Turkey preferred to stay out of their way and rarely tackled them directly.

 

 

 

.....in May this year after a US special Force Raid in eastern Syria, which killed the Isis official responsible for the oil trade, Abu Sayyaf.

A trawl through Sayyaf’s compound uncovered hard drives that detailed connections between senior Isis figures and some Turkish officials.

 

Senior Turkish officials have openly stated that the Kurds – the main US ally in Syria – pose more of a threat than Isis to Turkey’s national interests.

Yet, through it all, Turkey, a Nato member, continues to be regarded as an ally by Europe.

 

 

--> The US and Britain have become far less enamoured, but are unwilling to do much about it.

 

 

“Turkey thought they could control it all,†said one senior western official. “But it got out of their hands. It has come back to bite them in the heart of Ankara [a double suicide bombing in October that was claimed by Isis] and it will haunt them for a long time.â€

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/24/vladimir-putin-turkey-isis-terrorists-warplane-analysis

[pulstar 55]

Of course they buy oil from the Isisies..It's free market terror over there :D (proving that capitalism works for everyone! hahaha)

[d_lukin 16]

like a Wargame from eugen systems

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLdXKEzvEaM

 

 

on 1:06 RPG flew close

 

on 2:25 cannon hit house

[oxmox 73]

double

[oxmox 73]

like a Wargame from eugen systems

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLdXKEzvEaM

 

 

on 1:06 RPG flew close

 

on 2:25 cannon hit houseq

 

quiete a quick brake through...

[Dwarden 1125]

feels like propaganda video, the RPG came from where theirs own soldiers were

shooting own armor at 3m+ ...

[ProfTournesol 956]

Kurdish troops are backed by US SF to guide close air support.

 

http://www.rg.ru/2015/11/26/voennie-site-anons.html

According to article, US SF troops arrived in Kobani, Syria. Is it true?

Did they get the permission from Syrian govt or some UN resolution?

 

What i said :

 

 

The US is to deploy a specialised force to Iraq to build pressure on Islamic State militants, US defence secretary Ashton Carter has said.

"In full co-ordination with the government of Iraq, we're deploying a specialised expeditionary targeting force to assist Iraqi and Kurdish Peshmerga forces," Mr Carter said.

He made the remarks to a congressional committee in Washington.

The force would also be able to conduct "unilateral operations" in Syria.

[oxmox 73]

Inside the Battle: Al Nusra-Al Qaeda in Syria

 

 

David Ignatius for The Washington Post described Al Nusra then as the most aggressive and successful arm of the FSA.

In November 2012, they were considered by The Huffington Post to be the best trained and most experienced fighters among the Syrian rebels.

 

On 10 December 2012, the U.S. designated Nusra a foreign terrorist organisation and an alias of Al Qaeda in Iraq.

 

 

 

In 2015, rebel factions in southern Syria vowed to distance themselves from the ‘extremists’ of al-Nusra in April 2015, but were seen cooperating with them in Daraa only days later.

 

During successful Syrian opposition offensives in the northern Government from March until May 2015 (see also March–April offensive and April–June 2015 offensive), al-Nusra effectively coordinated its operations with Free Syrian Army, moderate and conservative Syrian Islamists, and some independent jihadists factions.

 

Russian air strikes reportedly targeted positions held by al-Nusra. Al-Nusra has set a reward for the seizure of Russian soldiers^. Russia sees al-Nusra as a "terrorist organization".

 

(wikipedia )

[vilas 477]

watched video - they all are brainwashed to kill and die for god , horrible that those people even do not think about anything other than murder or die for book written some centuries ago , 

for them only thing that exist in mind is religion and fight to make others follow - total madness

[dontknowhow 33]

watched video - they all are brainwashed to kill and die for god , horrible that those people even do not think about anything other than murder or die for book written some centuries ago , 

for them only thing that exist in mind is religion and fight to make others follow - total madness

christians used to do the same, so there is nothing new

[vilas 477]

600 years ago - makes huge difference,

they were also doing the same 500 years ago , but we made step forward, 

we do not need here another middleages 

[ProfTournesol 956]

600 years ago - makes huge difference,

they were also doing the same 500 years ago , but we made step forward, 

we do not need here another middleages 

 

Indeed.